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whitewimmin
04/08/17 10:20:45 AM
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https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/31/flint-residents-were-poisoned-now-theyre-being-billed-for-it.html
A day off in Flint. William Miller got his hair cut and his van fixed up. Then he needed something to drink, so he did what people here do, still, three years into this fiasco.

He drove to the parking lot beside the boarded-up bowling alley that says “ESTAURANT” on the side. He stopped at the four stop signs. He gave his address and his order to a woman holding a clipboard and wearing a fluorescent yellow vest.

“Twelve!” LaKrisha Shumon shouted ahead, and Miller, a 49-year-old surgical assistant who also owns a medical transport business, crept forward so that the men in vests could load the van with 12 free cases of Walmart’s Great Value Purified Drinking Water.

He comes every week. His anger has not subsided.

“It’s disgusting,” Miller, a trim man with a goatee and a grey college sweatshirt, said in an interview out his car window. “I should not have to do this. I’m a middle-class person. This is not the way life is supposed to be in this country. It’s morally reprehensible.”
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The warning letters arrived in Flint mailboxes in early March. Their demand, of almost unfathomable audacity, is delivered in red capital letters, underlined for emphasis: pay for your poison or else.

Snyder’s government, which was largely responsible for the water disaster, announced in February that it would stop giving Flint residents subsidies for their water. Mayor Karen Weaver then decided to resume the practice of shutting off the water for people with unpaid bills.

Coercive water shut-offs are controversial in the U.S. under normal circumstances, castigated by the United Nations as a violation of human rights. In Flint, which charged people some of the highest water rates in the country for killer gunk, the threats have been greeted with a mix of astonishment and told-you-so resignation.

“The people in Flint should not have to pay for water for at least a decade,” Hanna-Attisha said.

Thousands of residents have been refusing to pay for a year or more. Some say they will continue the protest even though parents without running water are regularly investigated by child protection authorities.

“I’m not going to give them one penny,” said Nakiya Wakes, 41, a stay-at-home-mom-turned-activist who owes $822.62. She had two miscarriages before the authorities warned pregnant women not to drink Flint water, and she believes the lead is also responsible for the worsening behaviour of her 8-year-old son, who has been suspended from school dozens of times.

Mays, a combative woman with a jagged sense of humour and little regard for social niceties, said she will try come up with an “insane” solution, like rigging up a cistern for an outdoor shower, rather than relent.

“Everyone says, ‘You guys just want something for free.’ No, we just don’t want to pay to have ourselves killed,” Mays, 38, said over her usual snack of coffee and pickles at a Flint bookstore-cafe. “I’m not going to pay a hit man to kill me.”

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E32005
04/08/17 10:22:58 AM
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All those politicians should be strung up
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wedontgetfooledagain
04/08/17 10:26:24 AM
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Absolutely disgusting. Coffee and pickles for a snack!?
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Antifar
04/08/17 10:28:43 AM
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wedontgetfooledagain posted...
Absolutely disgusting. Coffee and pickles for a snack!?

Yeah, I don't know what that's all about.
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Lonestar2000
04/08/17 10:29:57 AM
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E32005 posted...
All those politicians should be strung up

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wedontgetfooledagain
04/08/17 10:33:11 AM
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But, seriously, absolutely no citizen of Flint should be paying for that shit water. What are they going to do, bring in martial law for people demanding an EXTREMELY reasonable thing?
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Antifar
04/08/17 10:34:37 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
whitewimmin posted...
her usual snack of coffee and pickles

wat

Later in the story:
Open mic night at Totem Books, the funky store where Mays is known as “pickles and coffee lady.”


So other people acknowledge she's weird here
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tremain07
04/08/17 10:36:42 AM
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Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?
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BillySastard
04/08/17 10:36:47 AM
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How is the water company going to fix the pipes if nobody pays their bill?
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RebelElite791
04/08/17 10:37:46 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?
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tremain07
04/08/17 10:40:16 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Well, why don't they? The government does not care, nobody is going to jail over this. Their only choice is to cut and run to other area's in the state.Through maybe they'll finally get cliean water after the government arrests them all for the unpaid bills and take their children away to the bloated as hell foster care system.
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AvlButtslam
04/08/17 10:40:38 AM
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Clean drinkable water is a privilege, not a right
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lilORANG
04/08/17 10:40:41 AM
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Why hasn't Trump ordered a missile strike against the governors mansion? If killing your own people justifies that overseas, it certainly does here at home.
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Antifar
04/08/17 10:41:40 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Well, why don't they?

