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AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 8:23:29 PM #1:	http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-forza-motorsport-on-project-scorpio-the-full-story <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876877397] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-forza-motorsport-on-project-scorpio-the-full-story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonAngeI 04/09/17 8:24:07 PM #2:	Oh it'll be as good as the thing I already have? Interesting. --- Why am I here? <cite>CrimsonAngeI posted [p:876877437] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>Oh it'll be as good as the thing I already have? Interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 8:24:19 PM #3:	if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876877449] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 8:24:43 PM #4:	CrimsonAngeI posted... Oh it'll be as good as the thing I already have? Interesting. It's a console, no matter how bad ass you make them, they're already obsolete by the time they hit market. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876877471] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonAngeI posted...</cite> <quote>Oh it'll be as good as the thing I already have? Interesting.</quote> It's a console, no matter how bad ass you make them, they're already obsolete by the time they hit market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ki_cat_ 04/09/17 8:25:06 PM #5:	Yay? Last I heard all the exclusives are coming to PC as well. --- People are afraid of what they don't understand. <cite>Ki_cat_ posted [p:876877497] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>Yay? Last I heard all the exclusives are coming to PC as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 04/09/17 8:25:45 PM #6:	Still no games. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:876877526] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>Still no games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 04/09/17 8:26:38 PM #7:	ChromaticAngel posted... CrimsonAngeI posted... Oh it'll be as good as the thing I already have? Interesting. It's a console, no matter how bad ass you make them, they're already obsolete by the time they hit market. --- https://i.imgur.com/mYLURVv.png http://i.imgur.com/Dj68WVS.gifv <cite>ManSpread posted [p:876877572] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonAngeI posted...</cite> <quote>Oh it'll be as good as the thing I already have? Interesting.</quote> It's a console, no matter how bad ass you make them, they're already obsolete by the time they hit market.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 8:28:09 PM #8:	Ki_cat_ posted... Yay? Last I heard all the exclusives are coming to PC as well. what PC are you playing RDR2 on? <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876877676] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ki_cat_ posted...</cite> <quote>Yay? Last I heard all the exclusives are coming to PC as well.</quote> what PC are you playing RDR2 on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 04/09/17 8:30:42 PM #9:	Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console. --- What's cooler than werewolf? Wereman! <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:876877816] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 8:33:13 PM #10:	Sami1000 posted... Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console. ITP Microsoft buys 1070s at retail prices. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876877950] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console.</quote> ITP Microsoft buys 1070s at retail prices.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ki_cat_ 04/09/17 8:33:43 PM #11:	I said exclusives. Rockstar doesn't like PC very much. --- People are afraid of what they don't understand. <cite>Ki_cat_ posted [p:876877977] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>I said exclusives. Rockstar doesn't like PC very much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 04/09/17 8:33:58 PM #12:	probably just as good as underclocked 1070 or on par with 1060 --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:876877989] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>probably just as good as underclocked 1070 or on par with 1060</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 8:37:20 PM #13:	ChromaticAngel posted... if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876878174] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it.</quote> Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 04/09/17 8:37:38 PM #14:	Sami1000 posted... Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console. the MSRP of the 1070 is $379 in the US --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:876878193] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console.</quote> the MSRP of the 1070 is $379 in the US</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 8:38:31 PM #15:	Darmik posted... ChromaticAngel posted... if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison. while being unoptimized and only using 66% of it's resources* <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876878249] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it.</quote> Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison.</quote> while being unoptimized and only using 66% of it's resources*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 04/09/17 8:40:16 PM #16:	ChromaticAngel posted... Sami1000 posted... Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console. ITP Microsoft buys 1070s at retail prices. Well, no shit, but it still doesn't mean they get those for free either. halomonkey1_3_5 posted... Sami1000 posted... Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console. the MSRP of the 1070 is $379 in the US I guess its possible then, but i still doubt it. 1060 is more believable. --- What's cooler than werewolf? Wereman! <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:876878335] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console.</quote> ITP Microsoft buys 1070s at retail prices.</quote> Well, no shit, but it still doesn't mean they get those for free either. <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>Bullshit. They are just trying to raise hype. Seeing that 1070 costs like 500€ in my country and probably around the same in US, no way it will reach that in console.