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Logos 04/10/17 8:43:54 PM #1:	http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pension-crisis-initiatives/ --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876944470] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pension-crisis-initiatives/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 8:51:39 PM #2:	bump --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876945019] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gen_Lee_Enfield 04/10/17 9:09:35 PM #3:	True, but nothing is going to be done about it. --- No. 1 Mark III Pie Jesu Domine, Dona eis requiem. <cite>Gen_Lee_Enfield posted [p:876946194] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>True, but nothing is going to be done about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:11:38 PM #4:	Gen_Lee_Enfield posted... True, but nothing is going to be done about it. Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876946344] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gen_Lee_Enfield posted...</cite> <quote>True, but nothing is going to be done about it.</quote> Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 04/10/17 9:17:23 PM #5:	Logos posted... Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending. http://abc7news.com/society/bart-janitor-makes-$276k-with-overtime-pay/1584858/ The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. Shipping Dock workers get ridiculous 6 figure wages + pensions There have been fully automated Shipping Docks since the mid to early 90's. Yet unions won't allow us to modernize / save. These unions / government workers are too expensive. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:876946723] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending.</quote> http://abc7news.com/society/bart-janitor-makes-$276k-with-overtime-pay/1584858/ The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. Shipping Dock workers get ridiculous 6 figure wages + pensions There have been fully automated Shipping Docks since the mid to early 90's. Yet unions won't allow us to modernize / save. These unions / government workers are too expensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 04/10/17 9:19:26 PM #6:	Another reason why the whole "Calexit" thing is rather ridiculous. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:876946858] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>Another reason why the whole "Calexit" thing is rather ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:21:48 PM #7:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending. http://abc7news.com/society/bart-janitor-makes-$276k-with-overtime-pay/1584858/ The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. Shipping Dock workers get ridiculous 6 figure wages + pensions There have been fully automated Shipping Docks since the mid to early 90's. Yet unions won't allow us to modernize / save. These unions / government workers are too expensive. Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876947025] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending.</quote> http://abc7news.com/society/bart-janitor-makes-$276k-with-overtime-pay/1584858/ The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. Shipping Dock workers get ridiculous 6 figure wages + pensions There have been fully automated Shipping Docks since the mid to early 90's. Yet unions won't allow us to modernize / save. These unions / government workers are too expensive.</quote> Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burgess 04/10/17 9:22:47 PM #8:	Logos posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending. http://abc7news.com/society/bart-janitor-makes-$276k-with-overtime-pay/1584858/ The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. Shipping Dock workers get ridiculous 6 figure wages + pensions There have been fully automated Shipping Docks since the mid to early 90's. Yet unions won't allow us to modernize / save. These unions / government workers are too expensive. Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Well clearly you fucked up and should have done something else. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen <cite>Burgess posted [p:876947093] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending.</quote> http://abc7news.com/society/bart-janitor-makes-$276k-with-overtime-pay/1584858/ The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. Shipping Dock workers get ridiculous 6 figure wages + pensions There have been fully automated Shipping Docks since the mid to early 90's. Yet unions won't allow us to modernize / save. These unions / government workers are too expensive.</quote> Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote> Well clearly you fucked up and should have done something else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/10/17 9:22:57 PM #9:	Logos posted... Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending. This. I can name a few they can start with. KamenRiderBlade posted... The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS. This also. the funny thing is, I've seen him working again after the story aired on TV. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:876947103] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe they should fire some of their state employees and reduce spending.</quote> This. I can name a few they can start with. <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote>The SF BART janitor makes $276K with overtime. It's complete and utter BS.</quote> This also. the funny thing is, I've seen him working again after the story aired on TV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 04/10/17 9:23:24 PM #10:	Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:876947142] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/10/17 9:23:35 PM #11:	Iodine posted... Another reason why the whole "Calexit" thing is rather ridiculous. Why do people think calexit is legitimate? I live here. No one is talking about. Anywhere. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:876947155] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Another reason why the whole "Calexit" thing is rather ridiculous.</quote> Why do people think calexit is legitimate? I live here. No one is talking about. Anywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:23:38 PM #12:	Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao You literally complaining that a new college grade is making six figures straight out of college. Must be a Proudclad topic. