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3rd_Best_Master
04/06/17 4:54:20 PM
#51:


Fart_Tzar posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
How is comprise even a necessity now that the filibuster is gone? What's there to compromise when the minority party might as well not even be there?


I'd make an argument saying in the long term getting rid of the weapon of shutting the gov't down is good, but it seems you would argue against it either way. It looks like we're done here.

Seems like even you know your bulls*** opinion is garbage when you need to make excuses just to keep it to yourself.
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Mal_Fet
04/06/17 4:56:11 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Just like the other day when you used the term circumstantial evidence without knowing what it means.

Oh look, another lie.

If it was just the other day, the topic must still be up, right? Give us the link.

Hey @Kim_Kusanagi I'm still waiting for that link
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CrimsonAngeI
04/06/17 5:02:23 PM
#53:


Republicans "Just change the rules when we can't get our way"
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gunplagirl
04/06/17 5:07:46 PM
#54:


hollow_shrine posted...
Color me surprised. 2018 can't come soon enough.

We won't gain many seats even if more democrats go out and vote. It won't be until 2021 that the districts get redrawn and so it's down to us winning more 2018 and 2020 seats to get the majority so that over the next decade they'll have more fair districts.
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Mal_Fet
04/06/17 5:17:21 PM
#55:


Mal_Fet posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Just like the other day when you used the term circumstantial evidence without knowing what it means.

Oh look, another lie.

If it was just the other day, the topic must still be up, right? Give us the link.

Hey @Kim_Kusanagi I'm still waiting for that link

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ElatedVenusaur
04/06/17 5:17:42 PM
#56:


gunplagirl posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
Color me surprised. 2018 can't come soon enough.

We won't gain many seats even if more democrats go out and vote. It won't be until 2021 that the districts get redrawn and so it's down to us winning more 2018 and 2020 seats to get the majority so that over the next decade they'll have more fair districts.

2018's also a real bad year for Senate seats(for the Democrats), since it's the echo of 2006 and 2012. Like, Ted Cruz's seat is the third best pick-up opportunity. A reasonably popular incumbent senator in a red state.
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Bloodychess
04/06/17 5:18:07 PM
#57:


PiOverlord posted...
Our freedoms are over. Gorsuch is good, but now we are going to get the worst Supreme Court in history with the following justices.

Y'all might as well rip up this Constitution because it is as valuable as a piece of Toilet Paper now.


It's amazing how each side says this when someone that doesn't bat for them fills a seat
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Kim Kusanagi
04/06/17 5:20:38 PM
#58:


Mal_Fet posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Just like the other day when you used the term circumstantial evidence without knowing what it means.

Oh look, another lie.

If it was just the other day, the topic must still be up, right? Give us the link.

Hey @Kim_Kusanagi I'm still waiting for that link


wait, ill look into it.

EDIT: I looked into my active messages and the topic already got purged (it was last week when you posted such idiocy with your laughable alt).
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voldothegr8
04/06/17 5:21:41 PM
#59:


CrimsonAngeI posted...
Harry Reid "Just change the rules when we can't get our way"

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s0nicfan
04/06/17 5:23:19 PM
#60:


This is the most bipartisan thing Congress has done in years.
Dems killed the filibuster for lower courts in 2013
Repubs double-tapped the corpse for the supreme court now.

What I wanna know is WHY can a rule that requires more than a simple majority to use be repealed with a simple majority? Who the hell missed that loophole in the early draft. Was it old Benny Franklin? That lush!
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Mal_Fet
04/06/17 5:26:17 PM
#61:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
wait, ill look into it.

EDIT: I looked into my active messages and the topic already got purged (it was last week when you posted such idiocy with your laughable alt).

Lol ok bro. So what was the topic about
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Kim Kusanagi
04/06/17 5:29:06 PM
#62:


Mal_Fet posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
wait, ill look into it.

EDIT: I looked into my active messages and the topic already got purged (it was last week when you posted such idiocy with your laughable alt).

