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Eerieka
04/09/17 5:02:43 AM
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ONCE MORE: SPOILERS ARE WELCOME. PLEASE POST SPOILERS FOR UMINEKO. ONLY USE SPOILER TAGS IF YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE

The Merry Misadventures of Arria on Rokkenjima: an Umineko playthrough

Greetings, people of GameFAQs. I’ve been an avid lurker for a very long time now. I know you guys like Umineko playthroughs, so I’m hoping you’ll enjoy this as well since it’s a different perspective than you’re used to.

First of all, I want to state that spoilers are absolutely allowed and welcome. I (Kira) will be the one posting and replying to everyone. Arria won’t be viewing the topic until she’s done. Which is another thing, we only play when we’re together, and we only see each other every few weeks. So… it may be a very, very long time before we get anywhere. For that reason, I ask that you don’t bump the topic. Let it purge. I’ll save everything I type and relevant discussion in a Google Docs, then link to that in subsequent topics.

I want to give you all a fair warning about us. We’re both women in our late 20s, both in happy relationships with men, and both have strong opinions about, well, lots of things. Arria in particular can be very dirty, especially with sex jokes.

We (well, her more than I) are into cosplay and I once suggested to her that she and I and two of our mutual friends should cosplay as the four mothers. This may be mentioned a few times.

Arria will be going in (fairly) blind. I am rereading it after many years. While the game was installing, I asked Arria what she already knew about the game. I knew she’d watched an episode of the anime way back when, so I thought she’d be going in with some previous knowledge. Things Arria is aware of already: main character is named Battler and he’s a redhead. Since he’s a main character, she thinks she won’t like him. “Something to do with a painting” and that she wants us to cosplay as the mothers. The one I want her to cosplay as is a brunette with a Victorian purple dress. “Something about a witch”. Oh, and Umineko means ‘seagull’. A character in ep 3 that she’ll like because “she knows there’s a butler” (Kira note: Ronove, but I didn’t tell her anything else about him). It’s a mystery “of some sort”. It’s probably just going to “give the finger” to things like physics. A Clue-esque aspect/we’re on the island for a reason/people are going to die. She thinks it will eat her life for the next 5 years because I’ve warned her how long it is. After I reminded her, she remembered that I told her before that any scene without Battler may be symbolic rather than literal.

Yes, I know that last line is probably a bit controversial, but it was an executive decision that I made because I wanted to throw Arria a bone. I also wanted to see what crack-pot theories she’d come up with.
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Eerieka
04/09/17 5:03:12 AM
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Kira’s predictions on how Arria will feel about the characters (episode 1 only). In general: Arria has a ‘thing’ for older men. I would normally think that she’ll have a ‘thing’ for Umineko’s older men, but I think the older men in this series are just terrible enough that she’ll want to like them, then fail miserably and end up hating them. Exception: she’ll hate Krauss on principle because he’ll remind her of Trump (who she’s not a big fan of. Let’s try not to discuss politics, though).

Kinzo: she’ll appreciate how fucked up crazy he is and how devoted he is to his love, but probably won’t like him because of what a jackass he is.

Krauss: will hate him on principle because he reminds her of Trump.

Natsuhi: will try to like her because she’s the one that I want her to cosplay as. Will dislike her at first, but will grow to like her as the episode progresses.

Eva: may hate her at first, and will probably continue to hate her throughout ep 1. Will appreciate her later.

Hideyoshi: will probably like him, especially when she learns of the sacrifice he made so that Eva could keep her family name. But won’t make a big impression.

Rudolf: will try to like him because he’s an older male. Will grow to hate him because of what a jackass he was to his first wife. Will also suspect him of being up to no good when he mentions that he knows he’ll die before the first twilight.

Kyrie: will think she’s a badass and probably be an early favorite.

Rosa: this one I don’t know, because I don’t know how she’ll handle Rosa and Maria’s relationship. She will either cheer Rosa on because she hates Maria and also wants to slap her, or she’ll think Rosa is the worst because child abuse is never okay.

Battler: Will think he’s an obnoxious dumbass at first. This probably won’t change until later eps. Will probably grow to like him much later.

George: will respect that he’s in love with Shannon, but will probably think he’s just ‘meh’. Like, neither super likeable or hateable.

Jessica: will probably like her for being spunky and fair toward the servants.

Maria: unsure about this. Will probably be annoyed at first. Will think she’s an ‘annoying anime girl’ and probably fall into the trap that Ryukishi just doesn’t know how to write little girls. Will probably stay annoyed at her, but at least understand that she’s ‘special’.

Genji: will probably like him because she has a thing for older men and butlers.

Shannon: will probably like her and feel sorry for her terrible treatment in ep 1.

Kanon: will probably think he’s a weird fuck due to his obsession with ‘furniture’. May never get over this.