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876947159] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote> You literally complaining that a new college grade is making six figures straight out of college. Must be a Proudclad topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluster 04/10/17 9:24:38 PM #13:	>lame pension crisis --- The artist formerly known as Luster_Sly http://i.imgur.com/svnvY.jpg <cite>Bluster posted [p:876947229] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>>lame pension crisis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/10/17 9:25:18 PM #14:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:876947276] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor.</quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/10/17 9:25:30 PM #15:	Interesting how Proudclad logic changes from topic to topic, depending what side things fall on. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876947293] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>Interesting how Proudclad logic changes from topic to topic, depending what side things fall on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 04/10/17 9:27:50 PM #16:	TheVipaGTS posted... Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitors-whopping-ot-averaged-6-8-hours-every-day/ The guy is technically not capable of putting in full performance for all the OT time he signs up for. It's a complete and utter ripoff. You should investigate people who demand such big paychecks and see if it matches their job description and capability of even performing to that level. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:876947462] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior?</quote> http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitors-whopping-ot-averaged-6-8-hours-every-day/ The guy is technically not capable of putting in full performance for all the OT time he signs up for. It's a complete and utter ripoff. You should investigate people who demand such big paychecks and see if it matches their job description and capability of even performing to that level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:28:15 PM #17:	TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... Actually no, that Janitor does in fact make too much and he was gaming the system by working hours that was physically impossible to do so. Bart is disgusting and filthy and is a shitty job, so they should definitely be paid well, but working 100 hour overtime a week will not lead to good work and he can't be everywhere at once. You divide his salary by 3 and you can have 2 more people have well paying jobs and can make the station much cleaner. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876947480] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor.</quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> Actually no, that Janitor does in fact make too much and he was gaming the system by working hours that was physically impossible to do so. Bart is disgusting and filthy and is a shitty job, so they should definitely be paid well, but working 100 hour overtime a week will not lead to good work and he can't be everywhere at once. You divide his salary by 3 and you can have 2 more people have well paying jobs and can make the station much cleaner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:28:39 PM #18:	Burgess posted... Well clearly you f**ed up and should have done something else. I make a little over $100,000 in a different (cheaper) state. So not my problem. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am.* - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876947507] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>Well clearly you f***ed up and should have done something else. </quote> I make a little over $100,000 in a different (cheaper) state. So not my problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burgess 04/10/17 9:29:22 PM #19:	So then why are you complaining like it is. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen <cite>Burgess posted [p:876947545] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:29:22 PM #20:	TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876947546] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor.</quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:29:46 PM #21:	Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Should we ignore issues if they happen in other states. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876947579] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Should we ignore issues if they happen in other states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/10/17 9:30:17 PM #22:	I've always thought public unions should be illegal. This kind of shit is absurd. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:876947610] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>I've always thought public unions should be illegal. This kind of shit is absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/10/17 9:30:58 PM #23:	CruelBuffalo posted... Actually no, that Janitor does in fact make too much and he was gaming the system by working hours that was physically impossible to do so. Bart is disgusting and filthy and is a shitty job, so they should definitely be paid well, but working 100 hour overtime a week will not lead to good work and he can't be everywhere at once. Came in to say this. Plus the station he was working at was still dirty and disgusting. It was like it was never cleaned. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:876947657] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Actually no, that Janitor does in fact make too much and he was gaming the system by working hours that was physically impossible to do so. Bart is disgusting and filthy and is a shitty job, so they should definitely be paid well, but working 100 hour overtime a week will not lead to good work and he can't be everywhere at once.</quote> Came in to say this. Plus the station he was working at was still dirty and disgusting. It was like it was never cleaned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burgess 04/10/17 9:31:17 PM #24:	Logos posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Should we ignore issues if they happen in other states. Yes. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen <cite>Burgess posted [p:876947678] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Should we ignore issues if they happen in other states.</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:31:21 PM #25:	Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876947687] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:32:25 PM #26:	CruelBuffalo posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876947764] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/10/17 9:33:43 PM #27:	Tech employees should unionize. