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Funployee
04/10/17 8:55:03 AM
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If yes why?


If no why?
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GunmaN1905
04/10/17 9:06:10 AM
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If you have a dick, you go to men's room.
If you don't, you go to ladies' room.

Can't get any simpler than that.
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Mystere
04/10/17 9:06:13 AM
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Sure. I use the bathroom before I leave home anyway. And if I do need to, I choose a small business that has a small one person restroom.
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Sayoria
04/10/17 10:28:58 AM
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Choco
04/10/17 10:30:29 AM
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there's no good reason to be against this
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/17 10:30:33 AM
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Yes, who cares?

Choco posted...
there's no good reason to be against this

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im not 13
04/10/17 10:32:21 AM
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Sure

But if my daughter is in there and someone walks in there I'm not comfortable with walks in after I'm going in myself

Fair is fair right?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/17 10:37:06 AM
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im not 13 posted...
and someone walks in there I'm not comfortable with


And why should society trust your judgment? Some people might not be comfortable with overly butch lesbians using the bathroom at the same time as their daughter.
Or blacks.
Your comfort level doesn't give you the right to raid the bathroom ffs. If you have a problem, call your daughter back out to wait until the trans-woman in finished. Yes, be that much of a dick if you want to be a dick.
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philsov
04/10/17 10:42:09 AM
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There is a greater than 99% chance that the transgendered person is just going to want to piss/poop and not draw any ire in the process.

So they should most certainly go into wherever they pass better as.

im not 13 posted...
But if my daughter is in there and someone walks in there I'm not comfortable with walks in after I'm going in myself


Are you worried she's going to get stolen out of the nonexistent backdoor, or possibly so distraught she's unable to cry for help?
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weapon_d00d816
04/10/17 10:42:20 AM
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You choose the bathroom that would freak out its users the least. It's got nothing to do with what's in your pants or what you identify as.
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Gossipgirl
04/10/17 10:44:12 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
You choose the bathroom that would freak out its users the least. It's got nothing to do with what's in your pants or what you identify as.

Pretty much.
If you pass there really shouldn't be a problem.
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Vindris_SNH
04/10/17 10:45:09 AM
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No, people should use the restroom that most closely fits their appearance. If people would guess you're probably a woman, use the women's restroom. If people would guess you're probably a man, use the men's restroom.
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Guardian-Sloth
04/10/17 10:49:03 AM
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What's to stop a man from dressing up as a woman and raping women in the women's bathroom?
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NihilistTurian
04/10/17 10:51:49 AM
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Guardian-Sloth posted...
What's to stop a man from dressing up as a woman and raping women in the women's bathroom?

What stops them now?

Some people are pretty good at cross dressing.
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lilORANG
04/10/17 10:52:57 AM
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Use the bathroom that is less likely to cause a ruckus.
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KingTumbleweed
04/10/17 10:53:11 AM
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Guardian-Sloth posted...
What's to stop a man from dressing up as a woman and raping women in the women's bathroom?

What difference would dressing make if they intended to break the law anyway?
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ReignFury
04/10/17 10:55:29 AM
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Might as well make them unisex
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philsov
04/10/17 11:03:28 AM
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Guardian-Sloth posted...
What's to stop a man from dressing up as a woman and raping women in the women's bathroom?


Lots of things, but this also has literally nothing to do with the question OP asked.
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:10:57 AM
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Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex, hence the design of urinals in men's rooms. Use the room that matches your biological sex and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/17 11:12:47 AM
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The Admiral posted...
and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.


You do the same. Derp.

No one is proposing that anyone take a shit in the urinal. Everyone can use regular toilets/stalls interchangeably.
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weapon_d00d816
04/10/17 11:13:44 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex, hence the design of urinals in men's rooms. Use the room that matches your biological sex and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.

Bathrooms are segregated to avoid public unrest first and foremost, not just to have an arbitrary matching game of genitals or gender identity with the sign on the door.
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:15:38 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Admiral posted...
and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.


You do the same. Derp.


I do. I leave them at the door and use the ones that have equipment designed for my genitalia. Doesn't get much simpler than that.
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lilORANG
04/10/17 11:16:28 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex, hence the design of urinals in men's rooms. Use the room that matches your biological sex and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.

