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mario2000
04/11/17 10:53:43 PM
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i get red cuz red=rightwing but why pill

is it cuz you have to be on pills (drugs) to believe in that???
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ManSpread
04/11/17 10:54:17 PM
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Meadzy
04/11/17 10:54:27 PM
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something about the matrix probably
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Laserion
04/11/17 10:56:16 PM
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This is a reference to the movie The Matrix:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
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organicbamf
04/11/17 10:56:38 PM
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mario2k how is your account so old and people still don't get it
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mario2000
04/11/17 10:57:15 PM
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imagine getting your political beliefs from fantasy movies
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Sativa_Rose
04/11/17 10:58:35 PM
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I think the pills they try to slip into women's drinks are usually red colored.
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Dragonblade01
04/11/17 10:58:36 PM
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mario2000 posted...
imagine getting your political beliefs from fantasy movies

The term comes from the movie, not the beliefs.
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Maki
04/11/17 11:02:40 PM
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mario2000
04/11/17 11:05:19 PM
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Maki posted...
http://imgur.com/a/4YTw8

please don't make fun of my personal tragedies
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ChromaticAngel
04/11/17 11:26:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...
imagine getting your political beliefs from fantasy movies

imagine getting your MGTOW misogynist political beliefs from a fantasy movie made by two transwomen.
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Butterfiles
04/11/17 11:27:02 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
MGTOW

The fuck does this mean? And do I want to know?
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Gafemage
04/12/17 1:05:10 AM
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@Butterfiles posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MGTOW

The fuck does this mean? And do I want to know?


Men Going Their Own Way. Basically the most extreme form of Men's Rights Activism.
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MARKINGRAM22
04/12/17 1:09:07 AM
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Gafemage posted...
@Butterfiles posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MGTOW

The fuck does this mean? And do I want to know?


Men Going Their Own Way. Basically the most extreme form of Men's Rights Activism.


I've heard from both. They really don't share that much. Honestly MRAs have a lot in common with feminists and want to break down gender roles. Red pill guys just are sick of paying for dinner lol. I think on the surface there are some good points, but they get dumb about it. A lot of them kinda use my favorite comic Patrice O'Neal, but bastardized what he said.
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Zeeak4444
04/12/17 1:11:19 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
mario2000 posted...
imagine getting your political beliefs from fantasy movies

imagine getting your MGTOW misogynist political beliefs from a fantasy movie made by two transwomen.


Did you just use transgender...ism(?) as an insult? I don't think the Wichalsky brothers or whatever are both really transwomen, are they?
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Tmaster148
04/12/17 1:11:31 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Gafemage posted...
@Butterfiles posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MGTOW

The fuck does this mean? And do I want to know?


Men Going Their Own Way. Basically the most extreme form of Men's Rights Activism.


I've heard from both. They really don't share that much. Honestly MRAs have a lot in common with feminists and want to break down gender roles. Red pill guys just are sick of paying for dinner lol. I think on the surface there are some good points, but they get dumb about it. A lot of them kinda use my favorite comic Patrice O'Neal, but bastardized what he said.


Parts of the MRA has been taken over by the repillers. At least, from what I've noticed from the few posts that hit r/all from r/mensrights.
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Darmik
04/12/17 1:12:42 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Red pill guys just are sick of paying for dinner lol.


Uhh no. It goes quite a bit beyond that lol
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MARKINGRAM22
04/12/17 1:16:33 AM
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Darmik posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Red pill guys just are sick of paying for dinner lol.


Uhh no. It goes quite a bit beyond that lol


I mean I'm typing on my phone, so yeah. They still are goofy about some things when the base message is good. Don't get run over, don't accept one sided equality, women being physical isn't something people should just accept...
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Darmik
04/12/17 1:20:48 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
I mean I'm typing on my phone, so yeah. They still are goofy about some things when the base message is good. Don't get run over, don't accept one sided equality, women being physical isn't something people should just accept...


