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Mike_Stanton
04/07/17 12:01:14 PM
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vbty3
04/07/17 12:02:34 PM
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It's also a fact that the ideologies of that Democratic Party are more in line with the present Republican Party than the present Democratic Party.
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DezCaughtIt
04/07/17 12:02:45 PM
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I'll take "shifting party lines" for $100, Alex
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Butterfiles
04/07/17 12:04:32 PM
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SuperNamekGod
04/07/17 12:05:43 PM
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Didn't the democratic and republican party pull some Freaky Friday shit and switched ideologies?
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Gojak_v3
04/07/17 12:05:56 PM
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vbty3 posted...
It's also a fact that the ideologies of that Democratic Party are more in line with the present Republican Party than the present Democratic Party.


Ah yes, try to white wash that history.
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JohnLennon6
04/07/17 12:06:34 PM
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And what political party do you think the majority of the members are today?
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Solar_Crimson
04/07/17 12:07:23 PM
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So I guess that's why the KKK nowadays are Democrats, right?
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CableZL
04/07/17 12:07:27 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
vbty3 posted...
It's also a fact that the ideologies of that Democratic Party are more in line with the present Republican Party than the present Democratic Party.


Ah yes, try to white wash that history.


That's not whitewashing history. That's a fact. The KKK supports the Republican party today, and if you understand US history, especially around the 1960s, you'd know why.
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DezCaughtIt
04/07/17 12:07:32 PM
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SuperNamekGod posted...
Didn't the democratic and republican party pull some Freaky Friday shit and switched ideologies?

The Dixiecrats he's referring to fall in line with today's republicans
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Guardian-Sloth
04/07/17 12:07:40 PM
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There was never a side change, Dems just got more liberal.
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Caution999
04/07/17 12:08:15 PM
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Guardian-Sloth posted...
There was never a side change, Dems just got more liberal.

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DevsBro
04/07/17 12:09:37 PM
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Tc, I have you tagged as "BUTTERS?"

Presumably, the last time I saw you I don't even remember how long ago, I thought you might have been Butters.

So are you Butters?
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Gojak_v3
04/07/17 12:10:20 PM
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CableZL posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
vbty3 posted...
It's also a fact that the ideologies of that Democratic Party are more in line with the present Republican Party than the present Democratic Party.


Ah yes, try to white wash that history.


That's not whitewashing history. That's a fact. The KKK supports the Republican party today, and if you understand US history, especially around the 1960s, you'd know why.


You understand anyone can sign up for any party. Doesn't mean they have to embrace them. I could go register as a democrat if I wanted. The fact is yer trying to draw a subtle line that today's republican party is somehow as racist as the democrat party used to be.
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CableZL
04/07/17 12:12:24 PM
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Guardian-Sloth posted...
There was never a side change, Dems just got more liberal.


There was a side change. The KKK originally supported the Southern Democrats, and the Republicans were the relatively liberal party in comparison. Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for president to run against Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1964. Goldwater was staunchly against the civil rights movement, and many Republicans thought he was too conservative to win the election.

1964 election results by state:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#Results

Goldwater lost to President Lyndon Johnson by a landslide, pulling down the GOP, which lost many seats in both houses of Congress.

Goldwater only won his home state of Arizona and five states in the Deep South, depicted in red. The Southern states, traditionally Democratic up to that time, voted Republican primarily as a statement of opposition to the Civil Rights Act, which had been passed by Johnson and the Northern Democrats, as well as the majority of Republicans in Congress, earlier that year.

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Gojak_v3
04/07/17 12:12:47 PM
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JohnLennon6 posted...
And what political party do you think the majority of the members are today?


Which clearly means the kkk ideology is republican ideology in yer mind. Again, this is deflection by trying to make a comparison where there isn't one.
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Gojak_v3
04/07/17 12:14:32 PM
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CableZL posted...
Guardian-Sloth posted...
There was never a side change, Dems just got more liberal.