Kumasawa: will probably get real sick of the mackerel jokes real fast.

Nanjo: will probably not have any strong opinion either way.

Gohda: same as Nanjo, will probably not have a strong opinion either way.


I’m curious how she’ll feel about the music. I’ve told her that the music is awesome, but she didn’t remember that when I asked her what she remembered.

I told her not to bother trying to solve the riddle because it requires knowledge of Japanese. While I want her to ‘think’ I don’t want her to go insane trying to solve something she’ll never figure out.

I, Kira, will be paying special attention to Shannon and Kanon, namely the fact that they shouldn’t ever be together in the same scene with Battler. I’m not sure what other things I should be looking for on a reread, but I’ll make my own comments as we go.

Victory! We got the PS3 sprites! Huzzah!
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Eerieka
04/09/17 5:05:13 AM
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A: “Battler could be my paladin’s son with that color of hair and that expression”

Arria plays a lot of DnD/WoW/I don’t even know what else. She’s probably referring to a character that she uses for multiple games.

A: Hell of a way to start. “Love of alcohol” How did he get this from a stethoscope? Your liver is screaming!

Game: “Larger than what most people would call a study”
A: most people don’t have fucking knights in their study.

In response to Kinzo being Kinzo. A: You sir, have a problem.

I told her that the original translation mentions absinthe, and she said the old man’s pretty hardcore.

She needs to take a moment to discuss Kinzo’s outfit. She really likes the red and purple tie/shirt, and the wing is awesome. But thinks he needs to ditch the robe “You’re not a wizard.” (I laugh) “Or if you are, this will be significantly more entertaining”. Also, if you’re going to wear a robe, don’t wear an admiral’s uniform underneath it.” She also likes to think he’s wearing a ponytail because it “increases his hotness” (didn’t know she liked them THAT old).

Nanjo is “possibly a walrus”. Thinks this is all happening in Kinzo’s head after drinking too much absinthe and is now staggering along the beach, waxing poetic at a walrus.

Genji. She approves of the firebird design, but questions why it’s half a bird. If Nanjo is a walrus, Genji is something else you find on a beach. “Either an octopus or a turtle, I’m thinking turtle.”

Nanjo: I have done nothing…
Arria: because I am a walrus

A: there’s a difference between ‘you’re dying’ and ‘don’t move your king’

A: what does a man have to go through to decide ‘fuck it, pass me another beer?’ Lost love? Ruined fortune? Parents beat you as a child?

After the vulture line. A: Dude, you need to have more sex. Like, a lot of it. You have two hands. Use them.

A: Why do I get the feeling the bitter old man is gonna use his will to fuck with everyone? Probably cuz that’s what I would do at this point.

Things Kinzo wants to communicate. A: “I hate you all and I hope you all die of the plague. To do this, I’ve coated this letter in Y. pestis.”

She leaned back at mention of the witch. “Sweetie, you’re not convincing your doctor that you’re NOT crazy. Hell, you’re not convincing THE AUDIENCE that you’re crazy. Though for an 80 year old, you’re not bad looking. Yes, GameFAQs, I’m crazy.”

She keeps saying that Kinzo is about to die of a heart attack while he’s rambling. He limps over “See? He died of a heart attack! Alternatively, his Prozac kicked in.”

(Kira note: this may actually be when he dies, for all I know).

She’s going to refer to Kinzo as “Dear Idiot” from here on out, which she says is a reference to the Dresden Files. This may be a very small, subtle reference that only makes sense to her, so don’t think about it too hard.

Kinzo talking about his soul being consumed. A: This, children, is why we don’t summon demons. You should have thought of this already.

(Note: we just finished watching Re Zero so she makes references to Beatrice being the loli in the library.) “Dear Idiot, you need to get out of the library.”

A: Dude, you’ve reached a level of crazy I don’t feel comfortable calling you Dear Idiot anymore. The walrus is getting his syringe ready!” (she motions pretending Nanjo is about to drug Kinzo and put him out of his misery) “This man needs ALL the therapy.”
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Eerieka
04/09/17 5:06:04 AM
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HOLY CRAP THAT OPENING SPOILED EVERYTHING. Luckily Arria is either an idiot or a idiot savant who didn’t catch anything important. Everything is either: “and the murderer is…!” or “enchantment!” (voice mimicking the kid from Dragon Age Origins).

George. “And here we have normal clothing. I don’t approve of the piss-vomit color though”

“shady mail-order performance drugs” A: Either steroids or he’s popping Viagra like they’re M&Ms. The next line “look how big you’ve grown Battler!” becomes infinitely more funnier if you’re pretending he’s popping Viagra.

A: I’ve literally had a rant about how fucking weird your name is. It boils down to ‘this is why we don’t give women the happy pills until after they’ve named the kid.’

