Current Events > Who here actually thinks dropping bombs on the Daesh or terrorists will work?

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I mean, you can just bomb them away right?
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It will eventually work if we drop enough/big enough bombs.
It worked on Japan.
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Let's wait and see what the MOAB did to those tunnels. Then we can have a meaningful discussion.
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meestermj posted...

It will eventually work if we drop enough/big enough bombs.
It worked on Japan.

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.
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SpiritSephiroth posted...

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.

But it worked.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

meestermj posted...

It will eventually work if we drop enough/big enough bombs.
It worked on Japan.

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

Your topic didn't ask if it was morally right, just if it would work.

Vertania posted...

SpiritSephiroth posted...

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.

But it worked.

Exactly.
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I dont think you understand how terrorist cells/terrorism works.
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meestermj posted...

SpiritSephiroth posted...

meestermj posted...

It will eventually work if we drop enough/big enough bombs.
It worked on Japan.

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

Your topic didn't ask if it was morally right, just if it would work.

Vertania posted...

SpiritSephiroth posted...

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.

But it worked.

Exactly.

Fair enough. Although terrorism isn't confined to one country. With Japan it was a conventional war. This isn't.

So, do you guys believe in nuking multiple cities in multiple countries?
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Nukes are wrong. But strategically placed precision strikes are morally acceptable.
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meestermj posted...

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

We'll put the fear of death into those suicide bombers yet.
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Funkdamental posted...

meestermj posted...

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

We'll put the fear of death into those suicide bombers yet.

I think you misunderstand the motivation behind suicide bombings.
The goal is to take down heretics/enemies by sacrificing yourself. Thus you are rewarded.
However being killed and not taking the enemy with you brings no reward.

There's a big fuckin difference.
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SpiritSephiroth posted...

So, do you guys believe in nuking multiple cities in multiple countries?

If it was virtually guaranteed to end future attacks, like it did in Japan, I probably would.

That's not the case though. Bombing them can weaken their supplies, but they'll just keep on recruiting.

meestermj posted...

Funkdamental posted...

meestermj posted...

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

We'll put the fear of death into those suicide bombers yet.

I think you misunderstand the motivation behind suicide bombings.
The goal is to take down heretics/enemies by sacrificing yourself. Thus you are rewarded.
However being killed and not taking the enemy with you brings no reward.

There's a big fuckin difference.

I think you're reading more of a difference into it than there actually is. Hamas leaders killed by Israeli rockets or bombs are traditionally glorified as "martyrs" by the movement, because the important thing is to fall as a fighter in the cause of jihad but not necessarily always in the act of battle. It's evident that for some, just being part of the movement makes dying seem worth it.
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Funkdamental posted...

meestermj posted...

Funkdamental posted...

meestermj posted...

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

We'll put the fear of death into those suicide bombers yet.

I think you misunderstand the motivation behind suicide bombings.
The goal is to take down heretics/enemies by sacrificing yourself. Thus you are rewarded.
However being killed and not taking the enemy with you brings no reward.

There's a big fuckin difference.

I think you're reading more of a difference into it than there actually is. Hamas leaders killed by Israeli rockets or bombs are traditionally glorified as "martyrs" by the movement, because the important thing is to fall as a fighter in the cause of jihad but not necessarily always in the act of battle.

i guess we better completely ignore ISIS and let them build up their arms and infrastructure, then
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meingott posted...

Funkdamental posted...

meestermj posted...

Funkdamental posted...

meestermj posted...

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

We'll put the fear of death into those suicide bombers yet.

I think you misunderstand the motivation behind suicide bombings.
The goal is to take down heretics/enemies by sacrificing yourself. Thus you are rewarded.
However being killed and not taking the enemy with you brings no reward.

There's a big fuckin difference.

I think you're reading more of a difference into it than there actually is. Hamas leaders killed by Israeli rockets or bombs are traditionally glorified as "martyrs" by the movement, because the important thing is to fall as a fighter in the cause of jihad but not necessarily always in the act of battle.

i guess we better completely ignore ISIS and let them build up their arms and infrastructure, then

That's low-IQ sarcasm. I'm saying don't rely on terror alone to drive the whole organization into total defeat. Obviously, degrading their military capacity to continue fighting by disintegrating them with high explosives has an important role to play.
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Funkdamental posted...

That's low-IQ sarcasm. I'm saying don't rely on terror alone to drive the whole organization into total defeat. Obviously, degrading their military capacity to continue fighting by disintegrating them with high explosives has an important role to play.

pretty sure a MOAB on top of one of their command posts would do the trick
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>Doesn't think literally killing them will work.
>Calls them Daesh instead of ISIS/ISIL
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Bombing and war stopped the Nazis.

You don't really see them anymore, except for the fact libs call everyone a Nazi.
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Japan was a nation with a clear government that could tell it's people to stand down. ISIS is a terrorist group, made up of loosely associated people, who all think it's ok to die for God. and that the war never ends until the world ends, or everyone on earth converts to Islam.

don't get me wrong, it's awesome that a bunch of terrorists just got nuked. but it won't have the same effect. we have to just kill them all. they will never surrender. if there were any survivors, they will keep fighting

SpiritSephiroth posted...

meestermj posted...

It will eventually work if we drop enough/big enough bombs.
It worked on Japan.

That included nuking whole cities including innocents.

We warned them several times before we dropped those bombs.
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meestermj posted...

And? We dropped a big bomb and they backed down.

lol ignorant americans still think its the bombs
anything to justify their war crimes
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