There was a side change. The KKK originally supported the Southern Democrats, and the Republicans were the relatively liberal party in comparison. Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for president to run against Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1964. Goldwater was staunchly against the civil rights movement, and many Republicans thought he was too conservative to win the election.

1964 election results by state:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#Results

Goldwater lost to President Lyndon Johnson by a landslide, pulling down the GOP, which lost many seats in both houses of Congress.

Goldwater only won his home state of Arizona and five states in the Deep South, depicted in red. The Southern states, traditionally Democratic up to that time, voted Republican primarily as a statement of opposition to the Civil Rights Act, which had been passed by Johnson and the Northern Democrats, as well as the majority of Republicans in Congress, earlier that year.


Republicans in congress supported the civil rights act at a rate higher than democrats.

I don't mind you defending that the democrats have changed. It's this comparison that somehow this is the republicans now that I have issue with.
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CableZL
04/07/17 12:15:17 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
You understand anyone can sign up for any party. Doesn't mean they have to embrace them. I could go register as a democrat if I wanted. The fact is yer trying to draw a subtle line that today's republican party is somehow as racist as the democrat party used to be.


No, I'm not saying that the Republican party is as racist as the Southern Democrats were. I'm just explaining that there was indeed a switch that occurred. As I just posted, the deep south states (Southern Democrat stronghold) were traditionally Democratic, but voted Republican as a statement of opposition to the Civil Rights Act that was passed by LBJ earlier in the year.

This is when black voters started heavily supporting Democratic candidates instead of Republican candidates, and that's when the KKK did the opposite.
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Benify
04/07/17 12:15:25 PM
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Did somebody say Kkk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY_LlrerODw

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CableZL
04/07/17 12:16:41 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
Republicans in congress supported the civil rights act at a rate higher than democrats.


Correct, but Goldwater was chosen as the nominee for president, and he was staunchly against the civil rights act. The KKK moved to the Republican party and black voters largely moved to support the Democratic party as a result.
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JohnLennon6
04/07/17 12:17:56 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
And what political party do you think the majority of the members are today?


Which clearly means the kkk ideology is republican ideology in yer mind

It kinda does.
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DarkChozoGhost
04/07/17 12:18:56 PM
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Correct, the KKK was founded by conservatives.
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Malcrasternus
04/07/17 12:20:12 PM
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Values and ideals change all the time.

Except when you're president. Then you're not allowed to change.
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WafflehouseJK
04/07/17 12:20:58 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
vbty3 posted...
It's also a fact that the ideologies of that Democratic Party are more in line with the present Republican Party than the present Democratic Party.


Ah yes, try to white wash that history.

I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.
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CableZL
04/07/17 12:27:01 PM
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Why does basic US history actually need to be explained over and over every time this subject is brought up?
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Doom_Art
04/07/17 12:35:27 PM
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It's almost as if political parties can change in the span of nearly a century
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DezCaughtIt
04/07/17 12:37:51 PM
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CableZL posted...
Why does basic US history actually need to be explained over and over every time this subject is brought up?

Because education in the US sucks and keeps on sucking
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ScazarMeltex
04/07/17 12:50:06 PM
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Nixon's southern strategy is one of the key reasons behind the shift.
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CableZL
04/07/17 1:15:26 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Nixon's southern strategy is one of the key reasons behind the shift.


*Nods*
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Antifar
04/07/17 1:17:44 PM
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If you want to get on the Democratic Party's history of racism to make a point at the modern day party, it's less of a stretch to point at Bill Clinton than the KKK
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Webmaster4531
04/07/17 1:22:52 PM
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The NRA was started by racists.
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pauIie
04/07/17 1:27:56 PM
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3rd_Best_Master
04/07/17 1:30:06 PM
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If there was no ideological switch between Democrats and Republicans then why do supporters of the Confederate flag typically vote Republican?
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Malcrasternus
04/07/17 2:02:39 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
The NRA was started by racists.


Gun control has racist roots.
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