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N1NJAREB0RN 04/14/17 1:17:04 PM #1:	Let's face it, Final Fantasy is a shell of it's former self and will remain so until it truly goes back to it's turn based roots. With this in mind, and the increasing popularity of the Persona games have we seen a shift in the JRPG powers from Final Fantasy to Persona (or even SMT if you want to make it a bit more broad). What do you guys think? I know I was so excited for XIII and XV and both have disappointed beyond belief, while I'm having a blast playing through both P4G and P5. --- XBL - N1NJA REB0RN <cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted [p:877186253] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Let's face it, Final Fantasy is a shell of it's former self and will remain so until it truly goes back to it's turn based roots. With this in mind, and the increasing popularity of the Persona games have we seen a shift in the JRPG powers from Final Fantasy to Persona (or even SMT if you want to make it a bit more broad). What do you guys think? I know I was so excited for XIII and XV and both have disappointed beyond belief, while I'm having a blast playing through both P4G and P5.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mernardi 04/14/17 1:19:54 PM #2:	I think Persona is becoming more mainstream, but you can't count out Dragon Quest, Tales, or even to a lesser extent, Star Ocean. --- Part of the squad. <cite>Mernardi posted [p:877186422] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>I think Persona is becoming more mainstream, but you can't count out Dragon Quest, Tales, or even to a lesser extent, Star Ocean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/14/17 1:20:19 PM #3:	Final Fantasy has never done something as grand as any of the SMTs. It's just that people are now finally realizing where the true JRPGs are at. SMTs tend to have less of a flamboyant cast though, and I'm thinking that's why people like Persona series so much, even though it's still the worst of all the SMT subseries --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:877186453] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy has never done something as grand as any of the SMTs. It's just that people are now finally realizing where the true JRPGs are at. SMTs tend to have less of a flamboyant cast though, and I'm thinking that's why people like Persona series so much, even though it's still the worst of all the SMT subseries</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leanaunfurled 04/14/17 1:20:57 PM #4:	looks at sales ...No --- Currently Playing: Persona 5 http://i.imgur.com/AuAgV7V.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/UlBw1u1.jpg <cite>Leanaunfurled posted [p:877186497] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>looks at sales ...No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 04/14/17 1:21:15 PM #5:	legendarylemur posted... it's still the worst of all the SMT subseries lol --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:877186512] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>it's still the worst of all the SMT subseries</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/14/17 1:22:25 PM #6:	pauIie posted... legendarylemur posted... it's still the worst of all the SMT subseries lol Lol gotta love the "lol" posts, but I like the Persona series. But to pretend it's as good as something like Strange Journey or DDS is objectively false --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:877186574] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>it's still the worst of all the SMT subseries</quote> lol</quote> Lol gotta love the "lol" posts, but I like the Persona series. But to pretend it's as good as something like Strange Journey or DDS is objectively false</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
N1NJAREB0RN 04/14/17 1:24:07 PM #7:	Leanaunfurled posted... *looks at sales* ...No There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience. Final Fantasy sells on brand recognition alone at this point. We didn't buy Final Fantasy back in the day just because it was the next Final Fantasy, we bought it because we knew we could expect a solid ass turn based RPG with a (usually) excellent story and soundtrack. These days you can't count on FF for any of that. --- XBL - N1NJA REB0RN <cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted [p:877186694] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leanaunfurled posted...</cite> <quote>looks at sales ...No</quote> There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience. Final Fantasy sells on brand recognition alone at this point. We didn't buy Final Fantasy back in the day just because it was the next Final Fantasy, we bought it because we knew we could expect a solid ass turn based RPG with a (usually) excellent story and soundtrack. These days you can't count on FF for any of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 04/14/17 1:25:59 PM #8:	legendarylemur posted... Lol gotta love the "lol" posts gotta love people still throwing the word objective around when giving opinions --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:877186801] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>Lol gotta love the "lol" posts</quote> gotta love people still throwing the word objective around when giving opinions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/14/17 1:30:57 PM #9:	pauIie posted... legendarylemur posted... Lol gotta love the "lol" posts gotta love people still throwing the word objective around when giving opinions I say objective because you can point out every facet of the 2 games and notice that one game does absolutely everything better than the other. Maybe you can argue graphics, but art style wise, many people miss Kaneko for a reason. And there are objectivities to opinions when based on clear numbers and