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AmonAmarth
04/10/17 8:36:35 PM
#1:


Do you believe that Jews are an ethnic group?



I think we all agree that Jews are certainly followers of Judaism.
But how about ethnicity?

According to some Jewish sects, only the child of the mother can be Jewish.
Do you agree with this line of thought?

Or does having a Jewish mother and father count equally?
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RebelElite791
04/10/17 8:38:08 PM
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A poster who talks about how the "anglosphere" is being destroyed makes me feel that the motivations behind this topic are highly, highly suspect.
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AmonAmarth
04/10/17 8:40:37 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
A poster who talks about how the "anglosphere" is being destroyed makes me feel that the motivations behind this topic are highly, highly suspect.


no idea what you mean. do you want to intervene my topics simply to troll? you dont have to keep reposting that above line.
i prefer to stay on topic. purpose of the topic is obvious im just curious because I know many people have differing views on that subject.
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_Near_
04/10/17 8:41:25 PM
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no shit
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ThyCorndog
04/10/17 8:41:25 PM
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yes

as for the mother thing, no not really. Maybe if it's a religious thing, but genes get passed on by both parents so
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MabusIncarnate
04/10/17 8:43:27 PM
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My mom says there's a lot of Jewish people in Africa
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Dathrowed1
04/10/17 8:45:26 PM
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Jew/Judean was an ethnic designation before a religious one.
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boxington
04/10/17 8:45:36 PM
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Judaism has matrilineal succession, IIRC.

Edit: I think it's Orthodox Judaism, or something like that.
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AmonAmarth
04/10/17 8:47:48 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
My mom says there's a lot of Jewish people in Africa


Here are some of the Jewish ethnogroups I know:

Ashkenazi (Jews who lived in Germany, Scandivia, and Eastern Europe). This is the largest group.
Sephardi (Jews who lived in Spain, Portugal, France).
Mizrahi (Jews who lived in the Middle East the whole time)
Maghrebi (those who lived in North Africa).

(sometimes the last 2 are grouped with Sephardi).

There are groups of Jews in Africa, for example in Ethopia, but they werent treated to well in Israel.
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E32005
04/10/17 8:49:15 PM
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pretty sure most gov'ts and the UN recognize Jews as a race as well as Judaism the religion.
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Iodine
04/10/17 8:49:17 PM
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No because there are black Jews.
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ChromaticAngel
04/10/17 8:50:26 PM
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Jews were an ethnic group at one point. It was originally an exclusive religion that you could not convert to. That literally didn't change until Jerusalem & the temple was destroyed.
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AmonAmarth
04/10/17 8:54:20 PM
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Iodine posted...
No because there are black Jews.


ethnicity is a little different from race.

ethnicity: an ethnic group; a social group that shares a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like.

race: any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics.
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Dathrowed1
04/10/17 9:16:04 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Jews were an ethnic group at one point. It was originally an exclusive religion that you could not convert to. That literally didn't change until Jerusalem & the temple was destroyed.

Naw the Jews proselytized a lot during Hellenistic times (when Judaism was recognized as a thing) and the bible even talks about Alien Residents (a term for converts such as Uriah the Hittite, Doag the Idumean, and Ebed-Melech the Ethiopian) and had provisions for them.
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AmonAmarth
04/11/17 1:57:51 AM
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bump before sleep.
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thronedfire2
04/11/17 2:00:40 AM
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I thought it was offensive to say 'Jews' like that
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AmonAmarth
04/11/17 2:01:13 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I thought it was offensive to say 'Jews' like that


??
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Verdekal
04/11/17 2:01:51 AM
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Jews are Jews.
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Saloonist
04/11/17 2:07:12 AM
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Sure its both an ethnic and a religious group, but I still think its much more of a religious group than ethnic, at least today.

When most Jews give up the religion, which is increasingly the norm, they stop being "Jews" within like two generations because they assimate into the mainstream. I feel like you dont really see generations of ethnic Jews like you do with other ethnic groups like Hispanics or blacks once they're secularized.. Once they lose the religion I wonder if there's anything that really binds them as a group. But maybe I'm ignant.
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AmonAmarth
04/11/17 5:31:11 PM
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final bump.
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BilalPowell
04/11/17 5:37:58 PM
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No Judaism is a choice. You can't choose to be from an ethnic group.
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Lightsasori
04/11/17 5:39:21 PM
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Almost every Jew at my work place admitted to being an atheist. They just usually follow the traditions however.
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