Because there's truth in the red pill. Because men are realizing that the sexual marketplace has shifted away from what we've been taught. Men who grew up over thirty years ago are discovering the world has changed. Men who are still growing up- from the 80s, 90s, and even the last decade, they're starting to realize that what their parents taught them, what television and chick flicks taught them, what church and sunday school taught them... it's all wrong.

Our culture has become a feminist culture. A president cannot be elected today without succumbing to the feminist narrative and paying them tribute. How many times has Obama given credit for his manhood to his wife? How many times has the debate hinged on women's pay gap - which is a myth that gets lip service because if you don't you're a misogynist!

I'm not here to parade the concepts of Men's Rights- nor am I here to discuss self-improvement tips that /r/seduction now purports are to make you a better man, not get laid more often.

I am here to say, for better or for worse, the frame around public discourse is a feminist frame, and we've lost our identity because of it.

But this isn't the end of the world. The world is changing, but men are still part of it. We just need to make sure we're changing with it.

It's too easy to blame feminism for our troubles.

Men, our happiness is our responsibility. Culture has always shifted, it's dynamic and fluid. It has never and will never stay still.

Feminism was inevitable. Equal rights are something I strongly am in support of. For men and women.

Women have the right to pursue happiness. Nobody should tell them otherwise. Maximizing happiness is the goal of every living creature on this planet.

Men, we need to recognize that since women are rightfully seeking out happiness, evolutionary psychology is more relevant today than ever in the past century. (and possibly longer). We no longer run the show. And I, for one, don't disagree that marriage had to change if we were to see equal rights.

But now it's time to get serious and realize that our strategy needs to change. Feminism is a sexual strategy. It puts women into the best position they can find, to select mates, to determine when they want to switch mates, to locate the best dna possible, and to garner the most resources they can individually achieve.

The Red Pill is men's sexual strategy. Reality is happening, and we need to make sure that we adjust our strategy accordingly.

Welcome to the red pill. It's a difficult pill to swallow, understanding that everything you were taught, everything you were lead to believe is a lie. But once you learn it, internalize it, and start living your new life, it gets better.


No. It's treating women as an antagonist to beat so you can have sex with them.
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ChromaticAngel
04/12/17 1:25:46 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
mario2000 posted...
imagine getting your political beliefs from fantasy movies

imagine getting your MGTOW misogynist political beliefs from a fantasy movie made by two transwomen.


Did you just use transgender...ism(?) as an insult? I don't think the Wichalsky brothers or whatever are both really transwomen, are they?


It's a jab at the redpillers who often subscribe to anti-trans-isms yet use a metaphor created by transwomen.

And yes, the Wachowski bros are not a thing anymore. They are the Wachowski sisters. Lana and Lilly.
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mario2000
04/12/17 11:04:19 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
mario2000 posted...
imagine getting your political beliefs from fantasy movies

imagine getting your MGTOW misogynist political beliefs from a fantasy movie made by two transwomen.


Did you just use transgender...ism(?) as an insult? I don't think the Wichalsky brothers or whatever are both really transwomen, are they?

>thinks that he/she's using transgenderism as an insult
>gets their name wrong and calls them "brothers"
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pinky0926
04/12/17 11:06:23 AM
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They literally think they've woken up to the harsh reality of the world and the rest of us chumps are unenlightened fools stuck in plato's cave. That's why.

Most hilarious and sad thing I've ever heard.
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pinky0926
04/12/17 11:07:44 AM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Gafemage posted...
@Butterfiles posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MGTOW

The fuck does this mean? And do I want to know?


Men Going Their Own Way. Basically the most extreme form of Men's Rights Activism.


I've heard from both. They really don't share that much. Honestly MRAs have a lot in common with feminists and want to break down gender roles. Red pill guys just are sick of paying for dinner lol. I think on the surface there are some good points, but they get dumb about it. A lot of them kinda use my favorite comic Patrice O'Neal, but bastardized what he said.


