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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 1:25:11 PM
#103:


Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...

Ah I misread the name but the point stands.


there is no point, whatsoever. that is the nature of ad hominem argument. you might as well have yelled "look behind you!" and run off.

i suggest you do that.

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single fuck. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.



So you admit you got lucky and then decide that is a valid argument as to why others should think like you? My mother died when I was 3 months old, my father has always been locked up, and when my grandma was in her 40s (and I was like 6) she had congestive heart failure and went on disability while single-handedly raising me. Do you honestly think that we started with the same proverbial poker hand? Not using this as an excuse as it's not even the topic at hand but I am genuinely curious if you believe this.
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gp1829
04/13/17 1:25:31 PM
#104:


Onetrueking posted...
Antifar posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...

Ah I misread the name but the point stands.


there is no point, whatsoever. that is the nature of ad hominem argument. you might as well have yelled "look behind you!" and run off.

i suggest you do that.

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single fuck. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.

You gonna return your public education?

It would be private education. Lol going to a public school especially in America. That's exactly how we got trump vs Hilary for president.


Your parents should demand a refund.
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:28:00 PM
#105:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...

Ah I misread the name but the point stands.


there is no point, whatsoever. that is the nature of ad hominem argument. you might as well have yelled "look behind you!" and run off.

i suggest you do that.

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single fuck. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.



So you admit you got lucky and then decide that is a valid argument as to why others should think like you?

Luck is a part of life. Course again you are the criminal maybe you should tell everyone how to think.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/13/17 1:34:35 PM
#106:


Good. I don't want any of my HARD-EARNED MONEY that I inherited from my parents to go to moochers.
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Darkman124
04/13/17 1:37:52 PM
#107:


Onetrueking posted...

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single f***. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.


you seem quite incapable of forming an argument in this thread. your opposition to welfare seems to stem from a basic lack of empathy for those suffering from poverty.

that is sad. fortunately, we are a representative democracy and your view will eventually be drowned out by more rational voices, your opinions ignored.

i'm sure you will be very angry then, but as you said yourself: luck is a part of life.
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:42:18 PM
#108:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...

Ah I misread the name but the point stands.


there is no point, whatsoever. that is the nature of ad hominem argument. you might as well have yelled "look behind you!" and run off.

i suggest you do that.

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single fuck. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.



So you admit you got lucky and then decide that is a valid argument as to why others should think like you? My mother died when I was 3 months old, my father has always been locked up, and when my grandma was in her 40s (and I was like 6) she had congestive heart failure and went on disability while single-handedly raising me. Do you honestly think that we started with the same proverbial poker hand? Not using this as an excuse as it's not even the topic at hand but I am genuinely curious if you believe this.

. Yes it's tragic but that is life. Some hands are better then others. I have empathy to a certain point but for many on this site you've been given a second chance and most people piss it away.

People in general are just fuck ups when you get down to it. Very hard to feel bad for them.
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DifferentialEquation
04/13/17 1:42:32 PM
#109:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Good. I don't want any of my HARD-EARNED MONEY that I inherited from my parents to go to moochers.


It doesn't matter if he earned the money or not. It's still his. I didn't earn my functioning kidneys and other organs, I was born with them. But you may as well support removing some of them from me by force and giving them to people who need organ transplants, because it's no different from the other entitlement programs you support.
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:44:43 PM
#110:


Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single f***. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.


you seem quite incapable of forming an argument in this thread. your opposition to welfare seems to stem from a basic lack of empathy for those suffering from poverty.

that is sad. fortunately, we are a representative democracy and your view will eventually be drowned out by more rational voices, your opinions ignored.

i'm sure you will be very angry then, but as you said yourself: luck is a part of life.

I don't get upset life is to short for little things like getting mad over people fighting for welfare.

If they give it to you cool and if not still cool. You guys having it doesn't affect me.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/13/17 1:46:31 PM
#111:


DifferentialEquation posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Good. I don't want any of my HARD-EARNED MONEY that I inherited from my parents to go to moochers.


It doesn't matter if he earned the money or not. It's still his. I didn't earn my functioning kidneys and other organs, I was born with them. But you may as well support removing some of them from me by force and giving them to people who need organ transplants, because it's no different from the other entitlement programs you support.


Yes, because paying taxes is exactly like having organs removed from your body by force.
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Darkman124
04/13/17 1:46:36 PM
#112:


Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.
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3rd_Best_Master
04/13/17 1:48:57 PM
#113:


Not many people will openly admit to the silver spoon in their mouth while at the same time denigrating the poor for not having the same opportunities and luck that they have. At least you're honest about your shitty opinions.
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:49:04 PM
#114:


Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the shitty prison system we have.
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3rd_Best_Master
04/13/17 1:51:04 PM
#115:


Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 1:51:11 PM
#116:


Onetrueking posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...