</quote> the MSRP of the 1070 is $379 in the US</quote> I guess its possible then, but i still doubt it. 1060 is more believable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 8:40:35 PM #17:	Darmik posted... ChromaticAngel posted... if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison. a 1070 in isolation runs at approximately 6 teraflops which are the specs of the XB1 (1070 actually runs a little bit more, but not much more) And I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make (not counting intentionally graphically-lite games) so driving games always look way more realistic than other titles that are released around the same time. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876878358] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it.</quote> Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison.</quote> a 1070 in isolation runs at approximately 6 teraflops which are the specs of the XB1 (1070 actually runs a little bit more, but not much more) And I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make (not counting intentionally graphically-lite games) so driving games always look way more realistic than other titles that are released around the same time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/09/17 8:41:32 PM #18:	ChromaticAngel posted... nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make Why is this? --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:876878408] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make</quote> Why is this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 8:41:47 PM #19:	i have a question can the average PC gamer run games on ultra? does the average PC gamer even use 4k? i wonder <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876878418] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>i have a question can the average PC gamer run games on ultra? does the average PC gamer even use 4k? i wonder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 8:45:03 PM #20:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Darmik posted... ChromaticAngel posted... if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison. while being unoptimized and only using 66% of it's resources* I'm not saying it's not impressive but Eurogamer is just randomly comparing it to a completely different Forza game that's on PC. Something like Gears 4 is probably a better comparison to make since that game has a really good PC port and it's the exact same game. ChromaticAngel posted... a 1070 in isolation runs at approximately 6 teraflops which are the specs of the XB1 (1070 actually runs a little bit more, but not much more) By XB1 you mean the Scorpio right? 6 teraflops is for the entire Scorpio system as far as I know. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876878627] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>if the rumored specs are to be believed, they're correct, but I'll believe it when I see it.</quote> Not at all. The article only compares it to how Forza runs on a 1070. It's not really a genuine comparison.</quote> while being unoptimized and only using 66% of it's resources*</quote> I'm not saying it's not impressive but Eurogamer is just randomly comparing it to a completely different Forza game that's on PC. Something like Gears 4 is probably a better comparison to make since that game has a really good PC port and it's the exact same game. <cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>a 1070 in isolation runs at approximately 6 teraflops which are the specs of the XB1 (1070 actually runs a little bit more, but not much more)</quote> By XB1 you mean the Scorpio right? 6 teraflops is for the entire Scorpio system as far as I know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 04/09/17 8:47:32 PM #21:	Antifar posted... ChromaticAngel posted... nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make Why is this? Least amount of things happening on screen along with no complicated events all happening at once. --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:876878779] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make</quote> Why is this?</quote> Least amount of things happening on screen along with no complicated events all happening at once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 04/09/17 8:48:43 PM #22:	so the console is gonna cost $700? <cite>FightingGames posted [p:876878841] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>so the console is gonna cost $700?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 8:49:01 PM #23:	Antifar posted... Why is this? A car's skeletal structure generally doesn't bend or deform--because if it does the car is no longer driveable. Unrealistic car accidents have been a long time criticism of racing games, and Next Car Game is effectively a tech demo on how to actually create realistic collision physics, and people have all kinds of crazy fun wrecking cars in the game to see what happens. So with keeping in mind a very limited range of skeletal motion, and the fact that the environment itself has only minimal levels of interactivity, more time can be spent tricking out the textures and materials of the car and the road, or weather / lightning effects, because for the most part very little is being honestly animated in the same way that a character would be animated as he jumps or crouches or holds different weapons. Maybe you remember a few years back some guys promised this amazing tech engine with hyper photorealistic graphics at no processor cost that never went anywhere? well guess why that was? if you rewatch the videos, you'll see that nothing is animated at all. It's just a camera checking static things out from different angles. the engine was real, but there was no way to make a serious game out of it. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876878862] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this?