We actually did discuss that before playing. She said that Battler is a weird fucking name, and I just said that it’ll be explained. Also, I think it’s pretty badass myself.

We then look up naming laws in other countries, which was amusing for us. Also shocked when Battler mentioned that government workers and his parents are at the top of his to-kill list.

Hideyoshi appears. A: Well you must not be part of the family. You’re not wearing your bird.

I’m proud she noticed that. When Eva appears. A: That’s his wife? Dayum, he must be loaded… and she went full bird.

A: I could totally see him (Hideyoshi) on all fours with a ball gag while his wife whips him. I don’t think he wears the pants in this relationship

On Eva. Arria: “Why are your gloves two different heights?” me: she needs to show off her bird. Arria: that makes sense.

A: Um dude, I think your aunt is hitting on you.

A: I would fuck George before I’d fuck Battler, as long as they were naked when I walked in the room. I don’t like that disgusting puke-green suit.

Kyrie. A: Wow. Fuck. If you’re at all a badass, I’m gonna like you.
I read to her my prediction.
A: Well, I’m just gonna sit here and drink my tea.

Battler makes some noise and she flips out. A: What the fuck is that noise? That’s not human! Unless you’re eating a pie. Not if you’re talking about your father!

Mention of Rudolf taking a while in the bathroom. A: This isn’t a story I want to know. I imagine it involves her (Kyrie) and a plunger. Also reminds me of stories with my own husband…

At the jokes about Rudolf taking pornos in the bathroom. A: Are you kidding? Have you SEEN his wife? The only ejaculation he needs to do involves her!

Then Kyrie basically mirrors what she just said. A: Holy shit, this is my bitch! This bitch is my bitch!

A: What kind of fucked up family do you have?

this is gonna be repeated A LOT

Rudolf appears. A: Eh, you got the Aizen hair, but otherwise you’re not bad looking.

A: Did you just enter the Konami code on your son?

A: My headcanon is that these two are fucking.
Later… A: I think the WHOLE family is fucking one another.

Ange is mentioned lol. Man, how many people forget she exists until she appears again in ep 3?

Arria just casually asked if Kinzo was alive and I casually said ‘yeah’ hoping that she didn’t notice how freaked out I was thinking I would give away the fact that he’s not. I used to not have much of a poker face, but I think I’ve improved enough that she didn’t catch on.

A: Why do I think these two are smiling as they stab each other? (Rudolf and Eva)

Battler: “I hope I never turn out like that old bastard.”
Arria: “I’ve known you for an hour and you’re already turning into your father.”
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Eerieka
04/09/17 1:15:02 PM
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Maria. A: She’s wearing a crown… (She also thought Maria was older than she turned out to be.)
Rosa. A: Yeah, you’d make a good Rosa. (talking about the cosplay)

Mention of George being a dad someday. A: Hopefully in a few years. 23 is a little young to marry.

I mentioned that Maria is voiced by Yui Horie. We just finished Re Zero and we’re currently watching Dog Days as well, so I mentioned Horie’s roles there. I told her that I think Horie sounds good as a loli and when she sings, but not so great as teenager/adult characters. She soon agreed that she sounds great as Maria A: my compliments to the voice actress.

More mention of weird names. Why did Grandfather name us? A: He probably named you. Hell, he probably is your father. Your whole family is incestuous.

As Battler is freaking out on the airplane. A: Someone please drug him, please.

Eva mentions inviting Battler to Egypt. A: Please tell me somewhere on the internet is porn of Eva fucking him against a pyramid. Oh god, now his step-mom is trying to sell him to a dominatrix. This bitch is so fucking awesome.

She asked about Maria’s uu. A: “Does she end every sentence with that?” K: “maybe.”

Jessica appears. A: Oh look, we found the action girl. Oh, and her name is Jessica. The only way I could hate her more is if her name was [name of girl she hated at school whose name is close to Jessica].

A: Every time I make incestuous jokes, the game is like ‘let me touch your boobs.’ It’s not funny if the game does it, too!

A: She has a nickname for his penis…. You share 1/4th of your genetic information. Please stop flirting! Also, why elephant-san? Why not ‘kun’?” (she goes on for like a minute about how fucking weird everything has been so far)

Kumasawa. A: generic Japanese lady. Alternatively, a shinigami. (from Bleach. She noticed the shirt under Kumasawa’s apron looks like a shinigami outfit.) After Kumasawa gets kinky with him, A: yep, she’s a shinigami and planning to kill him. (She then accused me of putting something in her tea.) Also, A: This lady needs a vibrator or 12. (She then suggests that Kumasawa and Kinzo fuck since they both need it.) A: If she’s bad at her job, maybe she IS fucking the old man and that’s why he keeps her around.

