Current Events > Sweden: Police warns of possible terror-act by truck running over crowd

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http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/uppgifter-fordon-pa-drottninggatan-personer-skadade

"Police have information that a vehicle has driven onto Drottninggatan in central Stockholm and people are injured. SVT reporter on the scene said that a police car driving around in central Stockholm and shouting "Beware of terrorism"."

Police were alerted by SOS Alarm 2:53 PM.
at the time of this post it is 3:19 PM, so it has been less than half an hour.
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Sad
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I am not more shocked at terrorism in Sweden than I am at car bombs in Baghdad.
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Remember years back when some guy did it on Västerlånggatan? He claimed voices told him to do it.
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So progressive to fill your country with hateful people of a strange religion and give fuck all about your own people.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I am not more shocked at terrorism in Sweden than I am at car bombs in Baghdad.

you would think so, but so far, Sweden has been unharmed by terror attacks.
i can only remember one in the past few years. with the bomber in 2010, who only managed to kill himself.
so if this does end up being confirmed as a terror attack, it would be a relatively new development.

the other Swedes here: does stuff like the Husby riots, the Rinkeby riots, the grenade attacks in Malmö count as terror attacks, or just other criminal activity?
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I am not more shocked at terrorism in Sweden than I am at car bombs in Baghdad.

you would think so, but so far, Sweden has been unharmed by terror attacks.
i can only remember one in the past few years. with the bomber in 2010, who only managed to kill himself.
so if this does end up being confirmed as a terror attack, it would be a relatively new development.

the other Swedes here: does stuff like the Husby riots, the Rinkeby riots, the grenade attacks in Malmö count as terror attacks, or just other criminal activity?

I don't think so? I mean the riots I guess are arguable, but messy to analyze. Grenades I assumed was criminal gangs.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I am not more shocked at terrorism in Sweden than I am at car bombs in Baghdad.

you would think so, but so far, Sweden has been unharmed by terror attacks.
i can only remember one in the past few years. with the bomber in 2010, who only managed to kill himself.
so if this does end up being confirmed as a terror attack, it would be a relatively new development.

the other Swedes here: does stuff like the Husby riots, the Rinkeby riots, the grenade attacks in Malmö count as terror attacks, or just other criminal activity?

The other stuff is criminal activity. It's not with terrorism in mind. This new event seems to be terrorism tho.
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scar the 1 posted...

I don't think so? I mean the riots I guess are arguable, but messy to analyze. Grenades I assumed was criminal gangs.

FF_Redux posted...

The other stuff is criminal activity. It's not with terrorism in mind. This new event seems to be terrorism tho.

ok, good.
just making sure so i don't end saying somethring wrong by mistake, when i say that this would be the first since the 2010 thing
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Yeah AFAIK you're right. But do we know a lot about the driver yet?
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Isn't it interesting how the countries taking the most refugees are the ones with the most terrorism?
Surely there's no correlation, and I am eager to accept and welcome thousands of refugees into my country.
The refugees are stunning, and brave.

scar the 1 posted...

Yeah AFAIK you're right. But do we know a lot about the driver yet?

There are no reports on the driver as of yet.

the livestream just mentioned something about "unconfirmed reports of shooting"
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-Gavirulax- posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

There are no reports on the driver as of yet.

Straight white male obviously.
Obviously.

Christian too

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Isn't it interesting how the countries taking the most refugees are the ones with the most terrorism?

I know that this is going to be falling on deaf ears...but from what I can find, almost every terror attack that has been done in Europe has been done by someone of non-refugee status, typically an immigrant that was here on other standards besides refugee. Along with that, almost everyone agrees that the way Europe decided to take in refugees, with minimal to no vetting, was stupid. That is not what the US is doing when it comes to the vetting process.

My thoughts to all those affected by this.
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Isn't it interesting how the countries taking the most refugees are the ones with the most terrorism?

I know that this is going to be falling on deaf ears...but from what I can find, almost every terror attack that has been done in Europe has been done by someone of non-refugee status, typically an immigrant that was here on other standards besides refugee. Along with that, almost everyone agrees that the way Europe decided to take in refugees, with minimal to no vetting, was stupid. That is not what the US is doing when it comes to the vetting process.