My god, imagine playing down red pill theory as just a bunch of dudes who don't want to pay for dinner anymore.
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_Goggalor_
04/12/17 11:11:01 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Gafemage posted...
@Butterfiles posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MGTOW

The fuck does this mean? And do I want to know?


Men Going Their Own Way. Basically the most extreme form of Men's Rights Activism.


I've heard from both. They really don't share that much. Honestly MRAs have a lot in common with feminists and want to break down gender roles. Red pill guys just are sick of paying for dinner lol. I think on the surface there are some good points, but they get dumb about it. A lot of them kinda use my favorite comic Patrice O'Neal, but bastardized what he said.


My god, imagine playing down red pill theory as just a bunch of dudes who don't want to pay for dinner anymore.


What's wrong with not wanting to play games to get sex? Because that's a lot of what I got out of that paragraph about what red pill is. It's true, dating is skewed in favor of women these days.
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pinky0926
04/12/17 11:16:06 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
What's wrong with not wanting to play games to get sex? Because that's a lot of what I got out of that paragraph about what red pill is. It's true, dating is skewed in favor of women these days.


What's wrong with deliberately manipulating people, lying about your intentions and going out of your way to fuck with their emotions and security to get what you want, even if you know that it's not what they would want? I guess if you're a total psychopath that's a fair question.
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mario2000
04/12/17 11:50:47 AM
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imagine thinking there's even a point to dating anymore when Chad already took all the girls
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_Goggalor_
04/12/17 12:15:42 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
What's wrong with not wanting to play games to get sex? Because that's a lot of what I got out of that paragraph about what red pill is. It's true, dating is skewed in favor of women these days.


What's wrong with deliberately manipulating people, lying about your intentions and going out of your way to fuck with their emotions and security to get what you want, even if you know that it's not what they would want? I guess if you're a total psychopath that's a fair question.


It's not wrong if that's the game women want to play. You want to play hard to get or put up complicated barriers to get to sex, then don't be surprised when guys play games back or lie to get to what they really want.
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HydraSlayer82
04/12/17 12:19:43 PM
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The red pill is from the matrix and allowed Neo to see things as they actually were. That's what they were going for anyway with the reference.
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pinky0926
04/12/17 12:20:20 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...

It's not wrong if that's the game women want to play. You want to play hard to get or put up complicated barriers to get to sex, then don't be surprised when guys play games back or lie to get to what they really want.


Why not hold yourself to your own standard, instead of stooping to the awful behaviours of other people? It's not a lose-lose situation, by the way. There are other ways to play the game that don't involve straight up abusive behaviour.

The red pill theory works because in principal it gives you the tools you need to be an attractive mate. Backbone, self reliance, initiative, a method that allows you to confront fears with a plan, focus on self improvement, etc. But you don't need to think up creative ways to break down a woman's self esteem or dehumanise her entire existence to get there.
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_Goggalor_
04/12/17 12:26:15 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...

It's not wrong if that's the game women want to play. You want to play hard to get or put up complicated barriers to get to sex, then don't be surprised when guys play games back or lie to get to what they really want.


Why not hold yourself to your own standard, instead of stooping to the awful behaviours of other people? It's not a lose-lose situation, by the way. There are other ways to play the game that don't involve straight up abusive behaviour.

The red pill theory works because in principal it gives you the tools you need to be an attractive mate. Backbone, self reliance, initiative, a method that allows you to confront fears with a plan, etc. But you don't need to think up creative ways to break down a woman's self esteem or dehumanise her entire existence to get there.


What if all I want is sex and I don't want nor care to get to know the person as a person and have to play any game at all to do so? Doesn't seem to work. That's why manipulation is OK to me.
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Nomadic View
04/12/17 12:28:36 PM
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The red pill is the truth, but it's not all sunshine and rainbows.

The blue pill is complacency with living in ignorance and illusions.
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pinky0926
04/12/17 12:29:23 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...


What if all I want is sex and I don't want nor care to get to know the person as a person and have to play any game at all to do so? Doesn't seem to work. That's why manipulation is OK to me.