Where are they gonna go, and with what money?
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vicedungwinsgam
04/08/17 10:41:54 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points


This applies to literally anything

America doesn't give a shit about anything at all, dems and repubs 100% included, other than trying to feel morally superior to the other side. you all literally hang from strings
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wedontgetfooledagain
04/08/17 10:42:17 AM
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tremain07 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Well, why don't they? The government does not care, nobody is going to jail over this. Their only choice is to cut and run to other area's in the state.Through maybe they'll finally get cliean water after the government arrests them all for the unpaid bills and take their children away to the bloated as hell foster care system.

The people of Flint pay taxes. Will taxes not cover a fix to the problem?
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RebelElite791
04/08/17 10:43:09 AM
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tremain07 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Well, why don't they? The government does not care, nobody is going to jail over this. Their only choice is to cut and run to other area's in the state.Through maybe they'll finally get cliean water after the government arrests them all for the unpaid bills and take their children away to the bloated as hell foster care system.

Here's a guess:
Because they can't afford to?
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DancinShoesJone
04/08/17 10:44:06 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Would you buy a house in flint?
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Chicken
04/08/17 10:44:58 AM
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AvlButtslam posted...
Clean drinkable water is a privilege, not a right

Yeah in third world countries.
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RebelElite791
04/08/17 10:46:22 AM
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DancinShoesJone posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Would you buy a house in flint?

...what?
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Antifar
04/08/17 10:47:09 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
...what?

I think he thought your question was serious, not rhetorical.
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clearaflagrantj
04/08/17 10:47:50 AM
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vicedungwinsgam posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points


This applies to literally anything

America doesn't give a shit about anything at all, dems and repubs 100% included, other than trying to feel morally superior to the other side. you all literally hang from strings

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wedontgetfooledagain
04/08/17 10:48:51 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
DancinShoesJone posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Would you buy a house in flint?

...what?

Not that hard to wrap your mind around. Lots of people, you know, sell their homes to fund their move to a new home. Now, would you buy a home for sale in Flint, knowing that the entire city and surrounding area has poisonous, lead lined water?
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RebelElite791
04/08/17 10:56:42 AM
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wedontgetfooledagain posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DancinShoesJone posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Would you buy a house in flint?

...what?

Not that hard to wrap your mind around. Lots of people, you know, sell their homes to fund their move to a new home. Now, would you buy a home for sale in Flint, knowing that the entire city and surrounding area has poisonous, lead lined water?

I'm pretty sure the poor people living there didn't move to Flint after the crisis came out?

I was mocking his post, not asking that question seriously.
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pikachupwnage
04/08/17 11:00:10 AM
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BillySastard posted...
How is the water company going to fix the pipes if nobody pays their bill?


The government needs to pay for it fucking obviously.
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Rexdragon125
04/08/17 11:11:15 AM
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They would need to replace every single pipe in the water system to fix this properly, it would be cheaper to just rebuild the town elsewhere.
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wedontgetfooledagain
04/08/17 11:14:40 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
wedontgetfooledagain posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DancinShoesJone posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Reminder that both sides of the politician spectrum and the overall population of America don't give much of a fuck about this beyond moral points. Why don't they just move?

Why dont poor people just move?

Would you buy a house in flint?

...what?

Not that hard to wrap your mind around. Lots of people, you know, sell their homes to fund their move to a new home. Now, would you buy a home for sale in Flint, knowing that the entire city and surrounding area has poisonous, lead lined water?

I'm pretty sure the poor people living there didn't move to Flint after the crisis came out?

I was mocking his post, not asking that question seriously.

Yeah, that is a pretty dumbfounding question. Must have got me, too. Sorry, dood.

Rexdragon125 posted...
They would need to replace every single pipe in the water system to fix this properly, it would be cheaper to just rebuild the town elsewhere.

This is the saddest bit of all. No wonder the real estate market there is cratering. If the prices I'm seeing are in CANADIAN dollars, then yikes...
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BillySastard
04/08/17 11:19:31 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
BillySastard posted...
How is the water company going to fix the pipes if nobody pays their bill?


The government needs to pay for it fucking obviously.
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No, the water company sells water. They need to fix it.
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