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COVxy 04/05/17 8:00:07 PM #1:	http://www.nature.com/news/unpaywall-finds-free-versions-of-paywalled-papers-1.21765 Great resource. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876618746] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>http://www.nature.com/news/unpaywall-finds-free-versions-of-paywalled-papers-1.21765 Great resource.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/05/17 8:38:30 PM #2:	Up for knowledge. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876620959] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Up for knowledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/05/17 8:40:25 PM #3:	Tag --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:876621058] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/05/17 9:00:50 PM #4:	oaDOI, in turn, draws inspiration from DOAI (Digital Open Access Identifier), says Priem. DOAI is described on its homepage as an “alternate DOI resolver” that redirects requests to the free version of an article, if available, and otherwise to the paywalled paper itself. According to Piwowar, both oaDOI and Unpaywall include a nimble title-matching feature, which uses an algorithm to compare titles, forgiving spacing and punctuation differences. The idea is to overcome the fact that titles change in different versions of manuscripts, she explains. More than 600 libraries worldwide are using oaDOI, Priem says. The National Library of Sweden, for instance, uses oaDOI in their SwePub analysis system, which integrates the metadata of research published at all of Sweden’s research institutions. Hmm, well, sounds like it has promise, I'm still hesitant to implement it as a tool yet, however. I still think many important documents are guarded jealousy without rhyme and reason, and should be widely be made available and open, but some colleges and universities have very draconian policies when it comes to their documents. --- Proving Mr. Tennyson, proving, that of the two of us, you are by far the more substantial. https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:876622214] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><quote>oaDOI, in turn, draws inspiration from DOAI (Digital Open Access Identifier), says Priem. DOAI is described on its homepage as an “alternate DOI resolver” that redirects requests to the free version of an article, if available, and otherwise to the paywalled paper itself. According to Piwowar, both oaDOI and Unpaywall include a nimble title-matching feature, which uses an algorithm to compare titles, forgiving spacing and punctuation differences. The idea is to overcome the fact that titles change in different versions of manuscripts, she explains. More than 600 libraries worldwide are using oaDOI, Priem says. The National Library of Sweden, for instance, uses oaDOI in their SwePub analysis system, which integrates the metadata of research published at all of Sweden’s research institutions.</quote> Hmm, well, sounds like it has promise, I'm still hesitant to implement it as a tool yet, however. I still think many important documents are guarded jealousy without rhyme and reason, and should be widely be made available and open, but some colleges and universities have very draconian policies when it comes to their documents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/05/17 9:08:05 PM #5:	FlashOfLight posted... I still think many important documents are guarded jealousy without rhyme and reason, and should be widely be made available and open, but some colleges and universities have very draconian policies when it comes to their documents. Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876622638] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>FlashOfLight posted...</cite> <quote>I still think many important documents are guarded jealousy without rhyme and reason, and should be widely be made available and open, but some colleges and universities have very draconian policies when it comes to their documents.</quote> Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 04/05/17 9:10:33 PM #6:	very useful. --- People die when they are killed. Among horse, Red Hare. Among men, Lu Bu. <cite>monkmith posted [p:876622787] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>very useful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/05/17 9:14:04 PM #7:	COVxy posted... Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community. They really have to embrace modern methods, because it's not like the information contained in them is regarding nuclear weapons and how to operate them, but they contain valuable information that is crucial to the history of certain scientific research fields for the benefit of the future, in the long term, especially those areas of information dealing with how to preserve nature for the immediate generations that are coming along, and not to mention for the progress and development that will take place in the African continent, that needs to be prepared for how to deal with growing risks. I don't know, I still find access to these sources primitive in our day, and they really shouldn't be such a dilemma to acquire, but I understand the money requirements and other factors that may take place behind closed doors. --- Proving Mr. Tennyson, proving, that of the two of us, you are by far the more substantial. https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:876622978] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community.</quote> They really have to embrace modern methods, because it's not like the information contained in them is regarding nuclear weapons and how to operate them, but they contain valuable information that is crucial to the history of certain scientific research fields for the benefit of the future, in the long term, especially those areas of information dealing with how to preserve nature for the immediate generations that are coming along, and not to mention for the progress and development that will take place in the African continent, that needs to be prepared for how to deal with growing risks. I don't know, I still find access to these sources primitive in our day, and they really shouldn't be such a dilemma to acquire, but I understand the money requirements and other factors that may take place behind closed doors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 04/05/17 9:16:12 PM #8:	FlashOfLight posted... COVxy posted... Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community. They really have to embrace modern methods, because it's not like the information contained in them is regarding nuclear weapons and how to operate them, but they contain valuable information that is crucial to the history of certain scientific research fields for the benefit of the future, in the long term, especially those areas of information dealing with how to preserve nature for the immediate generations that are coming along, and not to mention for the progress and development that will take place in the African continent, that needs to be prepared for how to deal with growing risks. I don't know, I still find access to these sources primitive in our day, and they really shouldn't be such a dilemma to acquire, but I understand the money requirements and other factors that may take place behind closed doors. what's fun is that a good number of journal articles aren't online at all. i've had to wait days to get another uni to photocopy an article i needed. --- People die when they are killed. Among horse, Red Hare. Among men, Lu Bu. <cite>monkmith posted [p:876623110] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>FlashOfLight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community.</quote> They really have to embrace modern methods, because it's not like the information contained in them is regarding nuclear weapons and how to operate them, but they contain valuable information that is crucial to the history of certain scientific research fields for the benefit of the future, in the long term, especially those areas of information dealing with how to preserve nature for the immediate generations that are coming along, and not to mention for the progress and development that will take place in the African continent, that needs to be prepared for how to deal with growing risks. I don't know, I still find access to these sources primitive in our day, and they really shouldn't be such a dilemma to acquire, but I understand the money requirements and other factors that may take place behind closed doors.</quote> what's fun is that a good number of journal articles aren't online at all. i've had to wait days to get another uni to photocopy an article i needed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 04/05/17 9:17:23 PM #9:	Good. Information should be free <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:876623170] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Good. Information should be free</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/05/17 9:24:40 PM #10:	FlashOfLight posted... They really have to embrace modern methods I mean, it's not really that conservatism is the issue. The issue is that people are profiting on the current system, and researchers don't really have free choice to select or not select journals. So the contingencies are just hard to break. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876623568] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>FlashOfLight posted...</cite> <quote>They really have to embrace modern methods</quote> I mean, it's not really that conservatism is the issue. The issue is that people are profiting on the current system, and researchers don't really have free choice to select or not select journals. So the contingencies are just hard to break.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 10:08:42 AM #11:	Last bump for more access! --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876651584] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Last bump for more access!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/06/17 10:12:24 AM #12:	FlashOfLight posted... COVxy posted... Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community. They really have to embrace modern methods, because it's not like the information contained in them is regarding nuclear weapons and how to operate them, but they contain valuable information that is crucial to the history of certain scientific research fields for the benefit of the future, in the long term, especially those areas of information dealing with how to preserve nature for the immediate generations that are coming along, and not to mention for the progress and development that will take place in the African continent, that needs to be prepared for how to deal with growing risks. I don't know, I still find access to these sources primitive in our day, and they really shouldn't be such a dilemma to acquire, but I understand the money requirements and other factors that may take place behind closed doors. For the most part, if you require access to the historical papers, you'll have it for free because you'll be part of a university that includes it as a benefit. I think starting some kind of NPO to have kind of an open source journal would be a great idea. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:876651769] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>FlashOfLight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Paywalls have very little to do with universities, but with journals. The journal system is pretty awful. Universities and individuals pay for subscriptions, researchers pay journals to include their work for publication, and journals utilize researchers as a free resource for peer review. But it's not like people can protest and be like 'I'm no longer gonna publish in these journals' because you'd be sacrificing your career. More or less, the system is relatively fucked, and fixing it, if it'll happen at all, will only take place over a long period of time with large cultural shifts in the scientific community.