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:876947861] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>Tech employees should unionize.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 04/10/17 9:35:16 PM #28:	TheVipaGTS posted... Why do people think calexit is legitimate? I live here. No one is talking about. Anywhere. This, the internet gives attention to too much dumb stuff. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:876947967] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people think calexit is legitimate? I live here. No one is talking about. Anywhere.</quote> This, the internet gives attention to too much dumb stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:38:17 PM #29:	Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now. Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876948209] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now.</quote> Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:39:06 PM #30:	CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now. Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself. Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876948276] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now.</quote> Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself.</quote> Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:41:15 PM #31:	Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now. Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself. Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about. Proudclad ladies and gentlemen. Oh and if anyone cares to read https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75221403 such a typical comp sci major <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876948444] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now.</quote> Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself.</quote> Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about.</quote> Proudclad ladies and gentlemen. Oh and if anyone cares to read https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75221403 such a typical comp sci major</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 9:42:20 PM #32:	CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now. Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself. Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about. Proudclad ladies and gentlemen. Oh and if anyone cares to read https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75221403 such a typical comp sci major lmao are you really going to link to your own spanking? --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876948520] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now.</quote> Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself.</quote> Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about.</quote> Proudclad ladies and gentlemen. Oh and if anyone cares to read https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75221403 such a typical comp sci major</quote> lmao are you really going to link to your own spanking?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NES4EVER 04/10/17 9:44:06 PM #33:	Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Burgess posted... So then why are you complaining like it is. Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up. You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now. Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself. Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about. Kinda like your stupid topic about the UK where your ass got spanked and you got pissy and closed the topic? --- *nu-horsemen 4evar* [A GameFAQs Moderator was deleted by this message] <cite>NES4EVER posted [p:876948663] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Burgess posted...</cite> <quote>So then why are you complaining like it is.</quote> Because all he does is whine and complain. And when he was called on constantly whining and complaining he deleted his account and made a new one so he wouldn't be called out on his whining and complaining but has kept it up.</quote> You got spanked in that topic about gun control. Don't become bitter in other topics, now.</quote> Is that how you view conversations? Constantly one upping and "spanking" people? The conversation actually got much better in that topic once you left. Maybe you should took a hard look at yourself.</quote> Don't kid yourself, multiple people spanked you because you literally had no clue what you were talking about.</quote> Kinda like your stupid topic about the UK where your ass got spanked and you got pissy and closed the topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 04/10/17 9:44:34 PM #34:	Logos posted... TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much. Seems like an issue with supply and demand, mostly. Looks like California had too many educated people and not enough willing to sweep a floor. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:876948693] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote> Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao </quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. </quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much.</quote> Seems like an issue with supply and demand, mostly. Looks like California had too many educated people and not enough willing to sweep a floor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/10/17 9:44:54 PM #35:	You couldn't pay me to read that topic. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:876948715] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>You couldn't pay me to read that topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/10/17 9:46:21 PM #36:	My point is the comparison is pointless. Make your argument for why the janitor is overpaid. But if you turn around make a comparison to a completely different industry and say "and those guys only make this much!"...it does nothing to help those guys. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:876948846] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>My point is the comparison is pointless. Make your argument for why the janitor is overpaid. But if you turn around make a comparison to a completely different industry and say "and those guys only make this much!"