My thoughts to all those affected by this.

Doesn't matter what you say. I sense this topic is just gonna turn into a Sweden bashing topic like always.
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Isn't it interesting how the countries taking the most refugees are the ones with the most terrorism?

I know that this is going to be falling on deaf ears...but from what I can find, almost every terror attack that has been done in Europe has been done by someone of non-refugee status, typically an immigrant that was here on other standards besides refugee. Along with that, almost everyone agrees that the way Europe decided to take in refugees, with minimal to no vetting, was stupid. That is not what the US is doing when it comes to the vetting process.

My thoughts to all those affected by this.

Didn't say a refugee did it. Although, I would bet they have at least ONE thing in common.
I did say that the countries taking in refugees en masse seem to be the ones having the most problems with terrorism.

can we please keep the political discussion out of here for the time being?
once the situation is over and done with, feel free to do that, but for now, that's completely pointless.

are any of the Swedes here in Stockholm?
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ROBANN_88 posted...

can we please keep the political discussion out of here for the time being?
once the situation is over and done with, feel free to do that, but for now, that's completely pointless.

are any of the Swedes here in Stockholm?

I'm not, but I know people there. And people that visit Stockholm. People closest to our family are all safe that I know.
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...

My thoughts to all those affected by this.

This.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

FF_Redux posted...

Doesn't matter what you say. I sense this topic is just gonna turn into a Sweden bashing topic like always.

What are you rambling about - people generally love countries like Sweden.

Although, I would bet they have at least ONE thing in common.

Yeah, Islam.

Of course in this case we don't know yet, but if people were to take a guess it'd be a somewhat educated guess.

Nevermind, as TC said, let's keep politics out of the topic. Those just turn into really bad topics.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BSlfhxxlkCo/
the truck in question.
it apparently caught fire at one point?

some sources say "at least 2 dead"
other sources say possibkly 5 dead
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What sort of building was it? Looks like an office or a shopping center :/

Edit: nvm, seems to be a department store.
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teepan95 posted...

What sort of building was it? Looks like an office or a shopping center :/

i believe that is a shopping center /department store, yes.

SVT is reporting that the truck was stolen right before the attack happened
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https://mobile.twitter.com/gislio/status/850341956039303168/photo/1
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It is a shopping center on the most heavily trafficked walking street in Sweden.

I'm not in Stockholm atm, got tons of friends and family there.
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reports of shooting in "Fridhemsplan"
i don't know where that is in relation to this.

no word on if it is connected.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

reports of shooting in "Fridhemsplan"
i don't know where that is in relation to this.

no word on if it is connected.

It's 2/5 subway stops away, would take around 20 minutes to walk. Still central.
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i have to say that the police i've seen on the livestream seems to be handling the situation very well.

SÄPO confirms it as an attack.

Expressen claims that one person has been arrested but that is yet unconfirmed by other news groups.

all train/subway transports have been stopped.
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I called my ex and he's safe in his office. Have not heard anything about my other friends in Sthlm and my relatives, but my relatives are rarely downtown.
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* The alleged shooting at Fridhemsplan did not happen says police.

* The Government has been brought to safety.

* The Prime-Minister confirms it is terrorism.
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BalanceLost posted...

* The alleged shooting at Fridhemsplan did not happen says police.

okay. that's good.
but why the hell did they report it, then?

they even said stuff like "police confirms" before
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Super sad.
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>Sweden

He'll probably get off with just community service

the truck has been searched. no sign of any hazardous material inside
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ROBANN_88 posted...

BalanceLost posted...

* The alleged shooting at Fridhemsplan did not happen says police.

okay. that's good.
but why the hell did they report it, then?

they even said stuff like "police confirms" before

rumors happen quickly. I heard one account of police said "hey, get out of here, we haven't confirmed if there's a shooter here or not"
"did you say shooter!? Aaah!" "Shooter, Shooter!"
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I am not more shocked at terrorism in Sweden than I am at car bombs in Baghdad.

you would think so, but so far, Sweden has been unharmed by terror attacks.
i can only remember one in the past few years. with the bomber in 2010, who only managed to kill himself.
so if this does end up being confirmed as a terror attack, it would be a relatively new development.

the other Swedes here: does stuff like the Husby riots, the Rinkeby riots, the grenade attacks in Malmö count as terror attacks, or just other criminal activity?

