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MARKINGRAM22
04/07/17 12:11:46 AM
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Since their outrage completely followed party lines. I expect political correctness to take a dive now that the left can criticize actual issues they would be against if their hero leaders aren't behind it.
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Antifar
04/07/17 12:17:22 AM
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A good rule of thumb here is to replace instances of "the left" in the OP with "liberals." The left opposed shit even when Obama did it.
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TheVipaGTS
04/07/17 12:18:33 AM
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congrats on graduating Jr High this year, TC
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Drasilor
04/07/17 12:21:40 AM
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There is no war.
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Saloonist
04/07/17 12:23:41 AM
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Antifar posted...
A good rule of thumb here is to replace instances of "the left" in the OP with "liberals." The left opposed shit even when Obama did it.

I rarely heard peeps from the left criticizing Obama for not legalizing same sex marriage right away. They certainly didn't call him a bigot for defending traditional marriage.

Let's not pretend the left, as you want to call it, doesn't have a history of hypocrisy.
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TheVipaGTS
04/07/17 12:30:25 AM
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Saloonist posted...
Antifar posted...
A good rule of thumb here is to replace instances of "the left" in the OP with "liberals." The left opposed shit even when Obama did it.

I rarely heard peeps from the left criticizing Obama for not legalizing same sex marriage right away. They certainly didn't call him a bigot for defending traditional marriage.

Let's not pretend the left, as you want to call it, doesn't have a history of hypocrisy.

uuummm, Obama has come out and said that he PERSONALLY believes in "Traditional Marriage", but knows same sex marriage being legal is best for the people of the nation, so he put his personal beliefs aside and supported same sex marriage. he knows he's free to still hold his own beliefs in private but won't force those beliefs on the entire nation...that's what a good leader does....
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Saloonist
04/07/17 12:37:30 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Saloonist posted...
Antifar posted...
A good rule of thumb here is to replace instances of "the left" in the OP with "liberals." The left opposed shit even when Obama did it.

I rarely heard peeps from the left criticizing Obama for not legalizing same sex marriage right away. They certainly didn't call him a bigot for defending traditional marriage.

Let's not pretend the left, as you want to call it, doesn't have a history of hypocrisy.

uuummm, Obama has come out and said that he PERSONALLY believes in "Traditional Marriage", but knows same sex marriage being legal is best for the people of the nation, so he put his personal beliefs aside and supported same sex marriage. he knows he's free to still hold his own beliefs in private but won't force those beliefs on the entire nation...that's what a good leader does....


No at the time, he used his belief in traditional marriage to explain why he wouldn't support same sex marriage..

"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage." 2008 MTV interview.

His views then subsequently "evolved" on the issue.

Hillary Clinton believed the same thing, and publicly opposed same sex marriage (she still does privately to this day).

I have never heard either of them called bigots. But if a white male Republican says he believes marriage is between a man and woman, you can be certain that he will be called a bigot.

But this is only one example of the hypocrisy of the left. One doesn't need to search too hard to find all manner of leftists providing rhetorical cover for the Soviet Union in its heyday, while at the same time decrying American "imperialism".

The left typically tries to bury that history.
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TheVipaGTS
04/07/17 12:39:41 AM
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Saloonist posted...
His views then subsequently "evolved" on the issue.

which is good, that's what we should want from our politicians, no? He held a dumb opinion, but as the leader of our nation realized its in the best interest of the nation....so he was able to set aside his personal beliefs for the benefit of the majority....and you attack him for that?
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Antifar
04/07/17 12:41:30 AM
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You want me to call Hillary Clinton a bigot? I will. Obama's political calculation was shameful, the fact that he had to be "accidentally" pushed into support for gay marriage showed a lack of courage and leadership. It was another issue where the left was well ahead of liberals.


At any rate, I'm not sure what the gay marriage debate has to do with the topic at hand.
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Saloonist
04/07/17 12:46:53 AM
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Antifar posted...
You want me to call Hillary Clinton a bigot? I will. Obama's political calculation was shameful, the fact that he had to be "accidentally" pushed into support for gay marriage showed a lack of courage and leadership. It was another issue where the left was well ahead of liberals.


At any rate, I'm not sure what the gay marriage debate has to do with the topic at hand.

Well you seemed to be separating the left from hypocrisy, but to no avail. The left has had plenty of hypocrites.
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Saloonist
04/07/17 12:47:50 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Saloonist posted...
His views then subsequently "evolved" on the issue.

which is good, that's what we should want from our politicians, no? He held a dumb opinion, but as the leader of our nation realized its in the best interest of the nation....so he was able to set aside his personal beliefs for the benefit of the majority....and you attack him for that?

If you are going to call Republicans bigots for their beliefs, then be consistent and apply the same to Obama. Otherwise, you are a hypocrite. It's water under the bridge now, but liberals and the left were hypocritical on this issue at that time.
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