Ah I misread the name but the point stands.


there is no point, whatsoever. that is the nature of ad hominem argument. you might as well have yelled "look behind you!" and run off.

i suggest you do that.

The point is I disagree with welfare. You talk about basic income but I honestly don't give a single fuck. I drew the golden ticket into a very wealthy family. You should hold some standard of pride before asking the government for money.



So you admit you got lucky and then decide that is a valid argument as to why others should think like you? My mother died when I was 3 months old, my father has always been locked up, and when my grandma was in her 40s (and I was like 6) she had congestive heart failure and went on disability while single-handedly raising me. Do you honestly think that we started with the same proverbial poker hand? Not using this as an excuse as it's not even the topic at hand but I am genuinely curious if you believe this.

. Yes it's tragic but that is life. Some hands are better then others. I have empathy to a certain point but for many on this site you've been given a second chance and most people piss it away.

People in general are just fuck ups when you get down to it. Very hard to feel bad for them.



If you recognize a difference then why not acknowledge that your opinion is formed from a basic lack of understanding which can be inferred from your numerous statements about being lucky? Something that had nothing much to do with your overall argument but for some reason you felt necessary to add in there.
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Darkman124
04/13/17 1:51:17 PM
#117:


Onetrueking posted...

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.


i find it really amusing that you keep lumping me in with the people who would benefit from welfare.
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:52:17 PM
#118:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.
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3rd_Best_Master
04/13/17 1:53:00 PM
#119:


Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.

Are you opposed to those with mental health issues receiving their aid via welfare?
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 1:53:13 PM
#120:


Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.



How good do you think the mental health would be of people that were starving and went to a great school? Even with access to good mental health services?
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gp1829
04/13/17 1:54:09 PM
#121:


Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the shitty prison system we have.


I'm mostly a lurker but Darkman is definately not on welfare and I am sure is worth more than you.
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DifferentialEquation
04/13/17 1:54:40 PM
#122:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Good. I don't want any of my HARD-EARNED MONEY that I inherited from my parents to go to moochers.


It doesn't matter if he earned the money or not. It's still his. I didn't earn my functioning kidneys and other organs, I was born with them. But you may as well support removing some of them from me by force and giving them to people who need organ transplants, because it's no different from the other entitlement programs you support.


Yes, because paying taxes is exactly like having organs removed from your body by force.


It pretty much is. If Bernie had become president and had his socialist vision realized, we would have ultimately started hearing things like "nobody needs two kidneys".
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:54:54 PM
#123:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.

Are you opposed to those with mental health issues receiving their aid via welfare?

I would be fine with someone who has a been diagnosed with a mental health issue getting welfare.
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Balrog0
04/13/17 1:55:20 PM
#124:


not welfare narrowly defined at least

there are plenty of ways that more affluent americans receive benefits from the government, directly and indirectly
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 1:56:02 PM
#125:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.



How good do you think the mental health would be of people that were starving and went to a great school? Even with access to good mental health services?

We have systems in place to feed children who have no money at schools.
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3rd_Best_Master
04/13/17 1:56:03 PM
#126:


Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.

Are you opposed to those with mental health issues receiving their aid via welfare?

I would be fine with someone who has a been diagnosed with a mental health issue getting welfare.

Are you opposed to welfare being given to the people that have to take care of the people with mental health issues?
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 2:01:02 PM
#127:


It depends on the situation and on the people who are taking care of someone who has mental health problems.

You shouldn't be allowed to drink or have cigarettes while on welfare stuff of that nature.

I guess I'm open to it when they have more rules.
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Onetrueking
04/13/17 2:02:42 PM
#128:


gp1829 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the shitty prison system we have.


I'm mostly a lurker but Darkman is definately not on welfare and I am sure is worth more than you.

I'd be ok with this. I wish everyone the best of luck in life. In a perfect world we wouldn't even have to discuss this topic.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 2:40:51 PM
#129:


Onetrueking posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Onetrueking posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Onetrueking posted...
You guys having it doesn't affect me.


then perhaps you should not oppose it, since the people seeking it want it.

No because that's helping you. I don't want to do that. While it doesn't affect me I'd rather my taxes not go to you people along with many other things like the s***ty prison system we have.

So what would you rather your taxes go to?

Mental health and better school systems are my top 2.



How good do you think the mental health would be of people that were starving and went to a great school? Even with access to good mental health services?

We have systems in place to feed children who have no money at schools.



You mean that program that Trump is talking about cutting when it already doesn't extend to enough that need it?
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