pacing patterns as well as the complexity and the quality of the songs, the art direction, the world, the story, the characters, etc. Only talking in terms of subjectivity makes you think some bad movie like Pixels is better than Citizen Kane. It's moot and flat out idiotic --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:877187092] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>Lol gotta love the "lol" posts</quote> gotta love people still throwing the word objective around when giving opinions</quote> I say objective because you can point out every facet of the 2 games and notice that one game does absolutely everything better than the other. Maybe you can argue graphics, but art style wise, many people miss Kaneko for a reason. And there are objectivities to opinions when based on clear numbers and pacing patterns as well as the complexity and the quality of the songs, the art direction, the world, the story, the characters, etc. Only talking in terms of subjectivity makes you think some bad movie like Pixels is better than Citizen Kane. It's moot and flat out idiotic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leanaunfurled 04/14/17 1:31:53 PM #10:	N1NJAREB0RN posted... Leanaunfurled posted... *looks at sales* ...No There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience. Final Fantasy sells on brand recognition alone at this point. We didn't buy Final Fantasy back in the day just because it was the next Final Fantasy, we bought it because we knew we could expect a solid ass turn based RPG with a (usually) excellent story and soundtrack. These days you can't count on FF for any of that. That's purely subjective, and sales do reflect that to an extent. I'd even flatout disagree on the soundtrack comment. --- Currently Playing: Persona 5 http://i.imgur.com/AuAgV7V.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/UlBw1u1.jpg <cite>Leanaunfurled posted [p:877187155] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Leanaunfurled posted...</cite> <quote>looks at sales ...No</quote> There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience. Final Fantasy sells on brand recognition alone at this point. We didn't buy Final Fantasy back in the day just because it was the next Final Fantasy, we bought it because we knew we could expect a solid ass turn based RPG with a (usually) excellent story and soundtrack. These days you can't count on FF for any of that.</quote> That's purely subjective, and sales do reflect that to an extent. I'd even flatout disagree on the soundtrack comment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 04/14/17 1:34:06 PM #11:	Persona is great, I get to pretend I'm back in high school and dating teenagers!!! --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:877187264] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Persona is great, I get to pretend I'm back in high school and dating teenagers!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
akatsukiba 04/14/17 1:38:47 PM #12:	reminder that P5 pulled a Civil War by announcing a release date in Japan the same month as FFXV and FFXV got the fuck out of the way --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1032-a-pizza-your-heart http://i.imgur.com/ArKpN.gif http://i.imgur.com/aIYgR8V.gifv http://i.imgur.com/brQ4bij.png <cite>akatsukiba posted [p:877187532] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>reminder that P5 pulled a Civil War by announcing a release date in Japan the same month as FFXV and FFXV got the fuck out of the way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 04/14/17 1:43:51 PM #13:	pretty sure FFXV did pretty well? and if you want to play an amazing modren FF game you still got FFXIV Stormblood is coming out in 2 months be excited --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:877187797] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>pretty sure FFXV did pretty well? and if you want to play an amazing modren FF game you still got FFXIV Stormblood is coming out in 2 months be excited</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/14/17 1:44:42 PM #14:	N1NJAREB0RN posted... There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience Then FF was never the leader. There's always been another jrpg better for each generation. Final Fantasy is vanilla ice cream. Almost everyone likes vanilla, some vanillas taste better than others, but it's still no strawberry. And while strawberry is my favorite you might have something different. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877187852] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted...</cite> <quote> There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience</quote> Then FF was never the leader. There's always been another jrpg better for each generation. Final Fantasy is vanilla ice cream. Almost everyone likes vanilla, some vanillas taste better than others, but it's still no strawberry. And while strawberry is my favorite you might have something different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/14/17 1:45:14 PM #15:	Leanaunfurled posted... N1NJAREB0RN posted... Leanaunfurled posted... *looks at sales* ...No There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience. Final Fantasy sells on brand recognition alone at this point. We didn't buy Final Fantasy back in the day just because it was the next Final Fantasy, we bought it because we knew we could expect a solid ass turn based RPG with a (usually) excellent story and soundtrack. These days you can't count on FF for any of that. That's purely subjective, and sales do reflect that to an extent. I'd even flatout disagree on the soundtrack comment. I think a lot of FF soundtracks is great, but there's something that people need to realize about Nobuo Uematsu. He's actually a mid tier composer in a country of great modern composers even just within the realm of video game music. He's super inconsistent, and a lot of his songs follow the same pattern, that you can always tell when he's baiting for a popular track. His bad songs are cringing bad, and he has trouble making music for things that's not steampunk or a flat grassy land --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:877187881] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leanaunfurled posted...