She thinks Rosa is too nice. She expects Rosa to go “crazy at dinner.” She thinks Rosa will poison everyone. She’ll find a way to poison everyone and the only freshwater on the island for the next 1000 years.

Makes a reference to a book called Anita Blake in which a character named Rudolf is the head of a police department and now wants to pretend that this Rudolf is also a police chief.

A: 2 to 1 he blows chunks (as they’re talking about the damn boat.)

(while Battler is freaking the fuck out) A: Daisuke Ono probably just blew out a vocal cord

Battler: “I want to die on land, not in the air or sky.”
Arria: “Hahaha, remember you said that.”

Mention of Kyrie holding Rudolf’s reins. A:Well they’re into pony play…

Maria gets creepy. A: Of course the creepy child would do this.

Gohda. A: He’s too happy. Reminds me of Ichimaru Gin (from Bleach). I want to like him. He’s well dressed and strong. I like a big man.
K: the ‘big’ thing is meant to mean he’s fat.
A: his sprite looks like he’s strong and he’s got nice, broad shoulders!
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Eerieka
04/09/17 1:17:49 PM
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A: That is creepy. That’s really fucking creepy. (As Maria is laughing about meat dolls and liver and onions.)

Hope starts to play. I love it.

Kyrie says a line about a carnivorous plant eating a fly. A: We’re talking about penises, aren’t we? Oh man. Rudolf mentions that ‘his rose wilted. Did he have an erection the entire time we’re climbing to the guesthouse? That can’t be comfortable, dude!

Kanon. She asked why he wore the bird, but not Gohda. I just said that some servants do and some don’t. She then IMMEDIATELY ASSUMED KANON IS A BASTARD of the family. I breezed through that by saying that Genji also had the bird and he’s clearly an old man. She then accused Genji of being secretly a woman and Kinzo’s lover. Also, she took the furniture line fairly well, saying that it was just ‘his kink.’

A: Oh god he’s killed someone. (In response to Kinzo’s room stinking.)

They push George on the bed. K: More incest is happening.

Natsuhi. A: This is who you want me to dress up as? Happily. Hell, I already have the top and hair for it. And the skirt, actually. I would just need the jewelry, corset, and kerchief.

Eva says some rude things. A: You’re an absolute ****.

I think this word is censored on GameFAQs, so I'm asterisking it to be safe. It was a synonym for female private parts.

She knows this is a murder mystery, and I think at this point she just wanted to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. She started listing ways she thinks people will be murderers:

A: Rosa is the one who’s gonna poison someone. Eva is the one who’s gonna tie people up in a dungeon and kill them one by one slowly while the others watch. Natsuhi is gonna take a sword in one of those knight statues and go postal. Kyrie would shoot people with a pistol. Shotgun if she doesn’t have a choice. Rifle or sniper rifle at first, until she’s caught, then switch to the pistol when she’s caught. Shannon would be the one who helps Rosa poison the tea. Or who Rosa would pin it on. Kanon would do it in such a way that they’d wake up buried up to their neck. Gohda is a machete man, but not like Natsuhi. Gohda would cut their kneecaps or cut their guts out and lick the blade. Natsuhi would decapitate. Rudolf wouldn’t kill anyone. He’s the guy who laughs and says ‘you’re not gonna shoot me’ just before he gets shot. Hideyoshi wouldn’t kill you himself, but if a group of mafia came in, they’d be like ‘hey it’s done boss.’ Kinzo would use bombs ‘what you don’t know is… the house is rigged to explode!” (Kira note: oh lawl) and Kumasawa is too lazy to kill people, but she’s not above raping the men. She would tie them to a bed and give them drugs for horses that make them horny. Genji would either hold the old man back or would be ashamed and commit ritual suicide.

Kanon and Shannon share a moment in which they bitch about Eva and Natushi, which I interpret to be Yasu complaining to himself. She then asks if Shannon and Kanon are siblings, and I said that they’re from the same orphanage and it’ll be discussed later. And now she thinks they’re Kinzo’s “by-blows.”
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MariaTaylor
04/09/17 1:39:24 PM
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Eerieka posted...
Kanon: will probably think he’s a weird fuck due to his obsession with ‘furniture’. May never get over this.


this topic is already off to a great start
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Eerieka
04/09/17 2:30:28 PM
#8:


So that's as far as we made it last night. I'll be visiting Arria again on the 22nd. If the topic is still here, I'll add more then. If not, I'll make a new topic with the Google Doc.

So I want to ask everyone: what are some things that I should be looking for on a reread? Also is there anything else I should share with Arria as we go along? For instance, I know at the end of Ep 3 I plan to have her think about the red web. Are there any other things you guys want me to ask her about/get her opinions about as we go?
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greengravy294
04/09/17 2:35:16 PM
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been too long since i read umineko to give out any advice but it'll tag this anyway
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