</quote> They really have to embrace modern methods, because it's not like the information contained in them is regarding nuclear weapons and how to operate them, but they contain valuable information that is crucial to the history of certain scientific research fields for the benefit of the future, in the long term, especially those areas of information dealing with how to preserve nature for the immediate generations that are coming along, and not to mention for the progress and development that will take place in the African continent, that needs to be prepared for how to deal with growing risks. I don't know, I still find access to these sources primitive in our day, and they really shouldn't be such a dilemma to acquire, but I understand the money requirements and other factors that may take place behind closed doors.</quote> For the most part, if you require access to the historical papers, you'll have it for free because you'll be part of a university that includes it as a benefit. I think starting some kind of NPO to have kind of an open source journal would be a great idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cubs_WSC15 04/06/17 10:13:27 AM #13:	anything illegal about this? --- .defend.the.republic. http://twitter.com/brutus_lucius <cite>Cubs_WSC15 posted [p:876651824] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>anything illegal about this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/06/17 10:14:16 AM #14:	Has anyone used the tool yet to see it in action? I would test it myself, but I'm still hesitant to install anything else on my browser yet. --- Proving Mr. Tennyson, proving, that of the two of us, you are by far the more substantial. https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:876651860] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Has anyone used the tool yet to see it in action? I would test it myself, but I'm still hesitant to install anything else on my browser yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 10:14:39 AM #15:	Cubs_WSC15 posted... anything illegal about this? As legal as doing Google searches. It's just a super scraper as far as I can tell. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876651879] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cubs_WSC15 posted...</cite> <quote>anything illegal about this?</quote> As legal as doing Google searches. It's just a super scraper as far as I can tell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/06/17 10:14:41 AM #16:	That bathwater is getting a little dirty ;) --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:876651882] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>That bathwater is getting a little dirty ;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/06/17 10:16:11 AM #17:	ChromaticAngel posted... For the most part, if you require access to the historical papers, you'll have it for free because you'll be part of a university that includes it as a benefit. I think starting some kind of NPO to have kind of an open source journal would be a great idea. It's much needed I think, and it'll be a life saver for many students. --- Proving Mr. Tennyson, proving, that of the two of us, you are by far the more substantial. https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:876651956] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>For the most part, if you require access to the historical papers, you'll have it for free because you'll be part of a university that includes it as a benefit. I think starting some kind of NPO to have kind of an open source journal would be a great idea.</quote> It's much needed I think, and it'll be a life saver for many students.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cubs_WSC15 04/06/17 10:16:36 AM #18:	COVxy posted... Cubs_WSC15 posted... anything illegal about this? As legal as doing Google searches. It's just a super scraper as far as I can tell. well legal in that sense sure. sorta like how limewire was legal because it was just sharing files. but sharing copyrighted music was what was illegal. could this be similar or am i not understanding? --- .defend.the.republic. http://twitter.com/brutus_lucius <cite>Cubs_WSC15 posted [p:876651973] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cubs_WSC15 posted...</cite> <quote>anything illegal about this?</quote> As legal as doing Google searches. It's just a super scraper as far as I can tell.</quote> well legal in that sense sure. sorta like how limewire was legal because it was just sharing files. but sharing copyrighted music was what was illegal. could this be similar or am i not understanding?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 04/06/17 10:18:47 AM #19:	Tag --- Shout out to http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers for helping me understand maths! https://youtu.be/OLNpcjebpNQ #YouAreWelcomeHere <cite>teepan95 posted [p:876652082] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 10:19:32 AM #20:	Cubs_WSC15 posted... COVxy posted... Cubs_WSC15 posted... anything illegal about this? As legal as doing Google searches. It's just a super scraper as far as I can tell. well legal in that sense sure. sorta like how limewire was legal because it was just sharing files. but sharing copyrighted music was what was illegal. could this be similar or am i not understanding? Usually sharing single articles, especially for educational purposes, constitutes fair use, and so each individual link doesn't violate copyright. At least, that's my understanding. I could be wrong here. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876652124] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cubs_WSC15 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cubs_WSC15 posted...</cite> <quote>anything illegal about this?</quote> As legal as doing Google searches. It's just a super scraper as far as I can tell.