</quote> A car's skeletal structure generally doesn't bend or deform--because if it does the car is no longer driveable. Unrealistic car accidents have been a long time criticism of racing games, and Next Car Game is effectively a tech demo on how to actually create realistic collision physics, and people have all kinds of crazy fun wrecking cars in the game to see what happens. So with keeping in mind a very limited range of skeletal motion, and the fact that the environment itself has only minimal levels of interactivity, more time can be spent tricking out the textures and materials of the car and the road, or weather / lightning effects, because for the most part very little is being honestly animated in the same way that a character would be animated as he jumps or crouches or holds different weapons. Maybe you remember a few years back some guys promised this amazing tech engine with hyper photorealistic graphics at no processor cost that never went anywhere? well guess why that was? if you rewatch the videos, you'll see that nothing is animated at all. It's just a camera checking static things out from different angles. the engine was real, but there was no way to make a serious game out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 04/09/17 8:49:14 PM #24:	Antifar posted... ChromaticAngel posted... nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make Why is this? Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:876878873] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make</quote> Why is this?</quote> Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 8:52:34 PM #25:	SiO4 posted... However, that can't really be said for open world driving games. They're comparing Forza 6 to Forza Apex. I believe Apex is a free to play game or something. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876879069] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>SiO4 posted...</cite> <quote>However, that can't really be said for open world driving games.</quote> They're comparing Forza 6 to Forza Apex. I believe Apex is a free to play game or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 8:54:46 PM #26:	SiO4 posted... Antifar posted... ChromaticAngel posted... nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make Why is this? Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games. https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/28/forza-horizon-3-xbox-one-visuals-near-identical-to-pcs-highest-setting-report/ hmmm <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876879225] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>SiO4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make</quote> Why is this?</quote> Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games.</quote> https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/28/forza-horizon-3-xbox-one-visuals-near-identical-to-pcs-highest-setting-report/ hmmm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 04/09/17 8:55:51 PM #27:	Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:876879288] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 8:56:50 PM #28:	Coffeebeanz posted... Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this they already said it will be fully announced before E3, so that should be all about games <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876879347] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this</quote> they already said it will be fully announced before E3, so that should be all about games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 04/09/17 8:58:03 PM #29:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this they already said it will be fully announced before E3, so that should be all about games Remember all the exclusives they announced at E3 2014 (that were cancelled) --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:876879430] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this</quote> they already said it will be fully announced before E3, so that should be all about games</quote> Remember all the exclusives they announced at E3 2014 (that were cancelled)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 04/09/17 8:59:35 PM #30:	Darmik posted... SiO4 posted... However, that can't really be said for open world driving games. They're comparing Forza 6 to Forza Apex. I believe Apex is a free to play game or something. Ya, I'm not sure. I've been somewhat out of the loop this gen. Though I am downloading Apex right now. So I'll check that out if it lets me play it. ((I don't feel like making some account for it.)) Having said that, I'm not sure how people can be unsatisfied or really worry about the graphics of today. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:876879526] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SiO4 posted...</cite> <quote>However, that can't really be said for open world driving games.</quote> They're comparing Forza 6 to Forza Apex. I believe Apex is a free to play game or something.</quote> Ya, I'm not sure. I've been somewhat out of the loop this gen. Though I am downloading Apex right now. So I'll check that out if it lets me play it. ((I don't feel like making some account for it.)) Having said that, I'm not sure how people can be unsatisfied or really worry about the graphics of today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 9:04:44 PM #31:	AlternativeFAQS posted... SiO4 posted... Antifar posted... ChromaticAngel posted... nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make Why is this? Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games. https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/28/forza-horizon-3-xbox-one-visuals-near-identical-to-pcs-highest-setting-report/ hmmm Forza Horizon 3 wasn't a great PC port framerate wise. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876879820] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SiO4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make</quote> Why is this?</quote> Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games.</quote> https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/28/forza-horizon-3-xbox-one-visuals-near-identical-to-pcs-highest-setting-report/ hmmm</quote> Forza Horizon 3 wasn't a great PC port framerate wise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 04/09/17 9:05:29 PM #32:	AlternativeFAQS posted... SiO4 posted... Antifar posted... ChromaticAngel posted... nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make Why is this? Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games. https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/28/forza-horizon-3-xbox-one-visuals-near-identical-to-pcs-highest-setting-report/ hmmm Ummn, I'm not really arguing anything. TBH, I was thinking back to the Dreamcast days, and why its racing library is so good. As of this moment I am a PC gamer, as the consoles this gen don't do much for me. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:876879871] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SiO4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>nd I hate driving games as benchmarks because they're shitty benchmarks. they're by far the least graphically demanding type of game to make</quote> Why is this?