This, I know Sweden has some problems but they have been adverse to terror attacks unlike France or Britain.
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Mmmmlibtears posted...

Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Isn't it interesting how the countries taking the most refugees are the ones with the most terrorism?

I know that this is going to be falling on deaf ears...but from what I can find, almost every terror attack that has been done in Europe has been done by someone of non-refugee status, typically an immigrant that was here on other standards besides refugee. Along with that, almost everyone agrees that the way Europe decided to take in refugees, with minimal to no vetting, was stupid. That is not what the US is doing when it comes to the vetting process.

My thoughts to all those affected by this.

Didn't say a refugee did it. Although, I would bet they have at least ONE thing in common.
I did say that the countries taking in refugees en masse seem to be the ones having the most problems with terrorism.

And of course this is ignored. Funny how liberals don't like to talk about that.

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Mmmmlibtears posted...

Isn't it interesting how the countries taking the most refugees are the ones with the most terrorism?

I know that this is going to be falling on deaf ears...but from what I can find, almost every terror attack that has been done in Europe has been done by someone of non-refugee status, typically an immigrant that was here on other standards besides refugee. Along with that, almost everyone agrees that the way Europe decided to take in refugees, with minimal to no vetting, was stupid. That is not what the US is doing when it comes to the vetting process.

My thoughts to all those affected by this.

Didn't say a refugee did it. Although, I would bet they have at least ONE thing in common.
I did say that the countries taking in refugees en masse seem to be the ones having the most problems with terrorism.

And of course this is ignored. Funny how liberals don't like to talk about that.

Talk about what? Pretty much everyone here has made the assumption, it's not necessary to comment on.

His religion however, has no connection to your statement. Your comment was "countries with refugees have had a larger increase in terrorism.". This statement has both a cause and effect, despite what you say about "not saying a refugee did it."

Basically, we don't know if the refugee situation being different would have changed what happened here. But also, as was requested, no one is talking politics and instead allowing all the details to come out.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/truck-incident-stockholm-injures-several-sweden-police-n743781
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/truck-crashes-crowd-people-stockholm/
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/07/truck-plows-into-crowd-outside-swedish-shopping-area-report.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/04/07/sweden-attack-latest-disturbing-terror-vehicle-trend/100166752/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/world/europe/stockholm-attack.html?_r=0
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789219/Sweden-terror-truck-attack-Drottninggatan-Parliament-closed

Lots of big news outlets are reporting on it.
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Heavily armed policemen are patrolling cities all over Sweden, my city among others. There's no specific that they're responding to, just increased preparedness (can't find the proper word for beredskap).
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We're going to see a lot more of these truck attacks sadly as the Islamic State continues to take a pounding
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There is one ray of light in this horror: People across Stockholm have been helping each other today - opening their homes to those who couldn't get back to their own homes due to lockdown of traffic, sharing food with each other and so forth. And I just read a strong piece written together by two high ranking local politicians in Stockholm, one is a Socialdemocrat and the other is a Conservative. So there is unity against the terror.
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...

His religion however, has no connection to your statement.

Yes, I'm sure he was just having a bad day. His religion had nothing to do with it, just like all the other terrorist attacks. Even though they straight up, yknow, say they're doing it for their religion.
Nope, no correlation whatsoever.

Flaming_Fire619 posted...

Basically, we don't know if the refugee situation being different would have changed what happened here.

Terror attacks are significantly higher in countries that take in large numbers of refugees/immigrants from a specific area of the world. Countries that have strong borders and do not take in massive amounts of refugees/immigrants have a significantly lower number of attacks.
Nope, no correlation whatsoever.

His religion however, has no connection to your statement.

mfw

BalanceLost posted...

And I just read a strong piece written together by two high ranking local politicians in Stockholm, one is a Socialdemocrat and the other is a Conservative. So there is unity against the terror.

link?
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