Current Events > Remember, prioritizing Christian refugees is bigoted.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/09/middleeast/egypt-church-explosion/index.html
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More Muslims have been killed by ISIS and Islamic terrorists than any other religion.

So yes, I'd say this attack making you feel bad when you couldn't give less of a fuck about dead Muslims is pretty bigoted.
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It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.

I bet the people against this are also against affirmative action.

If there are gonna be refugees, there should be an equal cross section of people.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.

By bringing in people who share a common religion you will have less issues with integrating into society.

Bringing Christians to a mostly christian nation is an easier and more comfortable situation. Bringing Muslims to a christian nation is going to result in tension between the religions.
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Because it's the christians who are more likely to be terrorists in disguise, or later become radicalized, right?

Didn't Christians kill Jesus?!?
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Guardian-Sloth posted...

Because it's the christians who are more likely to be terrorists in disguise, or later become radicalized, right?

In America? Absolutely.
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...

Didn't Christians kill Jesus?!?

Is this a joke?

Polytheistic Romans and Jews killed Jesus.

3rd_Best_Master posted...

Guardian-Sloth posted...

Because it's the christians who are more likely to be terrorists in disguise, or later become radicalized, right?

In America? Absolutely.

no
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ROD posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

Guardian-Sloth posted...

Because it's the christians who are more likely to be terrorists in disguise, or later become radicalized, right?

In America? Absolutely.

no

Yes.
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MaverickXeo posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.

By bringing in people who share a common religion you will have less issues with integrating into society.

Bringing Christians to a mostly christian nation is an easier and more comfortable situation. Bringing Muslims to a christian nation is going to result in tension between the religions.

Is this trolling?
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RighteousTip posted...

Is this trolling?

it's true though. it might be uncomfortable to face, but it's true. people of the same faith usually get along better than people of different faiths

Zikten posted...

RighteousTip posted...

Is this trolling?

it's true though. it might be uncomfortable to face, but it's true. people of the same faith usually get along better than people of different faiths

But people of similar religions and cultures generally hang together. As refugees, they are trying to escape the extreme sides of that religion, they don't share the same extreme religious mindsets.
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Zikten posted...

RighteousTip posted...

Is this trolling?

it's true though. it might be uncomfortable to face, but it's true. people of the same faith usually get along better than people of different faiths

We already have millions of refugees living in the country. I keep hearing about possible issues and I keep seeing people pointing to Europe as if our situations were similar, but what I don't see is this issue that some people seemingly wish would happen in this country, actually happening. I see a handful of 2nd generation Muslims doing stuff, but none from actual refugees.
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RebelElite791 posted...

More Muslims have been killed by ISIS and Islamic terrorists than any other religion.

So yes, I'd say this attack making you feel bad when you couldn't give less of a fuck about dead Muslims is pretty bigoted.

Yeah but these Christian cultures literallly face the risk of being wiped out. I dont see why prioritizing saving cultures that could literally go extinct is wrong
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The problem is mostly on our side. Our super bigoted Christian citizens who don't have open hearts and willing to help people have a better life over here.
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Saloonist posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

More Muslims have been killed by ISIS and Islamic terrorists than any other religion.

So yes, I'd say this attack making you feel bad when you couldn't give less of a f*** about dead Muslims is pretty bigoted.

Yeah but these Christian cultures literallly face the risk of being wiped out. I dont see why prioritizing saving cultures that could literally go extinct is wrong

Does this apply to shia and sunni Muslims in regions where they're the minority as well?
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

Saloonist posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

More Muslims have been killed by ISIS and Islamic terrorists than any other religion.

So yes, I'd say this attack making you feel bad when you couldn't give less of a f*** about dead Muslims is pretty bigoted.

Yeah but these Christian cultures literallly face the risk of being wiped out. I dont see why prioritizing saving cultures that could literally go extinct is wrong

Does this apply to shia and sunni Muslims in regions where they're the minority as well?

Sure thing. It doesn't even have to apply to Abrahamic religions.

I would support prioritizing other minorities like the Yazidis because these genocidal maniacs could literally destroy them.

I do think there is some bigotry in the fact that so much was made about the endangerment of the Yazidis but very little about Middle Eastern Christians though.
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2 Timothy 3:12 (NLT)
"Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution."
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RebelElite791 posted...

More Muslims have been killed by ISIS and Islamic terrorists than any other religion.

So yes, I'd say this attack making you feel bad when you couldn't give less of a fuck about dead Muslims is pretty bigoted.