</quote> Because of the controlled environments. It's very easy to optimize for. However, that can't really be said for open world driving games.</quote> https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/28/forza-horizon-3-xbox-one-visuals-near-identical-to-pcs-highest-setting-report/ hmmm</quote> Ummn, I'm not really arguing anything. TBH, I was thinking back to the Dreamcast days, and why its racing library is so good. As of this moment I am a PC gamer, as the consoles this gen don't do much for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 9:11:24 PM #33:	no one answered my question about average PC gamers <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876880244] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>no one answered my question about average PC gamers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 9:16:54 PM #34:	AlternativeFAQS posted... no one answered my question about average PC gamers The most popular graphics card on Steam for dedicated gamers (so not including an intel integrated card) is apparently the GTX 970. So yeah most are probably playing on high/ultra. 4k? Still a minority. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876880611] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>no one answered my question about average PC gamers</quote> The most popular graphics card on Steam for dedicated gamers (so not including an intel integrated card) is apparently the GTX 970. So yeah most are probably playing on high/ultra. 4k? Still a minority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 9:17:25 PM #35:	AlternativeFAQS posted... no one answered my question about average PC gamers no one here is qualified to answer questions about the average PC gamer. Most of us only speak to enthusiasts. I can tell you that I can run 4K as well as all of my friends who have PCs, but I don't know about the average. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876880647] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>no one answered my question about average PC gamers</quote> no one here is qualified to answer questions about the average PC gamer. Most of us only speak to enthusiasts. I can tell you that I can run 4K as well as all of my friends who have PCs, but I don't know about the average.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 9:19:08 PM #36:	Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... no one answered my question about average PC gamers The most popular graphics card on Steam for dedicated gamers (so not including an intel integrated card) is apparently the GTX 970. So yeah most are probably playing on high/ultra. 4k? Still a minority. dedicated gamers on Steam are not average PC gamers <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876880747] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>no one answered my question about average PC gamers</quote> The most popular graphics card on Steam for dedicated gamers (so not including an intel integrated card) is apparently the GTX 970. So yeah most are probably playing on high/ultra. 4k? Still a minority.</quote> dedicated gamers on Steam are not average PC gamers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 9:22:05 PM #37:	I'm just going to guess and go out on a limb here and say the average PC gamer is playing an MMO or a MOBA, OR CS:GO/TF2/Overwatch all with very low requirements and probably doesn't need an insanely powerful card and they likely don't play much else. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876880937] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>I'm just going to guess and go out on a limb here and say the average PC gamer is playing an MMO or a MOBA, OR CS:GO/TF2/Overwatch all with very low requirements and probably doesn't need an insanely powerful card and they likely don't play much else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 9:23:34 PM #38:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... no one answered my question about average PC gamers The most popular graphics card on Steam for dedicated gamers (so not including an intel integrated card) is apparently the GTX 970. So yeah most are probably playing on high/ultra. 4k? Still a minority. dedicated gamers on Steam are not average PC gamers https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/04/valves-steam-survey-windows-10-is-popular-vr-is-not/ Whether it's a system playing predominately DirectX 10, 11 or 12 games, the end result is the same: NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 970 is the most popular GPU among enthusiast gamers. It's not the most common GPU across the whole platform - that's the HD 4000, the integrated GPU that shipped with Intel's Ivy Bridge CPUs around 2012 and early 2013. But for gamers who want something a bit more, the GTX 970 is the way to go. It's the top GPU amongst DX10, DX11 and DX12 systems, with the affordable GTX 960 runner up for older PCs. For PCs on Windows 10 playing DX12 games, the GTX 1060 and GTX 1070 have become the second and third most popular GPUs. The results are a good snapshot of what PCs use the further you go down the list: there are more people, for instance, running the mobile variant of the GTX 960 than the high-end GTX 1080. The GTX 970 is also the most popular GPU among Linux users, beating out the HD 4000 and HD 4400. As for AMD's Polaris GPUs? The RX 480 is only used by 0.70% of respondents on Windows 10 PCs, and 0.81% of respondents on all variants on Windows. The real interesting part here is where the HD 7700, HD 7900 and HD 8800 GPUs, cards that are five and four years old respectively, was more commonplace in the survey than last year's RX 480. For PC gamers, that's a long time between upgrades. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876881047] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>no one answered my question about average PC gamers</quote> The most popular graphics card on Steam for dedicated gamers (so not including an intel integrated card) is apparently the GTX 970. So yeah most are probably playing on high/ultra. 4k? Still a minority.