Wait.....do you think transgender men with vaginas are going to try and squat over a urinal? Newsflash, bathrooms also have stalls where you can go in privacy if you wish. Your concern is not only unjustified, but actually really fucking stupid.
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/17 11:18:47 AM
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:19:51 AM
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lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex, hence the design of urinals in men's rooms. Use the room that matches your biological sex and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.

Wait.....do you think transgender men with vaginas are going to try and squat over a urinal? Newsflash, bathrooms also have stalls where you can go in privacy if you wish. Your concern is not only unjustified, but actually really fucking stupid.


I'll explain this to you slowly since you often struggle with comprehension.

There is no concern about someone with a vagina using a urinal, no. However, the reason the urinal is in the men's room in the first place is because that bathroom is designed for biological men, not people who are biologically women but have a different gender identity. It doesn't matter which of the 73 genders you think you are, bathrooms have nothing to do with your feelings and everything to do with your physical anatomy.
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Howl
04/10/17 11:20:05 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
If you have a dick, you go to men's room.
If you don't, you go to ladies' room.

Can't get any simpler than that.


What about people who had a dick but lost it in a gruesome accident of some sort?
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:20:45 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The Admiral posted...
Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex

If by "always" you mean "started around the Victorian era", sure.


By always I mean "in the lifetimes of everyone alive now," for clarity.
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weapon_d00d816
04/10/17 11:21:26 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The Admiral posted...
and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.


You do the same. Derp.


I do. I leave them at the door and use the ones that have equipment designed for my genitalia. Doesn't get much simpler than that.

ITP you can't piss in the stalls if you have a penis
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Sayoria
04/10/17 11:24:00 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex, hence the design of urinals in men's rooms. Use the room that matches your biological sex and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.


Again. Buck Angel. I dunno why people never take into consideration how stupid of an argument this is.

You can't omit the fact that trans people who actually look like the biological sex they portray visually would cause a massive stir-up in their biological bathroom.

Cmon Admiral. I figure you to be a smart guy. If you look like Buck or someone like Andrej Pejic, It is clear you'd never work in the biological bathroom.
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:25:01 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Guardian-Sloth posted...
What's to stop a man from dressing up as a woman and raping women in the women's bathroom?


What's stopping men from raping other men or boys in a men's room?


Sadly, nothing, as we saw in cases like Penn State when gay pedophiles had access to naked kids in a vulnerable situation. Since there are lot more heterosexual perverts and deviants, that's only an issue that would become exacerbated if biological men were allowed to be in locker rooms and bathrooms with naked girls and women.
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lilORANG
04/10/17 11:25:25 AM
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The Admiral posted...
There is no concern about someone with a vagina using a urinal, no. However, the reason the urinal is in the men's room in the first place is because that bathroom is designed for biological men, not people who are biologically women but have a different gender identity. It doesn't matter which of the 73 genders you think you are, bathrooms have nothing to do with your feelings and everything to do with your physical anatomy.


you seem to have that concern. Otherwise you wouldn't be making an argument appealing to an inconsequential tradition. So again, your concern is unjustified and incredibly stupid.
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DarkChozoGhost
04/10/17 11:25:28 AM
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Safety is the number one concern, and feelings should not even be taken into consideration

So obviously they should use the bathroom they identify as.
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glitteringfairy
04/10/17 11:26:18 AM
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Sayoria posted...
I use the women's room. Even did in Tennessee and never had an issue.

What's that supposed to mean
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:28:15 AM
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Sayoria posted...
Cmon Admiral. I figure you to be a smart guy. If you look like Buck or someone like Andrej Pejic, It is clear you'd never work in the biological bathroom.


I have no problem with someone who looks like Buck using the men's room. In fact, I have no problem with anyone who can pass for that sex using the bathroom they'd like. If no one can tell that your biological sex is different from your gender identity, it's a non-issue.

The problem is that "being passable" is never a legal requirement. So, the danger becomes the precedent that all some man needs to do is say "I identify as a woman" and is allowed access to the women's facilities without issue. So long as we have policies based on feelings without verification, this is a problem.

So, if you cannot pass for the gender you identity as, use the one that matches your physical sex. And if you can pass, use the one you want, since it's a non-issue.
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lilORANG
04/10/17 11:29:53 AM
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The Admiral posted...
So, the danger becomes the precedent that all some man needs to do is say "I identify as a woman" and is allowed access to the women's facilities without issue.

this guy thinks bathrooms have bouncers lol. Is he even talking about the same issue as everyone else?
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:31:21 AM
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lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
So, the danger becomes the precedent that all some man needs to do is say "I identify as a woman" and is allowed access to the women's facilities without issue.

this guy thinks bathrooms have bouncers lol. Is he even talking about the same issue as everyone else?