...Do...do you understand how idiotic a comment this is? Yes, obviously the religion that makes up over 99% of a country in many cases is going to be the most common victims of mass murderers. Doesn't mean Christians and Jews in these regions are more targeted, not that I necessarily think it should mean anything in terms of asylum...not that it shouldn't either. Depends on how much more they are specifically being targeted. If they are obviously going to be wiped, I can see taking them in, but at a certain point the west and especially America can't be the nanny for the rest of the world.

At a certain point we need to get out and let them kill each other till there is an enlightenment. It sounds harsh, but nothing else works, and they obviously don't want democracy over religious law. Especially not enough to fight over.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

ROD posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

Guardian-Sloth posted...

Because it's the christians who are more likely to be terrorists in disguise, or later become radicalized, right?

In America? Absolutely.

no

Yes.

By percentage or raw numbers?

The former is obviously untrue, and the latter still seems untrue. How many major killings by radical Christian groups are there? You have pulse and San Bernardino of the two that are really recent...what are the Christian's committing mass murder for Jesus?
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99% of refugees are Muslim, IIRC. Even though Christians make up nearly 10% of the victims. Christians are disproportionately denied refugee status.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

Saloonist posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

More Muslims have been killed by ISIS and Islamic terrorists than any other religion.

So yes, I'd say this attack making you feel bad when you couldn't give less of a f*** about dead Muslims is pretty bigoted.

Yeah but these Christian cultures literallly face the risk of being wiped out. I dont see why prioritizing saving cultures that could literally go extinct is wrong

Does this apply to shia and sunni Muslims in regions where they're the minority as well?

They are a minority in way different numbers, and the issue of assimilation is a much bigger concern. These are people who have a medieval belief system. They have done poll after poll about the commonality of beliefs and they are never encouraging. Not to mention they just don't believe in Democracy. It should be obvious by now. Difference is these two sects are continently on the attack against each other, these Christians are completely on the defense and could face extinction. I'm not even saying that we have a duty, or getting involved is right at this moment, but you are bringing up a false equivalency.

Look, I would be the same way if I grew up in that situation most likely. It is repressed people where Sharia has a monopoly on belief, there is abject poverty, tons of violence, and people don't understand there aren't just cities everywhere. People live isolated so much of the time, that has a big effect as well. They are completely isolated with extreme teachings.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.

That's exactly what should be happening (the prioritizing). Refugees are explicitly supposed to be prioritized based on level of threat (to them). A religious minority in a war torn country should ALWAYS be given priority because they're the most likely to be killed. It doesn't matter what the religion is, that's literally how these things are supposed to work.
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RighteousTip posted...

The problem is mostly on our side. Our super bigoted Christian citizens who don't have open hearts and willing to help people have a better life over here.

I don't like Christianity or religion at all, but it is ignorant to say that considering American Christians are the most charitable people in the world. If you think they are bigoted, which I agree with, but what do you think of the beliefs of these people from the Islamic world?
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s0nicfan posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.

That's exactly what should be happening (the prioritizing). Refugees are explicitly supposed to be prioritized based on level of threat (to them). A religious minority in a war torn country should ALWAYS be given priority because they're the most likely to be killed. It doesn't matter what the religion is, that's literally how these things are supposed to work.

Yeah, I agree with DarkChozo. We should put priority on Canadians just as much as minority's from war torn nations!

Seriously though. I think America being the nanny of the world is getting old, we have over extended ourselves, and there has to be a point where the entire west says no and force these people to have their own enlightenment and stop interfering, cause for the most part what we do is the opposite of helping.
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RighteousTip posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

It was a horrible attack. But there's no reason they should be prioritized, and it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to take advantage of this tragedy to justify turning away refugees.

By bringing in people who share a common religion you will have less issues with integrating into society.

Bringing Christians to a mostly christian nation is an easier and more comfortable situation. Bringing Muslims to a christian nation is going to result in tension between the religions.

Is this trolling?

Not trolling; its pretty obvious what happens. I am not saying that Muslims cause problems; christians can too. It creates a tension between people when you do not share the same views.
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Vindris_SNH posted...

2 Timothy 3:12 (NLT)
"Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution."

Yeah I'm sure there's persecution of Christians here in America when they're the majority and hold the majority power in politics.
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Logos posted...

99% of refugees are Muslim, IIRC. Even though Christians make up nearly 10% of the victims. Christians are disproportionately denied refugee status.

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