Current Events > Canadian leaps into ice-cold water to controversially rescue dog from drowning.

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On April 8, Duncan McIver was at a park in Alberta with his French bulldog, Cosmo, when the pup suddenly broke through thin ice at a pond and was struggling to keep its head above water.

“As soon as the ice broke, I just went right in,” McIver told CTV Edmonton, still shivering from the freezing cold water. “I think most people would do the same for their dog.”

The news station was at the park, coincidentally, for a story about ice safety. Officials said there has been a dramatic increase in ice-rescue calls recently, with three calls coming in since April 6 alone.

Footage of McIver's brave rescue attempt is being circulated throughout social media. Once he dieves into the icy pond to save Cosmo, McIver is able to get to the dog and mount it onto a strip of concrete. CTV Edmonton reporter Angela Jung then calls 911 to get help for both owner and dog.

McIver plunges through the ice once more before ultimately making it ashore. He was able to save his dog all on his own.

“It’s a split-second thing,” McIver told Jung just moments after emerging from the cold pond. “You’re not just going to let him die, right?”



Reactions to the video were mixed. While most users commended McIver for his bravery, others thought the dog owner put himself at risk.

"He was an idiot. His life was worth a lot more than the life of a dog and what he did put him in extreme danger," wrote one user. "I'm betting the next time something like this happens the end result will be a dead owner."

Still, other dog owners felt McIver did the right thing.

One user commented: "Did it once, about 30 years ago in Scotland, though I had to crawl about 30 meters out on the ice to pull out a German Shepherd that day."

"I agree it would just be an instinct to help the dog," wrote another. "Just think how easy it would have been to keep the dog on a lead though so that there would no chance of it falling in in the first place. So really, he chose to put his dog at risk -- so of course he should jump in and save it!"

Full ARticle: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/animal-rights/dog-owner-saves-pup-frozen-river-falls-river-himself

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C868v2HVoAAqhVW.jpg

"Lead" is Canadian for "leash" BTW.
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His body, his choice. Doesn't matter what other people have to say.
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I forgot Unfair had an odd fetish for that Opposing Views site.
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Those who are saying it was foolish can straight up go fuck themselves.

The man is a goddamn hero.
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He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died
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Zurkon posted...

MarioBro88 posted...

The man is a goddamn hero.

This, fuck the haters.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

Every time I think about this I think about the animals who risked themselves to save people, especially the feral ones.

I can only hope I'd make the split second decision to act in that situation.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

One user commented: "Did it once, about 30 years ago in Scotland, though I had to crawl about 30 meters out on the ice to pull out a German Shepherd that day."

This guy is either trolling or a legitimate cool guy
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thompsontalker7 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

One user commented: "Did it once, about 30 years ago in Scotland, though I had to crawl about 30 meters out on the ice to pull out a German Shepherd that day."

This guy is either trolling or a legitimate cool guy

He's Scottish

They'd rather climb a tree and lie than stay on the ground and tell the truth

Gonna be fun to watch non-Scottish people all act offended by this while the Scots laugh
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

That's just straight up suicide. If a dog went into that it was already dead. Then once the guy hit it, he was already dead.

In this situation, it's not insta death. He had time to save his dog and live. I know this, well, because he did!
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

It takes a much longer time to die from being in icy water (typically about 15 minutes before hypothermia begins to set in while in the water, even longer still for body temperature to drop to lethal levels) than boiling hot water. Spending one minute in the water to save his dog won't kill him as long as he takes steps to prevent hypothermia after getting out which was done by onlookers that called 911 on his behalf. Critics of this guy are simply just ignorant of the facts at hand.
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Paragon21XX posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

It takes a much longer time to die from being in icy water (typically about 15 minutes before hypothermia begins to set in while in the water, even longer still for body temperature to drop to lethal levels) than boiling hot water. Spending one minute in the water to save his dog won't kill him as long as he takes steps to prevent hypothermia after getting out which was done by onlookers that called 911 on his behalf. Critics of this guy are simply just ignorant of the facts at hand.

You're missing the point here
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Any one on this board thinks they can swim better than their dogs? If you say yes, you are in way over your head.

I wish I could throw the haters into some ice-cold water.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

It takes a much longer time to die from being in icy water (typically about 15 minutes before hypothermia begins to set in while in the water, even longer still for body temperature to drop to lethal levels) than boiling hot water. Spending one minute in the water to save his dog won't kill him as long as he takes steps to prevent hypothermia after getting out which was done by onlookers that called 911 on his behalf. Critics of this guy are simply just ignorant of the facts at hand.

You're missing the point here

Would you mind clarifying what the point is?

He deserves all the wow
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The_Doge posted...

He deserves all the wow

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That situation is mildly risky. I'd probably do the same to save a pet.

Colder and deeper water?

Probably not. I can't swim.

Also, keep your damn dogs on leash. I've seen a few senile dogs walking with their owners that just wander across the road, oblivious to the fact that it's where cars frequently go.
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ProudProtoMan posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

It takes a much longer time to die from being in icy water (typically about 15 minutes before hypothermia begins to set in while in the water, even longer still for body temperature to drop to lethal levels) than boiling hot water. Spending one minute in the water to save his dog won't kill him as long as he takes steps to prevent hypothermia after getting out which was done by onlookers that called 911 on his behalf. Critics of this guy are simply just ignorant of the facts at hand.