</cite> <quote><cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Leanaunfurled posted...</cite> <quote>looks at sales ...No</quote> There's your problem right there. I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about the experience. Final Fantasy sells on brand recognition alone at this point. We didn't buy Final Fantasy back in the day just because it was the next Final Fantasy, we bought it because we knew we could expect a solid ass turn based RPG with a (usually) excellent story and soundtrack. These days you can't count on FF for any of that.</quote> That's purely subjective, and sales do reflect that to an extent. I'd even flatout disagree on the soundtrack comment.</quote> I think a lot of FF soundtracks is great, but there's something that people need to realize about Nobuo Uematsu. He's actually a mid tier composer in a country of great modern composers even just within the realm of video game music. He's super inconsistent, and a lot of his songs follow the same pattern, that you can always tell when he's baiting for a popular track. His bad songs are cringing bad, and he has trouble making music for things that's not steampunk or a flat grassy land</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leanaunfurled 04/14/17 1:49:12 PM #16:	legendarylemur posted... I think a lot of FF soundtracks is great, but there's something that people need to realize about Nobuo Uematsu. He's actually a mid tier composer in a country of great modern composers even just within the realm of video game music. He's super inconsistent, and a lot of his songs follow the same pattern, that you can always tell when he's baiting for a popular track. His bad songs are cringing bad, and he has trouble making music for things that's not steampunk or a flat grassy land I can't say much on the actual composer. I've loved his work in mainline FF games, but any time I hear his work outside of FF, I'm not much of a fan. Two that come to mind are Fantasy Life and Hometown Story. Love Fantasy Life, but both of those soundtracks were pretty mediocre. Hardcore mediocre. But because I really do love listening to good video game music, can you list your favorites? --- Currently Playing: Persona 5 http://i.imgur.com/AuAgV7V.jpg, http://i.imgur.com/UlBw1u1.jpg <cite>Leanaunfurled posted [p:877188119] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>I think a lot of FF soundtracks is great, but there's something that people need to realize about Nobuo Uematsu. He's actually a mid tier composer in a country of great modern composers even just within the realm of video game music. He's super inconsistent, and a lot of his songs follow the same pattern, that you can always tell when he's baiting for a popular track. His bad songs are cringing bad, and he has trouble making music for things that's not steampunk or a flat grassy land</quote> I can't say much on the actual composer. I've loved his work in mainline FF games, but any time I hear his work outside of FF, I'm not much of a fan. Two that come to mind are Fantasy Life and Hometown Story. Love Fantasy Life, but both of those soundtracks were pretty mediocre. Hardcore mediocre. But because I really do love listening to good video game music, can you list your favorites?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
N1NJAREB0RN 04/14/17 2:30:58 PM #17:	So we are agreed then? Persona has replaced Final Fantasy? --- XBL - N1NJA REB0RN <cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted [p:877190556] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>So we are agreed then? Persona has replaced Final Fantasy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 04/14/17 2:38:27 PM #18:	darkphoenix181 posted... FFXIV Nobody plays that shit. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:877190998] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>FFXIV</quote> Nobody plays that shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 2:40:49 PM #19:	N1NJAREB0RN posted... So we are agreed then? Persona has replaced Final Fantasy? As the go-to game for the weeaboo crowd, sure. For the mass market, not even close. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877191163] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted...</cite> <quote>So we are agreed then? Persona has replaced Final Fantasy?</quote> As the go-to game for the weeaboo crowd, sure. For the mass market, not even close.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FightingGames 04/14/17 2:45:15 PM #21:	Yes and rightfully so <cite>FightingGames posted [p:877191467] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Yes and rightfully so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
