Current Events > The Socialdemocrats about to ban religious schools in Sweden.

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Guardian-Sloth posted...

That's not exactly right, it's true that Dems are more liberal now, but most of the racists have died off.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? You're the one making the claims that it was the liberals who try to make interracial marriage illegal, when in reality it was the conservatives the same way they wanted gay marriage to be illegal.

Guardian-Sloth posted...

This is also incorrect. Target in particular has had multiple alleged assaults/recordings directly resulting from their failed bathroom policy.

Difference is those were heterosexual perverts, not transgender people. The bathroom bill isn't going to stop perverts from being perverts.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

assuming standard education benchmarks and practices have to be meet like here in the US

*stares at Bible belt*

hahahahahaha
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JE19426 posted...

Lightsasori posted...

Good, public schools shouldn't have anything to do with religion.

Free schools =/= Public schools.

BalanceLost posted...

That makes sense. In Swedish it means "free" as in not owned by the State so to speak.

Yeah my mistake, if that is the case I'm kind of against this ruling. I believe there should be a private sector open in education for parents that want their children taught a certain way, including religion.
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Good. Hopefully they ban even religious private schools, and get rid of that cancer.
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WaffIeElite posted...

Good. Hopefully they ban even religious private schools, and get rid of that cancer.

Private schools should be banned in general. Like, have them if you really want but make it so that you can't get diplomas from them or anything. They should be extracurricular only.
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Sounds good.
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I'm a pretty smug atheist when the topic of religion comes up, but this is still fucking stupid. As long as they're not teaching people to kill apostates/gays or to overthrow the secular systems in place, private institutions should be allowed to operate.

It's not a government's place to shut down an organization that doesn't want to teach whatever the government mandates public institutions teach. Idgaf if that means they'll deny evolution - that's a price worth paying for freedom to raise your children until they're old enough to do what they want.
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Will they ban the burka, hijab, chador and niqab next?
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Logos posted...

I'm a pretty smug atheist when the topic of religion comes up, but this is still fucking stupid. As long as they're not teaching people to kill apostates/gays or to overthrow the secular systems in place, private institutions should be allowed to operate.

It's not a government's place to shut down an organization that doesn't want to teach whatever the government mandates public institutions teach. Idgaf if that means they'll deny evolution - that's a price worth paying for freedom to raise your children until they're old enough to do what they want.

But the damage might be done by then by their dumb fucking parents. Childhood is supposed to be a time for learning and development, not 18 years to spend your life recovering from if you realize it. Child abuse is bad. You can choose to be a religious dumbfuck, not be doomed to it by nut bag parents.
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hockeybub89 posted...

But the damage might be done by then by their dumb f***ing parents. Childhood is supposed to be a time for learning and development, not 18 years to spend your life recovering from if you realize it. Child abuse is bad. You can choose to be a religious dumbf***, not be doomed to it by nut bag parents.

I'd rather parents who know their kids be allowed to parent their children than governments who don't know the kids.
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I love how all the tolerant liberals here would openly support a fascist dictatorship that would control every aspect of your life. Very progressive.

Guardian-Sloth posted...

I love how all the tolerant liberals here would openly support a fascist dictatorship that would control every aspect of your life. Very progressive.

thoughts on transgender bathroom laws?
thoughts on same sex marriage laws?
thoughts on abortion laws?

(hint: none of these are liberal standpoints)
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Guardian-Sloth posted...

I love how all the tolerant liberals here would openly support a fascist dictatorship that would control every aspect of your life. Very progressive.

I'm not sure what controls every aspect of folks lives more than religion. It's control for the sake of control. "Don't eat pork." "Why?" "Cause god hates it."

No fucking reason. Just "You will do this because I say you will do it and you will listen to me."
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Difference is those were heterosexual perverts, not transgender people. The bathroom bill isn't going to stop perverts from being perverts.

What does that have to do with anything? The policy makes it easier for them to get away with it straight or gay. I know you guys love to bring identity politics into everything but the simple fact is that it is irrelevant.

Looking at a translation of the actual article, it says they're holding private schools to the same educational standards as public schools, which includes no religious indoctrination. The topic title is intentionally misleading.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Guardian-Sloth posted...

I love how all the tolerant liberals here would openly support a fascist dictatorship that would control every aspect of your life. Very progressive.

I'm not sure what controls every aspect of folks lives more than religion. It's control for the sake of control. "Don't eat pork." "Why?" "Cause god hates it."

No fucking reason. Just "You will do this because I say you will do it and you will listen to me."

You have a very narrow view on religion.
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Dathrowed1 posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

Guardian-Sloth posted...

I love how all the tolerant liberals here would openly support a fascist dictatorship that would control every aspect of your life. Very progressive.

I'm not sure what controls every aspect of folks lives more than religion. It's control for the sake of control. "Don't eat pork." "Why?" "Cause god hates it."

No fucking reason. Just "You will do this because I say you will do it and you will listen to me."

You have a very narrow view on religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNkkko4vlBs
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I am not religious, but I still think it's wrong for the government to step in where they're not needed. Don't these schools have to maintain certain academic standards for accreditation anyway, in addition to hosting religious practices?
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Guardian-Sloth posted...

Difference is those were heterosexual perverts, not transgender people. The bathroom bill isn't going to stop perverts from being perverts.

What does that have to do with anything? The policy makes it easier for them to get away with it straight or gay. I know you guys love to bring identity politics into everything but the simple fact is that it is irrelevant.

No it doesn't, use your head. You somehow think that allowing transgender to use whatever restroom they feel comfortable in using makes doing illegal things legal. Fun fact, it doesn't. It doesn't legalize rape and it doesn't legalize perverted activity. If transgender were to break the law, they would get punished accordingly. Use critical thinking for fucks sakes.
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CircleOfManias posted...

Looking at a translation of the actual article, it says they're holding private schools to the same educational standards as public schools, which includes no religious indoctrination. The topic title is intentionally misleading.

The topic title is not misleading. It's more likely that the translation you read is inadequate. Schools with religious inslag will be banned. Inslag means like elements, streaks, features. So having any religious elements in school like religious practices, having religious symbols on the walls and so forth = banned.
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ManSpread posted...

Remind me, why is it considered a double-homicide if a pregnant woman is murdered?

lack of consent

Wait, so if the pregnant woman consents to abortion then the act magically becomes not a homicide? Lol, come on. Fetuses are not considered life, let alone deserving of human rights, by pro-abortion people, so the consent argument is really just a red herring. If anything, I have read that some pro-abortionists disagree with the double homicide label because they recognize that calling it a homicide for a fetus only makes sense if you backpedal and grant a fetus the status of human life with its own rights. At least those people are being consistent.
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The Prime-minister also want to change laws so refugees and immigrants can't just settle in whatever city etc they want. They shall be assigned a town.
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s0nicfan posted...

Good.

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