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ssj3vegeta
04/06/17 9:44:37 PM
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ChromaticAngel
04/06/17 9:46:14 PM
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Since Congress hasn't declared war since WW2 we won them all. yep.
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nayr626
04/06/17 9:48:05 PM
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Revolutionary - Won
War of 1812 - Treaty
Mexican American war - Won
Civil War - North Won (The war of Northern aggression).
Spanish American War - Won.
WWI - Came in last minute due to the revolution in Russia..but yeah we were part of the allies;
WW2 - Allies Win
Korea - Stalemate
Vietnam - Loss

Don't feel like doing the rest...
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Itachi157
04/06/17 9:49:48 PM
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Revolutionary War for sure
Mexican-American War
Spanish-American War
Gulf War
Iraq War 2003 (against Saddam's government. Overall invasion not exactly a success)

for wins

Major ones I can think of off the top of my head. I wouldn't include WW1/WW2 as they are too much of group efforts to say "The US won the war" as much as we were on the winning side.
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1NfamousACE_2
04/06/17 9:51:20 PM
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lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
04/06/17 9:54:53 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao
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LysistrataMedea
04/06/17 9:56:35 PM
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iirc France actually has the most war wins in terms of modern states
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psvitantifail
04/06/17 10:03:18 PM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao

We had shitty plastic and aluminum M16A1 with the wrong type of black powder firing .223 meanwhile the Vietcong had AK47/RPK they didn't break or jam and could be literally use as bats and fired a 7.62mm round that had way more penetration and stopping power... Plus they were used to Guerrilla War tactics we were not....
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Feline_Heart
04/06/17 10:04:27 PM
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LysistrataMedea posted...
iirc France actually has the most war wins in terms of modern states

They surrendered to Nazi Germany during WW II, so that cancels out all their wins.
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ThePrinceFish
04/06/17 10:05:34 PM
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psvitantifail posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao

We had shitty plastic and aluminum M16A1 with the wrong type of black powder firing .223 meanwhile the Vietcong had AK47/RPK they didn't break or jam and could be literally use as bats and fired a 7.62mm round that had way more penetration and stopping power... Plus they were used to Guerrilla War tactics we were not....

And we still wiped the floor with them until public pressures at home forced us to withdraw.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
04/06/17 10:05:34 PM
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psvitantifail posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao

We had shitty plastic and aluminum M16A1 with the wrong type of black powder firing .223 meanwhile the Vietcong had AK47/RPK they didn't break or jam and could be literally use as bats and fired a 7.62mm round that had way more penetration and stopping power... Plus they were used to Guerrilla War tactics we were not....


I never said us losing was a good thing, or that it wasn't because we had an unfair advantage.

It's still a loss though.
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GODTIER
04/06/17 10:06:25 PM
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psvitantifail posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao

We had shitty plastic and aluminum M16A1 with the wrong type of black powder firing .223 meanwhile the Vietcong had AK47/RPK they didn't break or jam and could be literally use as bats and fired a 7.62mm round that had way more penetration and stopping power... Plus they were used to Guerrilla War tactics we were not....


We also napalm'd the fuck out of their country and stopped their economic growth
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TheGoldenState
04/06/17 10:07:21 PM
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nayr626 posted...
Civil War - North Won (The war of Northern aggression).

lol stfu
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
04/06/17 10:07:25 PM
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GODTIER posted...
psvitantifail posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao

We had shitty plastic and aluminum M16A1 with the wrong type of black powder firing .223 meanwhile the Vietcong had AK47/RPK they didn't break or jam and could be literally use as bats and fired a 7.62mm round that had way more penetration and stopping power... Plus they were used to Guerrilla War tactics we were not....


We also napalm'd the fuck out of their country and stopped their economic growth


And still were forced to retreat and lose the war.
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Lorenzo_2003
04/06/17 10:08:13 PM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao


The more I read about it, the more I question whether it was really a loss, at least in the traditional sense of the word. The US was absolutely devastating the North, even though the US was supposed to be operating in a supporting role to the South. But the South was not holding up its end and was either too corrupt or inept to ever truly take the reigns from their US counterparts. Since the war kept dragging on and on, the American public lost its interest in sending their youth to fight and die, especially when the cause of supporting democracy on the other side of the world lost its appeal. I've spoken to a lot of Vietnam vets and, so far at least, they all said they hated being there but they never thought they were losing, then they just went home.
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Inappropriate
04/06/17 10:11:00 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
The more I read about it, the more I question whether it was really a loss, at least in the traditional sense of the word. The US was absolutely devastating the North, even though the US was supposed to be operating in a supporting role to the South. But the South was not holding up its end and was either too corrupt or inept to ever truly take the reigns from their US counterparts. Since the war kept dragging on and on, the American public lost its interest in sending their youth to fight and die, especially when the cause of supporting democracy on the other side of the world lost its appeal. I've spoken to a lot of Vietnam vets and, so far at least, they all said they hated being there but they never thought they were losing, then they just went home.


I mean, yeah. The US basically "won" in terms of military strength, but withdrew due to political and social pressure.