Then find people for whom that situation is compatible. Tinder, Okcupid and PoF are good starts. Turns out there are lots of women who want casual sex and have positive attitudes towards such things.

Source: guy who has historically fucked a lot of women in casual encounters, didn't have to lie or neg or call them hamsters or plates or w/e
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_Goggalor_
04/12/17 12:31:05 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...


What if all I want is sex and I don't want nor care to get to know the person as a person and have to play any game at all to do so? Doesn't seem to work. That's why manipulation is OK to me.


Then find people for whom that situation is compatible. Tinder, Okcupid and PoF are good starts. Turns out there are lots of women who want casual sex and have positive attitudes towards such things.

Source: guy who has historically fucked a lot of women in casual encounters, didn't have to lie or neg or call them hamsters or plates or w/e


Literally every Tinder/okc profile these days: "no hookups"
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pinky0926
04/12/17 12:34:13 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Literally every Tinder/okc profile these days: "no hookups"


Usually women will say that to deter men who just want to put in zero effort and treat Tinder like the free prostitute service. Go for the women who have no expectations and just want to go for a drink and see what happens. Those girls are down to fuck if they like you, I guarantee it.
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Kalavinka
04/12/17 12:36:53 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
What if all I want is sex and I don't want nor care to get to know the person as a person and have to play any game at all to do so? Doesn't seem to work. That's why manipulation is OK to me.


If you're willing to pull downright disturbing mind "games" just for an ego boost, I'd suggest you completely rethink your life priorities.
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DoctorVader
04/12/17 12:50:21 PM
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Red pill is more about looking out for red flags and responding accordingly. People get their perception of the red pill from shit like Reddit, but it's pretty much just been the strategy for men in NYC for decades.
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_Goggalor_
04/12/17 1:11:43 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Literally every Tinder/okc profile these days: "no hookups"


Usually women will say that to deter men who just want to put in zero effort and treat Tinder like the free prostitute service. Go for the women who have no expectations and just want to go for a drink and see what happens. Those girls are down to fuck if they like you, I guarantee it.


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That's my whole fucking point. That's still a game. I don't want to talk and jive a bs, I just want to fuck. That's the only need of mine I need a woman for. Literally could not care less about emotional intimacy.
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gp1829
04/12/17 2:09:54 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
pinky0926 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Literally every Tinder/okc profile these days: "no hookups"


Usually women will say that to deter men who just want to put in zero effort and treat Tinder like the free prostitute service. Go for the women who have no expectations and just want to go for a drink and see what happens. Those girls are down to fuck if they like you, I guarantee it.


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That's my whole fucking point. That's still a game. I don't want to talk and jive a bs, I just want to fuck. That's the only need of mine I need a woman for. Literally could not care less about emotional intimacy.


You probably should just hire a prostitute then.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/12/17 2:16:57 PM
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I had the unfortunate experience of visiting a MGTOW reddit, and pretty much every single post was about how women are gold-digging whores by nature, how they only date bad guys because they're addicted to abuse or something and how the world would be a grand utopia if it was just populated by men.

Basically, they're virgins that can't get laid and blame their constant rejection on women being evil, and not them being passive-aggressive, unremarkable douchebags.


Funny how a group of guys that talk about "Men Going Their Own Way" dedicate pretty much all of their energy towards hating on women.
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pinky0926
04/12/17 2:21:07 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
pinky0926 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Literally every Tinder/okc profile these days: "no hookups"


Usually women will say that to deter men who just want to put in zero effort and treat Tinder like the free prostitute service. Go for the women who have no expectations and just want to go for a drink and see what happens. Those girls are down to fuck if they like you, I guarantee it.


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That's my whole fucking point. That's still a game. I don't want to talk and jive a bs, I just want to fuck. That's the only need of mine I need a woman for. Literally could not care less about emotional intimacy.


There's a difference between taking a relationship casually and being straight up emotionally manipulative. Treating people with common decency and respect has nothing to do with intimacy.
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