</quote> dedicated gamers on Steam are not average PC gamers</quote> https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/04/valves-steam-survey-windows-10-is-popular-vr-is-not/ <quote>Whether it's a system playing predominately DirectX 10, 11 or 12 games, the end result is the same: NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 970 is the most popular GPU among enthusiast gamers. It's not the most common GPU across the whole platform - that's the HD 4000, the integrated GPU that shipped with Intel's Ivy Bridge CPUs around 2012 and early 2013. But for gamers who want something a bit more, the GTX 970 is the way to go. It's the top GPU amongst DX10, DX11 and DX12 systems, with the affordable GTX 960 runner up for older PCs. For PCs on Windows 10 playing DX12 games, the GTX 1060 and GTX 1070 have become the second and third most popular GPUs. The results are a good snapshot of what PCs use the further you go down the list: there are more people, for instance, running the mobile variant of the GTX 960 than the high-end GTX 1080. The GTX 970 is also the most popular GPU among Linux users, beating out the HD 4000 and HD 4400. As for AMD's Polaris GPUs? The RX 480 is only used by 0.70% of respondents on Windows 10 PCs, and 0.81% of respondents on all variants on Windows. The real interesting part here is where the HD 7700, HD 7900 and HD 8800 GPUs, cards that are five and four years old respectively, was more commonplace in the survey than last year's RX 480. For PC gamers, that's a long time between upgrades.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 04/09/17 9:29:11 PM #39:	Coffeebeanz posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this they already said it will be fully announced before E3, so that should be all about games Remember all the exclusives they announced at E3 2014 (that were cancelled) Did someone from Microsoft kill your parents? --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:876881379] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Microsoft should've announced some exclusives before unveiling this</quote> they already said it will be fully announced before E3, so that should be all about games</quote> Remember all the exclusives they announced at E3 2014 (that were cancelled)</quote> Did someone from Microsoft kill your parents?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 9:29:25 PM #40:	Darmik posted... For PCs on Windows 10 playing DX12 games, <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876881393] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>For PCs on Windows 10 playing DX12 games,</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 9:31:04 PM #41:	Darmik posted... among enthusiast gamers. <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876881483] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>among enthusiast gamers.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ki_cat_ 04/09/17 9:33:30 PM #42:	I don't think dedicated gamers are the average so...No. People don't typically run stuff on Ultra let alone 4K. --- People are afraid of what they don't understand. <cite>Ki_cat_ posted [p:876881610] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>I don't think dedicated gamers are the average so...No. People don't typically run stuff on Ultra let alone 4K.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 04/09/17 9:42:54 PM #43:	A future console will be as powerful as the current midtier PC gpu. Wow. So exciting. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:876882172] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>A future console will be as powerful as the current midtier PC gpu. Wow. So exciting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 9:43:39 PM #44:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... A future console will be as powerful as the current midtier PC gpu. Wow. So exciting. it is actually kind of exciting as previously consoles were as powerful as the midtier PC GPU from 3 generations ago. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876882221] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote>A future console will be as powerful as the current midtier PC gpu. Wow. So exciting.</quote> it is actually kind of exciting as previously consoles were as powerful as the midtier PC GPU from 3 generations ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 9:43:51 PM #45:	current mid-tier PCs can play racing new racing games at 4k 60fps? <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876882239] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>current mid-tier PCs can play racing new racing games at 4k 60fps?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/09/17 9:44:56 PM #46:	AlternativeFAQS posted... current mid-tier PCs can play racing new racing games at 4k 60fps? yes. a mid tier PC gpu was able to play DOOM at 4k60. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876882314] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>current mid-tier PCs can play racing new racing games at 4k 60fps?</quote> yes. a mid tier PC gpu was able to play DOOM at 4k60.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 04/09/17 9:45:55 PM #47:	on ultra settings??? <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:876882381] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>on ultra settings???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/09/17 9:49:16 PM #48:	If people are expecting the Scorpio to equal a gaming PC with a GTX1070 they're gonna be disappointed. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:876882603] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>If people are expecting the Scorpio to equal a gaming PC with a GTX1070 they're gonna be disappointed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slip-N-Slide 04/09/17 9:50:06 PM #49:	ChromaticAngel posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... current mid-tier PCs can play racing new racing games at 4k 60fps? yes. a mid tier PC gpu was able to play DOOM at 4k60. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxftTXJSVVE --- Get wet. http://i.imgtc.com/2q3z3TmhFO.jpg <cite>Slip-N-Slide posted [p:876882647] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote> current mid-tier PCs can play racing new racing games at 4k 60fps?</quote> yes. a mid tier PC gpu was able to play DOOM at 4k60.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxftTXJSVVE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 04/09/17 10:37:13 PM #50:	is getting Forza 7 on PC --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:876885148] in Eurogamer ... [t:75218794]...</cite> <quote>is getting Forza 7 on PC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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