</quote> well legal in that sense sure. sorta like how limewire was legal because it was just sharing files. but sharing copyrighted music was what was illegal. could this be similar or am i not understanding?</quote> Usually sharing single articles, especially for educational purposes, constitutes fair use, and so each individual link doesn't violate copyright. At least, that's my understanding. I could be wrong here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReignFury 04/06/17 10:19:59 AM #21:	Awesome --- MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN http://i.giftrunk.com/rv4b2c.gif <cite>ReignFury posted [p:876652141] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 10:44:30 AM #22:	iosifsvoboda posted... That bathwater is getting a little dirty ;) The fact that you see anything said in this topic as reason to discredit the scientific enterprise demonstrates that you don't really understand what you're reading. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876653360] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>That bathwater is getting a little dirty ;)</quote> The fact that you see anything said in this topic as reason to discredit the scientific enterprise demonstrates that you don't really understand what you're reading.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psycho_Poodle 04/06/17 10:46:04 AM #23:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Good. Information should be free would you say you are entitled to free information? --- ../\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_.. ( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-, ...I'm watching you... scum. <cite>Psycho_Poodle posted [p:876653458] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Information should be free</quote> would you say you are entitled to free information?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 04/06/17 10:49:08 AM #24:	Psycho_Poodle posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Good. Information should be free would you say you are entitled to free information? No, not me personally. I think everyone on the world is entitled to free information, to help make the world a better place <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:876653628] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>Psycho_Poodle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Information should be free</quote> would you say you are entitled to free information?</quote> No, not me personally. I think everyone on the world is entitled to free information, to help make the world a better place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/06/17 11:53:46 AM #25:	COVxy posted... iosifsvoboda posted... That bathwater is getting a little dirty ;) The fact that you see anything said in this topic as reason to discredit the scientific enterprise demonstrates that you don't really understand what you're reading. yeah obstructing progress in the name of profits doesn't discredit the scientific enterprise. AT ALL LMAO --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:876657247] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>That bathwater is getting a little dirty ;)</quote> The fact that you see anything said in this topic as reason to discredit the scientific enterprise demonstrates that you don't really understand what you're reading.</quote> yeah obstructing progress in the name of profits doesn't discredit the scientific enterprise. AT ALL LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HydraSlayer82 04/06/17 11:57:14 AM #26:	Bookmarked --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:876657452] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Bookmarked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 12:09:37 PM #27:	iosifsvoboda posted... yeah obstructing progress in the name of profits doesn't discredit the scientific enterprise. AT ALL LMAO The system has flaws and puts too much weight on the researchers themselves, but what does that have to do with disbelief in the results of science? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876658184] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote> yeah obstructing progress in the name of profits doesn't discredit the scientific enterprise. AT ALL LMAO</quote> The system has flaws and puts too much weight on the researchers themselves, but what does that have to do with disbelief in the results of science?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/06/17 12:18:14 PM #28:	impediment to communication and studywide cooperation is an impediment to progress and greater truthlikeness. How many theories are developed solely by a single team? When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected. --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:876658694] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>impediment to communication and studywide cooperation is an impediment to progress and greater truthlikeness. How many theories are developed solely by a single team? When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 04/06/17 12:24:21 PM #29:	iosifsvoboda posted... When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected. The second part doesn't follow logically from the first. --- Shout out to http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers for helping me understand maths! https://youtu.be/OLNpcjebpNQ #YouAreWelcomeHere <cite>teepan95 posted [p:876659059] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected.</quote> The second part doesn't follow logically from the first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/06/17 1:03:03 PM #30:	teepan95 posted... iosifsvoboda posted... When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected. The second part doesn't follow logically from the first. Why not --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:876661480] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected.</quote> The second part doesn't follow logically from the first.</quote> Why not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 1:44:58 PM #31:	iosifsvoboda posted... teepan95 posted... iosifsvoboda posted... When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected. The second part doesn't follow logically from the first. Why not How does the first affect the purity? It's more like it's slightly harder for researchers. You are starting with your conclusion that science is corrupted and trying to reason backwards, that much is clear. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876664271] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote><cite>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>When you have to have someone else somewhere else photocopy a study that would greatly assist in your pursuit of truthlikeness because you dont have access, the purity of each and every step of the scientific method is greatly affected.</quote> The second part doesn't follow logically from the first.</quote> Why not</quote> How does the first affect the purity? It's more like it's slightly harder for researchers. You are starting with your conclusion that science is corrupted and trying to reason backwards, that much is clear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/06/17 2:20:17 PM #32:	How can you make an informed hypothesis, test, data, interpretation and conclusion when you don't even have access to the community you are a member of? --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:876666814] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>How can you make an informed hypothesis, test, data, interpretation and conclusion when you don't even have access to the community you are a member of?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 2:23:48 PM #33:	iosifsvoboda posted... How can you make an informed hypothesis, test, data, interpretation and conclusion when you don't even have access to the community you are a member of? The community largely has full access, except for non-digitized articles, which are a rarity. And even then there are systems in place to get them. What topic primarily geared towards is those not within the science community to gain access. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876667047] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>How can you make an informed hypothesis, test, data, interpretation and conclusion when you don't even have access to the community you are a member of? </quote> The community largely has full access, except for non-digitized articles, which are a rarity. And even then there are systems in place to get them. What topic primarily geared towards is those not within the science community to gain access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/06/17 2:45:14 PM #34:	Didn't you yourself just say you had to have a colleague photocopy an article? And also why should laymen have access? Any field is inherently going to have so much jargon a layman or scientist outside of that field isn't going to understand a lick of it anyway --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:876668569] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote>Didn't you yourself just say you had to have a colleague photocopy an article? And also why should laymen have access? Any field is inherently going to have so much jargon a layman or scientist outside of that field isn't going to understand a lick of it anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/06/17 5:05:13 PM #35:	iosifsvoboda posted... Didn't you yourself just say you had to have a colleague photocopy an article? And also why should laymen have access? Any field is inherently going to have so much jargon a layman or scientist outside of that field isn't going to understand a lick of it anyway No, I didn't. Typically the way it works is that if an article is not available, either because the article is so old and so uncited that it isn't digitize or your university doesn't happen to have that particular subscription for the particular year that article was published, the university library will find it for you, either in their own archive or via another university, and upload it for you. You put in a request and typically within 24 hours you have the article you want, no matter how obscure and old. Either way, this is an incredibly rare occurrence. I put in like two requests a year. And it's important for the lay public to have access to the scientific literature. It's not really hard to learn a jargon, first of all. Second of all, many important findings are completely accessible to a lay person. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:876678029] in New tool t... [t:75202696]...</cite> <quote><cite>iosifsvoboda posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't you yourself just say you had to have a colleague photocopy an article? And also why should laymen have access? Any field is inherently going to have so much jargon a layman or scientist outside of that field isn't going to understand a lick of it anyway</quote> No, I didn't. Typically the way it works is that if an article is not available, either because the article is so old and so uncited that it isn't digitize or your university doesn't happen to have that particular subscription for the particular year that article was published, the university library will find it for you, either in their own archive or via another university, and upload it for you. You put in a request and typically within 24 hours you have the article you want, no matter how obscure and old. Either way, this is an incredibly rare occurrence. I put in like two requests a year. And it's important for the lay public to have access to the scientific literature. It's not really hard to learn a jargon, first of all. Second of all, many important findings are completely accessible to a lay person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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