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solosnake
04/08/17 7:00:34 PM
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They lost in both the wars, why werent they taken over by the winning empires? Why were they allowed to continue to exist?
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Fart_Tzar
04/08/17 7:01:31 PM
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They kinda weren't.
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Vertania
04/08/17 7:02:36 PM
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because syrian refugees have to live somewhere
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AccountID
04/08/17 7:03:13 PM
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Pretty sure Russia took a piece after the world wars.
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Hey
04/08/17 7:04:52 PM
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Imperialism was mostly dead at that point
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monkmith
04/08/17 7:05:32 PM
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after WW1 the winning europeans took a large chunk of their country and all their foreign territory, pretty much destroyed their economy and set the stage for WW2. at the end of WW2 their country was again dismantled (after the russians finished raping all the women) and was functionally split in two until the 80s.
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TroutPaste
04/08/17 7:06:48 PM
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They were divided into 4 territories. The Russian area was taken from the western world until the fall of the Berlin Wall, USSR. The other 3 became West Germany.
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Guardian-Sloth
04/08/17 7:08:47 PM
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What did you think WWII was about?
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ChainedRedone
04/08/17 7:09:00 PM
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They were divided up. They didn't exist as a sovereign state. Increasingly, world powers began to believe that an independent Germany would be a good thing. De Gaulle especially wanted a strong friendly Germany, as he hated the divide between East and West. He believed Central Europe guided by Germany and France would act as a counterweight between the two sides.
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Arcvalons
04/08/17 8:17:46 PM
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Western Germany was created as a buffer against the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. East Germany was created to limit the power of Western Germany.
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Antifar
04/08/17 8:20:20 PM
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Ruling over Germany from abroad just seems like a recipe for nationalist uprising down the line.
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Funkdamental
04/09/17 5:22:53 AM
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monkmith posted...
after WW1 the winning europeans took a large chunk of their country...


The only areas of Germany permanently "taken" by "the winning Europeans" were, to the best of my recollection, Eupen and Malmédy (which went to Belgium) and Alsace-Lorraine (to France). The Saar Basin? Administered by the UK and France under a League of Nations mandate but returned to Germany after a plebiscite in 1935. The Rhineland? Under an Allied occupation which ended in 1930.

Germany's other territorial losses in its ethnically mixed borderlands -- northern Schleswig to Denmark, part of Upper Silesia and Pomerelia to Poland, Memel to Lithuania -- were not to "the winning Europeans".
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CW_McGraw
04/09/17 5:52:46 AM
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Post WWI, Germany wasn't defeated soundly enough militarily to just be dissolved by treaty. Post WWII, it was advantageous to keep them around to hold off the Soviets.
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Dash_Harber
04/09/17 5:55:13 AM
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They weren't. They became two separate 'countries' that were basically satellite protectorates under the Allies/US and the Soviets.

Piecing it out and creating a new country wouldn't have done any better though. Most people still identified as ethnically German and would have likely just continued to campaign for a 'German' state.
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Funkdamental
04/09/17 1:53:13 PM
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AccountID posted...
Pretty sure Russia took a piece after the world wars.


In 1945, the USSR annexed territories in eastern Poland. Poland was compensated with German territory that lay east of the Oder and Niesse rivers. Basically, Poland was moved a bit to the left.
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ChainedRedone
04/09/17 2:09:26 PM
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Funkdamental posted...
AccountID posted...
Pretty sure Russia took a piece after the world wars.


In 1945, the USSR annexed territories in eastern Poland. Poland was compensated with German territory that lay east of the Oder and Niesse rivers. Basically, Poland was moved a bit to the left.


They also annexed Eastern Prussia, always been part of Germany, which they still have.
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Gravityfare
04/10/17 8:44:29 PM
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Do you know what the Berlin Wall was? They were heavily emasculated after WWII. Germany was all but destroyed with regards to cities. Dresden, for example, was annihilated
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ThyCorndog
04/10/17 8:45:19 PM
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They lost territory in both wars and they were literally split in two after ww2
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RebelElite791
04/10/17 8:45:34 PM
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Well they're now an economic powerhouse and an amazing, vibrant country so I think it's worked out in the end for Germany.
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Medz8606
04/10/17 8:56:44 PM
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The German empire was no more after world war one and NAZI Germany was no more after world war two
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RebelElite791
04/10/17 8:57:26 PM
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Medz8606 posted...
The German empire was no more after world war one and NAZI Germany was no more after world war two

Also an important point. It's an entirely new government
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