Lol ok bro. So what was the topic about


When someone made a topic about Trump being a Russian shill paid by Putin and being investigated by FBI and you posted something about circumstantial evidence that was so completely against the definition that everyone in the thread laughed at you.
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Questionmarktarius
04/06/17 5:30:06 PM
#63:


s0nicfan posted...
What I wanna know is WHY can a rule that requires more than a simple majority to use be repealed with a simple majority? Who the hell missed that loophole in the early draft. Was it old Benny Franklin? That lush!

The concept of filibuster is not in the constitution at all.
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garan
04/06/17 5:32:35 PM
#64:


SideshowBob311 posted...
If you don't like it, blame Harry Reid. After what he did in 2013, this was inevitable. You can't un-**** that pig.


Yep, Democrats shouldn't have bothered with the filibuster if they didn't want the Republicans to do this.
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Coffeebeanz
04/06/17 5:32:59 PM
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The filibuster was never a rule to begin with, just a mutually accepted gentleman's agreement about Senate procedure. There's also a ton of ways around it, an Democrats aren't exactly one to talk since they used budget reconciliation to weasel the ACA through the Senate's filibuster.

To be fair, I can't remember the last time either party legitimately filibustered a Supreme Court nominee, so Democrats were kinda pushing their luck a bit by going that direction.
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Zeus
04/06/17 5:33:01 PM
#66:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Fart_Tzar posted...
It's about time we got rid of the filibuster. Both sides have been bitching about it for years.

Just because a republicans are getting rid of it, everyone getting all partisan politics up in here.

No it's just calling out hypocrisy. Why didn't they try to get rid of it before? They had the opportunity to for awhile. They kept it because at the time it benefitted them. And you can say "but liberals would do it too!" And and they should be held to the same standards...but that isn't what happened here. Hold the ones who did it accountable. Don't say "they would have done it too!"...that just gives both sides more power to do shit like this.


Somebody forgets that the Democrats were the first party to ever filibuster a supreme court nominee and one of the people involved in said filibuster was a former black president.

Fart_Tzar posted...
We don't live in a perfect world. At least the fillibuster is going away. Take what positives you can from a situation.


I'm not sure that's actually a plus.

Coffeebeanz posted...
The filibuster was never a rule to begin with, just a mutually accepted gentleman's agreement about Senate procedure.

To be fair, I can't remember the last time either party legitimately filibustered a Supreme Court nominee, so Democrats were kinda pushing their luck a bit by going that direction.


The only time in US history that it's happened was to GWB's nomination of Alito in 2006, which was back when the Dems were abusing the filibuster to obstruct Republicans. (Oh, supposedly it may have happened in some form to LBJ's nomination.)
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Coffeebeanz
04/06/17 5:36:38 PM
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By legitimately filibuster, I mean successfully and permanently blocking a nominee. The Democrats actually failed their filibuster of Alito. Mostly because nobody has ever seriously attempted a literal filibuster of a nominee on the Senate floor in decades. The Senate has a constitutional obligation to confirm (or not confirm) a nominee, which has generally been interpreted as the Senate actually has to vote on a nominee, and a filibuster essentially violates that rule.

The Republicans took advantage of their control of the Senate to delay Merrick Garland's nomination hearings until after the election. It would've eventually failed and just be a publicity stunt if Clinton had won.
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Kim Kusanagi
04/06/17 5:42:30 PM
#68:


Zeus posted...
Somebody forgets that the Democrats were the first party to ever filibuster a supreme court nominee and one of the people involved in said filibuster was a former black president.


Oh really
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Coffeebeanz
04/06/17 5:43:52 PM
#69:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
Zeus posted...
Somebody forgets that the Democrats were the first party to ever filibuster a supreme court nominee and one of the people involved in said filibuster was a former black president.


Oh really


Not to mention one of the guys he filibustered wound up becoming Chief Justice and literally saved his healthcare bill from being ruled unconstitutional.

If anything, Democrats owe the GOP a freebie.
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Crazyman93
04/06/17 6:35:40 PM
#70:


ChrisHansen59 posted...
Gorsuch will be confirmed Friday

Isn't he rumored to have views very similar to the late Justice Scalia's? If so, good.
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Mal_Fet
04/06/17 6:36:15 PM
#71:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
When someone made a topic about Trump being a Russian shill paid by Putin

There's not circumstantial evidence for that though. There's zero evidence for that.