N1NJAREB0RN 04/14/17 2:48:10 PM #22:	You guys are comparing Persona to Final Fantasy of today. That's not what I mean. I'm talking about Final Fantasy back in the day, AKA the SNES or PS1 era. The quality games we got back then from the franchise are what I'm comparing Persona to. Final Fantasy these days are completely different and as said, sell on name alone. Not because it is THE go to franchise for turned based story driven RPGs like it used to be. --- XBL - N1NJA REB0RN <cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted [p:877191644] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>You guys are comparing Persona to Final Fantasy of today. That's not what I mean. I'm talking about Final Fantasy back in the day, AKA the SNES or PS1 era. The quality games we got back then from the franchise are what I'm comparing Persona to. Final Fantasy these days are completely different and as said, sell on name alone. Not because it is THE go to franchise for turned based story driven RPGs like it used to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 04/14/17 2:50:18 PM #23:	BLAKUboy posted... darkphoenix181 posted... FFXIV Nobody plays that shit. they should you can be a dragoon, dark knight, white mage, black mage like if Final Fantasy is what you want, FFXIV is where it is at then you got content designed as throwback like Crystal Tower, Gold Saucer and Blitzball coming in stormblood and remastered soundtrack from old games --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:877191800] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>FFXIV</quote> Nobody plays that shit.</quote> they should you can be a dragoon, dark knight, white mage, black mage like if Final Fantasy is what you want, FFXIV is where it is at then you got content designed as throwback like Crystal Tower, Gold Saucer and Blitzball coming in stormblood and remastered soundtrack from old games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 04/14/17 2:51:14 PM #24:	The Admiral posted... N1NJAREB0RN posted... So we are agreed then? Persona has replaced Final Fantasy? As the go-to game for the weeaboo crowd, sure. For the mass market, not even close. Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers. We get to pretend we're back in high school!!! And the adults are pathetic pieces of shit! --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:877191869] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted...</cite> <quote>So we are agreed then? Persona has replaced Final Fantasy?</quote> As the go-to game for the weeaboo crowd, sure. For the mass market, not even close.</quote> Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers. We get to pretend we're back in high school!!! And the adults are pathetic pieces of shit!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/14/17 4:31:29 PM #25:	REMercsChamp posted... Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers. no game that involves 1.) dating sim 2.) 80+ hours of commitment 3.) a multi hour tutorial has appeal to all gamers. And what makes Persona 5 great, to those of us that love it, is specifically that it's not trying to appeal to all gamers. It's trying to appeal to what persona fans want. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877197736] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote> Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers.</quote> no game that involves 1.) dating sim 2.) 80+ hours of commitment 3.) a multi hour tutorial has appeal to all gamers. And what makes Persona 5 great, to those of us that love it, is specifically that it's not trying to appeal to all gamers. It's trying to appeal to what persona fans want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 04/14/17 4:32:17 PM #26:	I Like Toast posted... REMercsChamp posted... Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers. no game that involves 1.) dating sim 2.) 80+ hours of commitment 3.) a multi hour tutorial has appeal to all gamers. And what makes Persona 5 great, to those of us that love it, is specifically that it's not trying to appeal to all gamers. It's trying to appeal to what persona fans want. But I get to be back in high school again and go on wacky adventures with my friends!!!! And my dad told me to get a job! He's just a persona 5 rapist! --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:877197790] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote> Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers.</quote> no game that involves 1.) dating sim 2.) 80+ hours of commitment 3.) a multi hour tutorial has appeal to all gamers. And what makes Persona 5 great, to those of us that love it, is specifically that it's not trying to appeal to all gamers. It's trying to appeal to what persona fans want.</quote> But I get to be back in high school again and go on wacky adventures with my friends!!!! And my dad told me to get a job! He's just a persona 5 rapist!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/14/17 4:32:48 PM #27:	oh you're trolling, my bad. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877197818] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>oh you're trolling, my bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 04/14/17 4:37:21 PM #28:	legendarylemur posted... And there are objectivities to opinions when based on clear numbers and pacing patterns as well as the complexity and the quality of the songs, the art direction, the world, the story, the characters, etc. none of these have objective definitions for their entertainment value or enjoyment and that's objectively true --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? http://www.last.fm/user/followthegospel <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:877198104] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>And there are objectivities to opinions when based on clear numbers and pacing patterns as well as the complexity and the quality of the songs, the art direction, the world, the story, the characters, etc.</quote> none of these have objective definitions for their entertainment value or enjoyment and that's objectively true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 04/15/17 10:06:57 AM #29:	I love Persona but lolno. Final Fantasy is still way more popular than Persona here. --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:877238774] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>I love Persona but lolno. Final Fantasy is still way more popular than Persona here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
