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Suchomimus
04/08/17 9:38:48 PM
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The world doesn't care about depressed men like it does for depressed women. Most men are expected to be able to handle whatever life throws at them all on their own. Men who feel sad and depressed for a prolonged period of time are perceived as weak, feckless, and unattractive.

Why is this? Why are the options limited for depressed men? Is it a masculinity issue or a societal problem?
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UrCa1988
04/08/17 9:40:54 PM
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What limited options? Men aren't denied mental healthcare, it's just reluctance to seek it from societal pressure, which is a problem for both sexes.
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Hash-Brown
04/08/17 9:42:55 PM
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UrCa1988 posted...
it's just reluctance to seek it from societal pressure, which is a problem for both sexes.

Yeah, but men suffer for it more. The suicide rate for men is far higher than it is for women.
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ChainedRedone
04/08/17 9:44:53 PM
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Hash-Brown posted...
UrCa1988 posted...
it's just reluctance to seek it from societal pressure, which is a problem for both sexes.

Yeah, but men suffer for it more. The suicide rate for men is far higher than it is for women.


Suicide attempt isn't. Men are just likely to use more lethal means, often firearms or hanging.
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mattnd2007
04/08/17 9:46:28 PM
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Successful suicide. women attempt more, but men actually kill themselves
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Hash-Brown
04/08/17 9:47:04 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Hash-Brown posted...
UrCa1988 posted...
it's just reluctance to seek it from societal pressure, which is a problem for both sexes.

Yeah, but men suffer for it more. The suicide rate for men is far higher than it is for women.


Suicide attempt isn't. Men are just likely to use more lethal means, often firearms or hanging.

Because they are more serious about it rather than a cry for help/attention.
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Cartwheel_Kick
04/08/17 9:48:49 PM
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Does anybody really care about depressed women either?
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The23rdMagus
04/09/17 12:00:57 AM
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Does anybody really care? :/
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Gamer99z
04/09/17 12:01:38 AM
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Nobody is forcing men to internalize anything.
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Damn_Underscore
04/09/17 12:02:34 AM
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female privilege
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Mystere
04/09/17 12:03:02 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
Successful suicide. women attempt more, but men actually kill themselves

We're better at it.
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SmidgeIsntBack
04/09/17 12:04:14 AM
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I doubt female depression is taken much more seriously, especially when we've only just left the stepford wife era.
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Mystere
04/09/17 12:24:42 AM
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...
I doubt female depression is taken much more seriously, especially when we've only just left the stepford wife era.

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NonDairyMiltank
04/09/17 4:59:43 AM
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Gamer99z posted...
Nobody is forcing men to internalize anything.

in a sense, that's actually not true

"force" may be a gray word for it, but it's definitely "encouraged" with social conditioning
young boys are still often told by adults to stop crying, to "man up", instead of letting it out
the opposite of what many girls are told...

and society still CHOOSES to perpetuate this because of the perceived benefits and the "unattractiveness" of the alternative
in many ways society demands strong men and the common belief is that means being stoic, not "weak"
many women expect such emotionally repressed men and find the more sensitive males repulsive, defective
they want to be the ones who shed tears while a man "should" be their rock
parents, fathers and mothers, tend to more often shame a son for not striving for sooner independence and success
while letting the daughter live at their nest for as long as she "needs"
all of this due to expectations that shape gender norms, not vice versa

in my country, men have benefits for being male
but, even as a woman, i can see all the obstacles and suffering they still endure too
suffering that's partially exclusive and some that are a worse degree than what women typically experience in those situations
just like how women face certain things worse than men

even with privilege, males have a lot to feel depressed about and afraid
i can't justify telling them to bottle up how they're feeling when i'm told never to

maybe it's easier for me as a lesbian to value an emotionally free man than a stoic one since i'm never looking for a potential husband, not waiting for a Superman to rescue me, not disgusted when a timid man offers me help or needs mine

when you're someone who strives to understand the problems girls and women face, it shouldn't be difficult to see a similar number of issues tormenting boys and men too, dismiss either and i question just how humane you really are...
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Mystere
04/09/17 9:21:01 AM
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It's a human issue instead of a male or female issue. Your problems are YOUR problems. If you want someone that can provide quality help to pretend to give a shit, be ready to fork over serious money per hour.

This is pretty much how it is when it comes to anyone else's depression/issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHj-NQba_wE&feature=youtu.be&t=14
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