...it does nothing to help those guys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:46:40 PM #37:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Logos posted... TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much. Seems like an issue with supply and demand, mostly. Looks like California had too many educated people and not enough willing to sweep a floor. In this specific case there wasn't, the local news did an audit and even caught the employee in the closet for hours at a time...moreover he was violating overtime rules and caught not actually clocking out multiple times. He should be fired, but because the bart union is so strong he won't be. The union really should let him get fired for multiple cases of fraud, but c'est la vie <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876948872] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote> Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao </quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. </quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much.</quote> Seems like an issue with supply and demand, mostly. Looks like California had too many educated people and not enough willing to sweep a floor.</quote> In this specific case there wasn't, the local news did an audit and even caught the employee in the closet for hours at a time...moreover he was violating overtime rules and caught not actually clocking out multiple times. He should be fired, but because the bart union is so strong he won't be. The union really should let him get fired for multiple cases of fraud, but c'est la vie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 9:47:12 PM #38:	TheVipaGTS posted... My point is the comparison is pointless. Make your argument for why the janitor is overpaid. But if you turn around make a comparison to a completely different industry and say "and those guys only make this much!"...it does nothing to help those guys. agreed. Antifar posted... You couldn't pay me to read that topic. I don't blame you, there was even cute racism in the topic multiple times <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876948910] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>My point is the comparison is pointless. Make your argument for why the janitor is overpaid. But if you turn around make a comparison to a completely different industry and say "and those guys only make this much!"...it does nothing to help those guys.</quote> agreed. <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>You couldn't pay me to read that topic.</quote> I don't blame you, there was even cute racism in the topic multiple times</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 04/10/17 9:50:35 PM #39:	CruelBuffalo posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... Logos posted... TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much. Seems like an issue with supply and demand, mostly. Looks like California had too many educated people and not enough willing to sweep a floor. In this specific case there wasn't, the local news did an audit and even caught the employee in the closet for hours at a time...moreover he was violating overtime rules and caught not actually clocking out multiple times. He should be fired, but because the bart union is so strong he won't be. The union really should let him get fired for multiple cases of fraud, but c'est la vie Sounds like a dude who knows how to milk a shitty system. He's like the Martin Shkreli of people with mops. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:876949154] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote> Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao </quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. </quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... </quote> Uh, if a janitor is making nearly 300,000 a year and educated people are starting out at 100,000...that's a problem with state employees being paid way too much. </quote> Seems like an issue with supply and demand, mostly. Looks like California had too many educated people and not enough willing to sweep a floor.</quote> In this specific case there wasn't, the local news did an audit and even caught the employee in the closet for hours at a time...moreover he was violating overtime rules and caught not actually clocking out multiple times. He should be fired, but because the bart union is so strong he won't be. The union really should let him get fired for multiple cases of fraud, but c'est la vie</quote> Sounds like a dude who knows how to milk a shitty system. He's like the Martin Shkreli of people with mops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gojak_v3 04/10/17 10:12:24 PM #40:	TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... lol vipa sees no problem with a janitor making 300k a year. --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:876950770] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao</quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor.</quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> lol vipa sees no problem with a janitor making 300k a year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 04/10/17 10:28:29 PM #41:	Gojak_v3 posted... TheVipaGTS posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Logos posted... Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!".... lol vipa sees no problem with a janitor making 300k a year. Can you answer his question? How would the janitor being paid less help tech workers? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:876951930] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gojak_v3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote> Meanwhile, software engineers with 4 years of college are barely cracking $100,000 to start with. lmao </quote>Some fair world we have here, bust your butts, use your brain; you get a pittance compared to the government taxed and paid janitor. </quote> Is the janitor not working hard? Your concern shouldn't be that the janitor makes too much. It should be that techs make too little. Don't keep others down because a completely different industry isn't paying right. No one wins in that case. So janitors make less...how did that help underpaid techs? Just to help them feel superior? And lol "poor guys they only make 6 figures!"....</quote> lol vipa sees no problem with a janitor making 300k a year.</quote> Can you answer his question? How would the janitor being paid less help tech workers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gojak_v3 04/10/17 10:33:48 PM #42:	The tech worker is irrelevant and a deflection. The huge problem is paying a janitor $300k --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:876952287] in California... [t:75222748]...</cite> <quote>The tech worker is irrelevant and a deflection. The huge problem is paying a janitor $300k</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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