Well, I tried explaining my last post to you slowly, and you still respond with a dumb comment like this. Assuming you're not just trolling, I guess you're beyond hope.
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lilORANG
04/10/17 11:32:20 AM
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The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
So, the danger becomes the precedent that all some man needs to do is say "I identify as a woman" and is allowed access to the women's facilities without issue.

this guy thinks bathrooms have bouncers lol. Is he even talking about the same issue as everyone else?


Well, I tried explaining my last post to you slowly, and you still respond with a dumb comment like this. Assuming you're not just trolling, I guess you're beyond hope.

excellent response, Mr. I haven't made a good point all topic! Really flexing those brain muscles now.

As if people don't realize urinals are designed for dongs lol. You have no point. You're just afraid of people who are different than you.
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The Admiral
04/10/17 11:33:36 AM
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lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
So, the danger becomes the precedent that all some man needs to do is say "I identify as a woman" and is allowed access to the women's facilities without issue.

this guy thinks bathrooms have bouncers lol. Is he even talking about the same issue as everyone else?


Well, I tried explaining my last post to you slowly, and you still respond with a dumb comment like this. Assuming you're not just trolling, I guess you're beyond hope.

excellent response, Mr. I haven't made a good point all topic! Really flexing those brain muscles now.


The brain doesn't actually have any muscles, but this comment perfectly sums up your abilities and why I treat you the way I do.
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lilORANG
04/10/17 11:34:31 AM
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The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
So, the danger becomes the precedent that all some man needs to do is say "I identify as a woman" and is allowed access to the women's facilities without issue.

this guy thinks bathrooms have bouncers lol. Is he even talking about the same issue as everyone else?


Well, I tried explaining my last post to you slowly, and you still respond with a dumb comment like this. Assuming you're not just trolling, I guess you're beyond hope.

excellent response, Mr. I haven't made a good point all topic! Really flexing those brain muscles now.


The brain doesn't actually have any muscles, but this comment perfectly sums up your abilities and why I treat you the way I do.

because it allows you to change the topic and avoid owning up to being wrong? Yeah, you're welcome.
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bluezero
04/10/17 11:37:19 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Bathrooms are and always have been segregated by physical sex, hence the design of urinals in men's rooms. Use the room that matches your biological sex and leave your feelings about your gender at the door.

Bathrooms are segregated to avoid public unrest first and foremost, not just to have an arbitrary matching game of genitals or gender identity with the sign on the door.

Why not?
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Gamer99z
04/10/17 11:39:07 AM
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I don't care and if you're able to see someone's genitals when you're in the bathroom you're doing something wrong...
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SamsungGearS2
04/10/17 11:46:35 AM
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philsov posted...
There is a greater than 99% chance that the transgendered person is just going to want to piss/poop and not draw any ire in the process.

So they should most certainly go into wherever they pass better as.

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GunmaN1905
04/10/17 11:57:07 AM
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Howl posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
If you have a dick, you go to men's room.
If you don't, you go to ladies' room.

Can't get any simpler than that.


What about people who had a dick but lost it in a gruesome accident of some sort?


Idk about the US, but over here we have restrooms for disabled people everywhere. Right next to mens and ladies.
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Guardian-Sloth
04/10/17 12:17:32 PM
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Pretty much my point to the original question. Predatory people are going to be predatory, regardless of bathroom laws.


The difference is is women beat up a pervert who was spying on women in the bathroom, he could sue them saying he was transgender.
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Iain121
04/10/17 12:26:36 PM
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Why don't we have a bathroom just for trans people?
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GunmaN1905
04/10/17 12:30:03 PM
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Iain121 posted...
Why don't we have a bathroom just for trans people?


Why not have a bathroom just for gay people then?
Or people with bacteriophobia?
Etc etc

Bathrooms' primary use is for people to get rid of biological waste. It's a completely different matter that they've turned into something completely different these days.
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Solid Snake07
04/10/17 12:30:21 PM
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you should use whatever bathroom your not gonna cause a scene in
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