N1NJAREB0RN 04/15/17 11:01:48 AM #30:	NeonOctopus posted... I love Persona but lolno. Final Fantasy is still way more popular than Persona here. Oh good, another user who didn't bother to read the topic before replying. --- XBL - N1NJA REB0RN <cite>N1NJAREB0RN posted [p:877240926] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>I love Persona but lolno. Final Fantasy is still way more popular than Persona here.</quote> Oh good, another user who didn't bother to read the topic before replying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 04/15/17 11:12:02 AM #31:	Sucks brah --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:877241371] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Sucks brah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green butter 04/15/17 11:28:19 AM #32:	I Like Toast posted... REMercsChamp posted... Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers. no game that involves 1.) dating sim 2.) 80+ hours of commitment 3.) a multi hour tutorial has appeal to all gamers. And what makes Persona 5 great, to those of us that love it, is specifically that it's not trying to appeal to all gamers. It's trying to appeal to what persona fans want. yea for real, im having fun with persona 5 but even if it has had nice sales this is still definitely a niche game that will only appeal to certain people. i dont even know how id explain this game to someone who has never heard of the series before, because it's so fucking esoteric. only reason i bought persona 5 was because it was suggested to me by Leana, Neon, & drunkmuggle and I think those 3 have good taste in games --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>green butter posted [p:877242083] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote> Persona 5 has appeal to all gamers.</quote> no game that involves 1.) dating sim 2.) 80+ hours of commitment 3.) a multi hour tutorial has appeal to all gamers. And what makes Persona 5 great, to those of us that love it, is specifically that it's not trying to appeal to all gamers. It's trying to appeal to what persona fans want.</quote> yea for real, im having fun with persona 5 but even if it has had nice sales this is still definitely a niche game that will only appeal to certain people. i dont even know how id explain this game to someone who has never heard of the series before, because it's so fucking esoteric. only reason i bought persona 5 was because it was suggested to me by Leana, Neon, & drunkmuggle and I think those 3 have good taste in games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 04/15/17 11:34:21 AM #34:	Persona 5 isnt niche, what are people talking about --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877242333] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 isnt niche, what are people talking about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scarecrow1711 04/15/17 12:32:48 PM #35:	Only time will tell. XV was enjoyable but it was also a mess on so many levels while Persona 5 is very good just like the old FInal Fantasy games were. If this trend continues, we could see a shift but I don't want to see FInal Fantasy die. --- http://i.imgur.com/p07mTrH.gif http://i.imgur.com/FNVJox4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gVxXWpD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hYuMvSn.jpg <cite>Scarecrow1711 posted [p:877245063] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Only time will tell. XV was enjoyable but it was also a mess on so many levels while Persona 5 is very good just like the old FInal Fantasy games were. If this trend continues, we could see a shift but I don't want to see FInal Fantasy die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/15/17 1:25:58 PM #36:	Rika_Furude posted... Persona 5 isnt niche P5 has sold less than Horizon zero dawn. A new ip on one less console. Your life can't be this sheltered to think Persona isn't a niche game. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877247759] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 isnt niche</quote> P5 has sold less than Horizon zero dawn. A new ip on one less console. Your life can't be this sheltered to think Persona isn't a niche game. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 04/15/17 1:32:25 PM #37:	Yeah, I don't like ARPG FF. FF XII probably had the best combat system in the entire series. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:877248083] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I don't like ARPG FF. FF XII probably had the best combat system in the entire series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 04/15/17 3:30:47 PM #38:	I Like Toast posted... Rika_Furude posted... Persona 5 isnt niche P5 has sold less than Horizon zero dawn. A new ip on one less console. Your life can't be this sheltered to think Persona isn't a niche game. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course. P5 is currently the best selling game in the UK and Australia <cite>FightingGames posted [p:877254241] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 isnt niche</quote> P5 has sold less than Horizon zero dawn. A new ip on one less console. Your life can't be this sheltered to think Persona isn't a niche game. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course.</quote> P5 is currently the best selling game in the UK and Australia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/15/17 5:33:52 PM #39:	And? What else is it competing with. Mass effect that's been out for several weeks. Niche =/= unpopular. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877260433] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>And? What else is it competing with. Mass effect that's been out for several weeks. Niche =/= unpopular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 04/15/17 8:17:26 PM #41:	I Like Toast posted... Rika_Furude posted... Persona 5 isnt niche P5 has sold less than Horizon zero dawn. A new ip on one less console. Your life can't be this sheltered to think Persona isn't a niche game. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course. A niche game is something like The World Ends With You. Persona 5 is nowhere close to niche. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877269439] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 isnt niche</quote> P5 has sold less than Horizon zero dawn. A new ip on one less console. Your life can't be this sheltered to think Persona isn't a niche game. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course.</quote> A niche game is something like The World Ends With You. Persona 5 is nowhere close to niche.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 04/15/17 8:23:00 PM #42:	final fantasy hasn't been good in almost 2 decades --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:877269725] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>final fantasy hasn't been good in almost 2 decades</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/15/17 8:39:13 PM #43:	Delirious_Beard posted... final fantasy hasn't been good in almost 2 decades FFXV was good. Rika_Furude posted... Persona 5 is nowhere close to niche. I Like Toast posted... . but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877270642] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>final fantasy hasn't been good in almost 2 decades</quote> FFXV was good. <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 is nowhere close to niche. </quote> <cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 04/15/17 8:39:48 PM #44:	Mernardi posted... I think Persona is becoming more mainstream, but you can't count out Dragon Quest, Tales, or even to a lesser extent, Star Ocean. I wouldn't put persona below star ocean in popularity tbqh --- Pomf! http://i.imgur.com/SO63sDJ.jpg <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:877270677] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mernardi posted...</cite> <quote>I think Persona is becoming more mainstream, but you can't count out Dragon Quest, Tales, or even to a lesser extent, Star Ocean.</quote> I wouldn't put persona below star ocean in popularity tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/15/17 8:41:36 PM #45:	I Like Toast posted... Delirious_Beard posted... final fantasy hasn't been good in almost 2 decades FFXV was good. Rika_Furude posted... Persona 5 is nowhere close to niche. I Like Toast posted... . but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course. I see you are incapable of constructing a viable counterargument and opt to jump straight to ad hominem. But please, keep telling youreself that youre right. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877270796] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>final fantasy hasn't been good in almost 2 decades</quote> FFXV was good. <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Persona 5 is nowhere close to niche. </quote> <cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>. but you are rika and having your head up your own ass is par for the course.</quote></quote> I see you are incapable of constructing a viable counterargument and opt to jump straight to ad hominem. But please, keep telling youreself that youre right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/15/17 8:43:59 PM #46:	considering you didn't counter the argument already presented, why would i feed a troll whose head is firmly lodged up his own ass? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877270933] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>considering you didn't counter the argument already presented, why would i feed a troll whose head is firmly lodged up his own ass?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/15/17 8:47:10 PM #47:	I Like Toast posted... considering you didn't counter the argument already presented, why would i feed a troll whose head is firmly lodged up his own ass? Ad hominems arent arguments you clown. Youre a joke lmao --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877271128] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>considering you didn't counter the argument already presented, why would i feed a troll whose head is firmly lodged up his own ass?</quote> Ad hominems arent arguments you clown. Youre a joke lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 04/15/17 8:49:01 PM #48:	You have such a nice fanbase rika. --- https://i.imgtc.com/KCJE1zw.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:877271256] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>You have such a nice fanbase rika.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 04/15/17 8:49:35 PM #49:	"don't use ad hominems, now watch me use ad hominems!...did you forget that I still haven't addressed your original point? fuck, MORE AD HOMINEMS!!!" ~ some troll whose head is firmly lodged up his ass. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:877271293] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote>"don't use ad hominems, now watch me use ad hominems!...did you forget that I still haven't addressed your original point? fuck, MORE AD HOMINEMS!!!" ~ some troll whose head is firmly lodged up his ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/15/17 8:53:11 PM #50:	Cookie Bag posted... You have such a nice fanbase rika. I wonder what their first speech in schools gonna be like "And you suck teacher, thats why you should give me an a+. What do you mean insulting you doesnt count as a debate?" --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877271494] in Has Person... [t:75237133]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote>You have such a nice fanbase rika.</quote> I wonder what their first speech in schools gonna be like "And you suck teacher, thats why you should give me an a+. What do you mean insulting you doesnt count as a debate?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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