So it's all a matter of how one defines what winning and losing is. If withdrawing = losing, then the US lost.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
04/06/17 10:11:48 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
lol....we didn't lose Vietnam silly


We definitely did lmao


The more I read about it, the more I question whether it was really a loss, at least in the traditional sense of the word. The US was absolutely devastating the North, even though the US was supposed to be operating in a supporting role to the South. But the South was not holding up its end and was either too corrupt or inept to ever truly take the reigns from their US counterparts. Since the war kept dragging on and on, the American public lost its interest in sending their youth to fight and die, especially when the cause of supporting democracy on the other side of the world lost its appeal. I've spoken to a lot of Vietnam vets and, so far at least, they all said they hated being there but they never thought they were losing, then they just went home.


But it's still a loss... even in the traditional sense of the word... like wtf

Why is so hard for some Americans to admit that it's a loss. I'll never understand it.

It was a loss. Yea, the North got hit pretty badly and all, but we lost in the end. You can't pull out all your forces, fail to complete the goals you set out to complete and then go "Yeah guys we won this day".

Like wut
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nayr626
04/06/17 10:14:45 PM
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TheGoldenState posted...
nayr626 posted...
Civil War - North Won (The war of Northern aggression).

lol stfu


I was being sarcastic.

I've heard that's what the South Call it. Just like WW2 in Russia is The Great Patriotic War <_<.
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Lorenzo_2003
04/06/17 10:14:46 PM
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Inappropriate posted...

I mean, yeah. The US basically "won" in terms of military strength, but withdrew due to political and social pressure.

So it's all a matter of how one defines what winning and losing is. If withdrawing = losing, then the US lost.


Yes, exactly. I wouldn't deny that ultimately the US left and the North succeeded in taking over the South. There is a bit of nuance though that a lot of people either dismiss or fail to recognize.
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K181
04/06/17 10:15:32 PM
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Revolutionary War - won
Barbary Wars - won
Quasi War - draw
War of 1812 - draw
Hundreds of Indian Wars - won
Mexican-American War - won
Civil War - won
Multiple Latin American interventions - won
Spanish-American War - won
Boxer Rebellion - won
World War 1 - won
Russian intervention - lost
World War 2 - won
Korean War - draw
Vietnam War - lost
Gulf War - won
Somali War - lost
Afghan War - won
Iraq War - won

So... that's like 847-3-3

Not bad.
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TheGoldenState
04/06/17 10:15:58 PM
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nayr626 posted...
TheGoldenState posted...
nayr626 posted...
Civil War - North Won (The war of Northern aggression).

lol stfu


I was being sarcastic.

I've heard that's what the South Call it. Just like WW2 in Russia is The Great Patriotic War <_<.

thats more understandable tbqh
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
04/06/17 10:17:47 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Inappropriate posted...

I mean, yeah. The US basically "won" in terms of military strength, but withdrew due to political and social pressure.

So it's all a matter of how one defines what winning and losing is. If withdrawing = losing, then the US lost.


Yes, exactly. I wouldn't deny that ultimately the US left and the North succeeded in taking over the South. There is a bit of nuance though that a lot of people either dismiss or fail to recognize.


Because the US wasn't able to complete the objectives it set out to complete, and the enemy was...

It's a fucking loss no matter which way you look at it. Like wtf

It'd be like the Mongols saying they successfully beat Europe because it would have happened if Genghis didn't die.

That's not how Wars work lmao

The US lost the Vietnam war. We won many many others.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
04/06/17 10:17:50 PM
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Can't win 'em all.
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GODTIER
04/06/17 10:19:54 PM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Inappropriate posted...

I mean, yeah. The US basically "won" in terms of military strength, but withdrew due to political and social pressure.

So it's all a matter of how one defines what winning and losing is. If withdrawing = losing, then the US lost.


Yes, exactly. I wouldn't deny that ultimately the US left and the North succeeded in taking over the South. There is a bit of nuance though that a lot of people either dismiss or fail to recognize.


Because the US wasn't able to complete the objectives it set out to complete, and the enemy was...

It's a fucking loss no matter which way you look at it. Like wtf

It'd be like the Mongols saying they successfully beat Europe because it would have happened if Genghis didn't die.

That's not how Wars work lmao

The US lost the Vietnam war. We won many many others.



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Lorenzo_2003
04/06/17 10:22:00 PM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...

But it's still a loss... even in the traditional sense of the word... like wtf


No. That is not a traditional loss in a military setting. At its core, a traditional battle has two opposing forces facing off against each other, both using violent means to outright kill its enemy's units and/or disrupt its enemy's logistics to starve those same units. The one dies the most... well, loses. That did not happen the way you might be thinking it did. US forces, taken as a whole and over the length of the campaign, dominated their Northern enemies. That is a fact. But in the end, the US left. That is also a fact, thus the US lost.
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EbonTitanium
04/06/17 10:24:33 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Since Congress hasn't declared war since WW2 we won them all. yep.

Yep. Everything post WW2 is a conflict, not a war.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
04/07/17 12:30:03 AM
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EbonTitanium posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Since Congress hasn't declared war since WW2 we won them all. yep.

Yep. Everything post WW2 is a conflict, not a war.

Bunch of nonsense if you ask me.

If you go to war go all the way or don't go at all.
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ChromaticAngel
04/07/17 12:52:06 AM
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Serious note.

We absolutely lost the war of 1812. Saying we won it is pretty much revisionist history as the message that we'd surrendered to the British hadn't made it to Andrew Jackson yet, and the Brits were already packing up and leaving (after having burned down the white house) so Andrew Jackson attacked some crappy british fortification and then they left (cause they were leaving anyway) and then the story goes "Andrew Jackson beat the British so bad they ran away."

If you count pre Constitution, the Mexicans also whipped our asses.
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