You're missing the point here

Would you mind clarifying what the point is?

I think it's that he risked himself for a dog, and the critics don't think a dog is worth risking yourself for.

The reality is he risked himself for something that he loves.
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shnangyboos posted...

ProudProtoMan posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

It takes a much longer time to die from being in icy water (typically about 15 minutes before hypothermia begins to set in while in the water, even longer still for body temperature to drop to lethal levels) than boiling hot water. Spending one minute in the water to save his dog won't kill him as long as he takes steps to prevent hypothermia after getting out which was done by onlookers that called 911 on his behalf. Critics of this guy are simply just ignorant of the facts at hand.

You're missing the point here

Would you mind clarifying what the point is?

I think it's that he risked himself for a dog, and the critics don't think a dog is worth risking yourself for.

The reality is he risked himself for something that he loves.

I thought that too but @Paragon21XX explained why the risk was minimal and TC made a point to tell him he's missing the point. I was just hoping for more clarification.

Luckily the man was a Canadian. If this happened to a US citizen, he would have pulled out his AR-15 and unloaded a few mags into the ice for self defense, accidentally killing his dog in the process.
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Oh and then he'd sue the water for being at an unpleasant temperature.
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The lake was later destroyed.
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Hes an idiot; not for jumping in, but for letting his dog near a pond with the current weather. Its pretty obvious that the ice is thawing...
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ProudProtoMan posted...

Would you mind clarifying what the point is?

UnfairRepresent posted...

"He was an idiot. His life was worth a lot more than the life of a dog and what he did put him in extreme danger," wrote one user. "I'm betting the next time something like this happens the end result will be a dead owner."

The critic's point is what happens if he dies, how will his parents or kids feel
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I don't think I would dive in, but I'd least try to pull him out
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

He knew the risks.

Questionmarktarius posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

He knew the risks.

And that's why the critics are conerned.

They have kids or brothers.

Imagine the person you love most in the world died because they were trying to save a cat

How would you feel?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

This is the critics' point

Imagine if he died

He knew the risks.

And that's why the critics are conerned.

They have kids or brothers.

Imagine the person you love most in the world died because they were trying to save a cat

How would you feel?

He knew the risks.

SpiralDrift posted...

His body, his choice. Doesn't matter what other people have to say.

Basically. Many people love their animals as much as their own children.
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ReignFury posted...

Basically. Many people love their animals as much as their own children.

I find it hard to believe pet owners don't see their pets as anything but their own children.
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Once you actually have children, you quickly realize how silly the "my pets are my kids" mentality really is
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eston posted...

Once you actually have children, you quickly realize how silly the "my pets are my kids" mentality really is

Says man who doesn't have kids
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My son turns 5 in July.
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eston posted...

My son turns 5 in July.

huh, I thought you were like 14

Must be confusing you with someone else
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Clearly
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Any pet owner who loves their pet would do the same.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

He was lucky. Before I do anything rash, I remind myself of the guy who was boiled to death after he jumped into a thermal spring at Yellowstone National Park, to try and save his dog.

I care about my dogs enough that i would do something like that without thinking.
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I know my dog protects me with it's life, and would risk injury or even death for me without a second thought, I should be able to do the same.
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itachi15243 posted...

I know my dog protects me with it's life, and would risk injury or even death for me without a second thought

He's a dog

He'd risk injury or death for a sausage
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Good shit, guy.
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If a man wants to risk his own life thats his business.

Now if there are people in his life that are critically dependent on him, like a sick child who needs medicine from the next city but the only way to get it to him on time is on foot, there may be room for concern.

But facebook dweebs wouldnt know that. And he ended up alright. And hes a grown man.

Lol.
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AlisLandale posted...

Now if there are people in his life that are critically dependent on him, like a sick child who needs medicine from the next city but the only way to get it to him on time is on foot, there may be room for concern.

Now now, there's at least one road in Canada.

Clearly the dog meant enough to him for him to risk his life to save it. Who gives a flying fuck about what anyone else thinks about the situation. Only he can be the judge of whether it was worth it or not, and it's pretty obvious that it was.

Questionmarktarius posted...

AlisLandale posted...

Now if there are people in his life that are critically dependent on him, like a sick child who needs medicine from the next city but the only way to get it to him on time is on foot, there may be room for concern.

Now now, there's at least one road in Canada.

Until a blizzard makes roads impassable.

Thats when you have the plot of Balto 2: Balto Harder.
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eston posted...

Once you actually have children, you quickly realize how silly the "my pets are my kids" mentality really is

How about you save us the trouble and just explain what's so silly about the mentality?
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zDonKEY_K0ngz posted...

Clearly the dog meant enough to him for him to risk his life to save it. Who gives a flying fuck about what anyone else thinks about the situation. Only he can be the judge of whether it was worth it or not, and it's pretty obvious that it was.

Ok so what if he was your son and he died

How would you feel?
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