Also, I wasn't in any topic like that. I generally ignore Russia topics or only make condescending posts about people who say they "hacked the election"

I'm pretty sure it was over of the other dozen people with a Sephiroth username
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Zeus
04/06/17 6:47:30 PM
#72:


Mal_Fet posted...
There's not circumstantial evidence for that though. There's zero evidence for that.

Also, I wasn't in any topic like that. I generally ignore Russia topics or only make condescending posts about people who say they "hacked the election"


It's revenge for Trump's involvement in the birther movement.
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Kineth
04/06/17 6:51:53 PM
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Zaltera
04/06/17 7:19:35 PM
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Isn't he rumored to have views very similar to the late Justice Scalia's? If so, good.


I am kind of surprised to see this posted on a board full of people who celebrated his death.
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Webmaster4531
04/06/17 7:20:51 PM
#75:


Zaltera posted...
Isn't he rumored to have views very similar to the late Justice Scalia's? If so, good.


I am kind of surprised to see this posted on a board full of people who celebrated his death.

Scalia voted to make corruption legal.
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voldothegr8
04/06/17 7:20:55 PM
#76:


Zaltera posted...
Isn't he rumored to have views very similar to the late Justice Scalia's? If so, good.


I am kind of surprised to see this posted on a board full of people who celebrated his death.

We're not all liberal shit stains.
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Zeus
04/06/17 7:22:24 PM
#77:


Zaltera posted...
Isn't he rumored to have views very similar to the late Justice Scalia's? If so, good.


I am kind of surprised to see this posted on a board full of people who celebrated his death.


And a board which mockingly encouraged Clarence Thomas to follow his example >_>
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Aysander
04/06/17 7:30:48 PM
#78:


This still doesn't nuke the Fillibuster against Legislation, and let's be honest, that's where it has serves its purpose as a minority party security to the best ability anyways.
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Kim Kusanagi
04/06/17 8:29:23 PM
#79:


Mal_Fet posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
When someone made a topic about Trump being a Russian shill paid by Putin

There's not circumstantial evidence for that though. There's zero evidence for that.

Also, I wasn't in any topic like that. I generally ignore Russia topics or only make condescending posts about people who say they "hacked the election"

I'm pretty sure it was over of the other dozen people with a Sephiroth username


Actually the whole investigation began because there's more than circumstantial evidence but hey thanks for proving I was right about you not knowing.
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Correct_Facts
04/06/17 8:32:12 PM
#80:


Guys, Kim Kusanagi is a confirmed troll, and not a very good one either. You're better off ignoring him. Can't believe people don't know this already.
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Bloodychess
04/06/17 11:37:28 PM
#81:


Zeus posted...
Zaltera posted...
Isn't he rumored to have views very similar to the late Justice Scalia's? If so, good.


I am kind of surprised to see this posted on a board full of people who celebrated his death.


And a board which mockingly encouraged Clarence Thomas to follow his example >_>


jfc i remember that
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Kim Kusanagi
04/07/17 8:30:48 AM
#82:


Correct_Facts posted...
Guys, Kim Kusanagi is a confirmed troll, and not a very good one either. You're better off ignoring him. Can't believe people don't know this already.


You seem upset
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Mal_Fet
04/07/17 11:06:01 AM
#83:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
Actually the whole investigation began because there's more than circumstantial evidence

Ok what is it
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Guardian-Sloth
04/07/17 11:10:03 AM
#84:


The Democrats knew when Obama nominated a major liberal to be on the Supreme Court that Republicans weren't going to do it, we're never going to get anything done, even if it's something Dems want, until they stop being butthurt losers.
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Darklit_Minuet
04/07/17 12:11:55 PM
#86:


Guardian-Sloth posted...
The Democrats knew when Obama nominated a major liberal to be on the Supreme Court that Republicans weren't going to do it, we're never going to get anything done, even if it's something Dems want, until they stop being butthurt losers.

I wish they nominated a major liberal
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Kim Kusanagi
04/07/17 12:25:54 PM
#87:


Mal_Fet posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Actually the whole investigation began because there's more than circumstantial evidence

Ok what is it


I'm too lazy to post what's already on cnn

Your fake news disclaimer won't change the facts
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