Poll of the Day > Three teen burglars shot and killed by homeowner's son.

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WastelandCowboy 03/28/17 9:16:35 PM #1:	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39413376 Three teenagers who broke into a home in Oklahoma were killed by the homeowner's son firing an assault-style AR-15, say police. "They were dressed in black, all had masks on, and all had gloves on," Deputy Nick Mahoney told reporters. The intruders - who police say were armed with brass knuckles and a knife - were shot by a 23-year-old man in an act of "self-defence", officers said. The son may not face charges due to so-called stand your ground laws. "This may be a case of 'stand-your-ground,' however, it's still too early to say for sure, and we're still looking into all aspects of this," Mr Mahoney told local media. He was referring to the laws in some states that say a citizen can legally use lethal force if they feel that their life in is imminent danger. Two of the teenagers died inside the home and one ran outside before dying in the driveway. The teenagers broke through a sliding glass door in the back of the house before encountering the homeowner's adult son, who was armed with an AR-15 assault-style rifle, police say. The man, who authorities say also lives at the address with his father, opened fire on the teens after they had a "short exchange of words". Authorities say they have no reason to believe the home residents knew the teens. Two of the teens are under 17 years old and one is between 18 and 19. A fourth person has been arrested and is facing murder and burglary charges. Elizabeth Marie Rodriguez, 21, turned herself in at the Broken Arrow police station and has admitted to serving as a getaway driver. Nearby residents tell local media that there have been a string of burglaries in the area, but police have made no link. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:876064810] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39413376 <quote>Three teenagers who broke into a home in Oklahoma were killed by the homeowner's son firing an assault-style AR-15, say police. "They were dressed in black, all had masks on, and all had gloves on," Deputy Nick Mahoney told reporters. The intruders - who police say were armed with brass knuckles and a knife - were shot by a 23-year-old man in an act of "self-defence", officers said. The son may not face charges due to so-called stand your ground laws. "This may be a case of 'stand-your-ground,' however, it's still too early to say for sure, and we're still looking into all aspects of this," Mr Mahoney told local media. He was referring to the laws in some states that say a citizen can legally use lethal force if they feel that their life in is imminent danger. Two of the teenagers died inside the home and one ran outside before dying in the driveway. The teenagers broke through a sliding glass door in the back of the house before encountering the homeowner's adult son, who was armed with an AR-15 assault-style rifle, police say. The man, who authorities say also lives at the address with his father, opened fire on the teens after they had a "short exchange of words". Authorities say they have no reason to believe the home residents knew the teens. Two of the teens are under 17 years old and one is between 18 and 19. A fourth person has been arrested and is facing murder and burglary charges. Elizabeth Marie Rodriguez, 21, turned herself in at the Broken Arrow police station and has admitted to serving as a getaway driver. Nearby residents tell local media that there have been a string of burglaries in the area, but police have made no link.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 03/28/17 9:31:59 PM #2:	Gun used as intended success --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:876065764] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Gun used as intended success</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 03/28/17 9:32:06 PM #3:	I'm ok with this. --- John Mellencamp said it best "Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:876065772] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>I'm ok with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aHappySacka 03/28/17 9:32:34 PM #4:	Ban assault burglars. --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. http://i.imgur.com/91NC0Cb.mp4 <cite>aHappySacka posted [p:876065791] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Ban assault burglars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/28/17 9:33:16 PM #5:	Oh, assumed the kid would be younger >_> At any rate, he was facing armed intruders. Unfortunately for them, he was better armed. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:876065831] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Oh, assumed the kid would be younger >_> At any rate, he was facing armed intruders. Unfortunately for them, he was better armed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 03/28/17 9:40:22 PM #6:	Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim? --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:876066283] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
acesxhigh 03/28/17 9:50:27 PM #7:	Today in Ancapistan: --- http://www.last.fm/user/pr0wnage420 <cite>acesxhigh posted [p:876066900] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Today in Ancapistan:</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jackal4 03/28/17 9:51:47 PM #8:	The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her. --- What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. -Harry Caray <cite>Jackal4 posted [p:876066979] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 03/28/17 9:54:43 PM #9:	Assault style AR-15? Ehhhhhhhhhh.... wut --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:876067149] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Assault style AR-15? Ehhhhhhhhhh.... wut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 03/28/17 9:56:21 PM #10:	Props to the son. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:876067260] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Props to the son.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/28/17 9:57:05 PM #11:	Veedrock- posted... Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim? Liberals, mostly. The UK and some other countries have gone so far to suggest a "Duty to Retreat" where, if you're being attacked by somebody intent on killing you, you have to demonstrate that you took every available effort to escape the encounter before killing them in self-defense. Bearing in mind that even in the US, most times if you execute an already-incapacitated attacker you'll likely get in trouble over it with the possible exception of either the Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground. In general, though, when you're attacked within your home and retaliate that generally is seen to fall more under the Castle Doctrine whereas SYG is really intended to extend the right of the Castle Doctrine to broader self-defense outside of a property you own. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:876067308] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim?</quote> Liberals, mostly. The UK and some other countries have gone so far to suggest a "Duty to Retreat" where, if you're being attacked by somebody intent on killing you, you have to demonstrate that you took every available effort to escape the encounter before killing them in self-defense. Bearing in mind that even in the US, most times if you execute an already-incapacitated attacker you'll likely get in trouble over it with the possible exception of either the Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground. In general, though, when you're attacked within your home and retaliate that generally is seen to fall more under the Castle Doctrine whereas SYG is really intended to extend the right of the Castle Doctrine to broader self-defense outside of a property you own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 03/28/17 10:38:14 PM #12:	Jackal4 posted... The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her. If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths. It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:876069899] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jackal4 posted...</cite> <quote>The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her.</quote> If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths. It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 03/28/17 10:40:54 PM #13:	Good. Three fewer burglars. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "This Mead guy is an real jerk, I'm outta here" -brisashi <cite>Mead posted [p:876070066] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Good. Three fewer burglars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 03/28/17 10:44:12 PM #14:	Bugmeat posted... I'm ok with this. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:876070291] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bugmeat posted...</cite> <quote>I'm ok with this.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 03/28/17 10:44:48 PM #15:	Has it been confirmed that they were burglars? If someone's brazen enough to break into someone's home when they're not away, that's not necessarily the reason they're there. Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:876070328] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Has it been confirmed that they were burglars? If someone's brazen enough to break into someone's home when they're not away, that's not necessarily the reason they're there. Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 03/28/17 10:48:09 PM #16:	Burglin' ain't easy --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:876070507] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Burglin' ain't easy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 03/28/17 10:55:36 PM #17:	Golden Road posted... Has it been confirmed that they were burglars? If someone's brazen enough to break into someone's home when they're not away, that's not necessarily the reason they're there. If they were indeed armed it's kinda hard to think they were anything but buglers. Exactly who are they trying to defend against if they're the intruders? Golden Road posted... Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. Though I'll agree it is unfortunate some lives were lost and some parent(s) out there now have a child to bury one must understand that certain actions have dire consequences and those teenagers failed to understand that. They may have been young and foolish but that does not excuse them. We can't always go about using the reasoning "kids will be kids". They need to learn to take personal responsibility and unfortunately this lack of understanding costed them their lives. Others have done similar mistakes before with drunk driving or accidental shooting of a friend or family member. EDIT: At the same time I can't help but wonder what would lead these teenagers to do this. Did they think it'll be easy money or were simply desperate for the cash. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:876070940] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Has it been confirmed that they were burglars? If someone's brazen enough to break into someone's home when they're not away, that's not necessarily the reason they're there.</quote> If they were indeed armed it's kinda hard to think they were anything but buglers. Exactly who are they trying to defend against if they're the intruders? <cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> Though I'll agree it is unfortunate some lives were lost and some parent(s) out there now have a child to bury one must understand that certain actions have dire consequences and those teenagers failed to understand that. They may have been young and foolish but that does not excuse them. We can't always go about using the reasoning "kids will be kids". They need to learn to take personal responsibility and unfortunately this lack of understanding costed them their lives. Others have done similar mistakes before with drunk driving or accidental shooting of a friend or family member. EDIT: At the same time I can't help but wonder what would lead these teenagers to do this. Did they think it'll be easy money or were simply desperate for the cash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 03/28/17 10:57:20 PM #18:	Golden Road posted... Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. I couldn't disagree more. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "This Mead guy is an real jerk, I'm outta here" -brisashi <cite>Mead posted [p:876071023] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. </quote> I couldn't disagree more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 03/28/17 11:10:40 PM #19:	Fair, next. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:876071795] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/28/17 11:20:50 PM #20:	I love this story because not only are they not charging the guy for killing the home invaders they are charging the stupid idiot getaway driver woman with three counts of first degree murder due to a law in Oklahoma. God bless the Midwest. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:876072419] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>I love this story because not only are they not charging the guy for killing the home invaders they are charging the stupid idiot getaway driver woman with three counts of first degree murder due to a law in Oklahoma. God bless the Midwest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 03/28/17 11:29:13 PM #21:	Mead posted... I couldn't disagree more. Gotta back up Mead on this one. Violent criminals getting shot is some of the best news anyone can hope for. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:876072889] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I couldn't disagree more.</quote> Gotta back up Mead on this one. Violent criminals getting shot is some of the best news anyone can hope for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/28/17 11:30:41 PM #22:	adjl posted... Jackal4 posted... The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her. If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths. It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to. First I've heard of that. Is it a named legal principle which I could easily look up? Golden Road posted... Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. Pretty much. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:876072979] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jackal4 posted...</cite> <quote>The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her.</quote> If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths. It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to.</quote> First I've heard of that. Is it a named legal principle which I could easily look up? <cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> Pretty much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 03/28/17 11:31:59 PM #23:	Golden Road posted... Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. I'd be a little more sympathetic if the burglars weren't armed. As it was, though, they were presenting a clear threat to the guy's life, and responding to that with lethal defensive force was absolutely reasonable. If they didn't want to die, they shouldn't have threatened to kill somebody. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:876073047] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> I'd be a little more sympathetic if the burglars weren't armed. As it was, though, they were presenting a clear threat to the guy's life, and responding to that with lethal defensive force was absolutely reasonable. If they didn't want to die, they shouldn't have threatened to kill somebody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Claude_Frollo 03/28/17 11:55:13 PM #24:	I can't stand people who would object to the use of self-defense like this. --- "Look man, no matter how much you kiss up to me, I'm not gonna indulge in your fetish" - DorkLink, the best poster on GameFAQs <cite>Claude_Frollo posted [p:876074395] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>I can't stand people who would object to the use of self-defense like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 03/29/17 12:00:11 AM #25:	deserved --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:876074673] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>deserved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 03/29/17 12:15:46 AM #26:	Jen0125 posted... I love this story because not only are they not charging the guy for killing the home invaders they are charging the stupid idiot getaway driver woman with three counts of first degree murder due to a law in Oklahoma. God bless the Midwest. That's amazing. Fuck those little bastards, that's what they get for breaking in to someone's home. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:876075536] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>I love this story because not only are they not charging the guy for killing the home invaders they are charging the stupid idiot getaway driver woman with three counts of first degree murder due to a law in Oklahoma. God bless the Midwest.</quote> That's amazing. Fuck those little bastards, that's what they get for breaking in to someone's home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 03/29/17 12:20:18 AM #27:	Golden Road posted... It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. They broke in with at least one knife and fucking brass knuckles. I think it's safe to say they weren't just there to say hello. --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:876075796] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> They broke in with at least one knife and fucking brass knuckles. I think it's safe to say they weren't just there to say hello.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 03/29/17 12:24:26 AM #28:	Should have shot em all in the nuts and let em bleed out, but oh well. --- No duckies, just drowning. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:876076013] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Should have shot em all in the nuts and let em bleed out, but oh well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 03/29/17 1:12:14 AM #29:	Zeus posted... Veedrock- posted... Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim? Liberals, mostly. The UK and some other countries have gone so far to suggest a "Duty to Retreat" where, if you're being attacked by somebody intent on killing you, you have to demonstrate that you took every available effort to escape the encounter before killing them in self-defense. Bearing in mind that even in the US, most times if you execute an already-incapacitated attacker you'll likely get in trouble over it with the possible exception of either the Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground. In general, though, when you're attacked within your home and retaliate that generally is seen to fall more under the Castle Doctrine whereas SYG is really intended to extend the right of the Castle Doctrine to broader self-defense outside of a property you own. sadly in california it doesn't matter if someone breaks in and is stealing something. unless they try to attack you/someone you can get in trouble for shooting them --- Kill From The Shadows <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:876078191] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Why does this even require "stand your ground" as a defense? Who is possibly trying to press charges against the victim?</quote> Liberals, mostly. The UK and some other countries have gone so far to suggest a "Duty to Retreat" where, if you're being attacked by somebody intent on killing you, you have to demonstrate that you took every available effort to escape the encounter before killing them in self-defense. Bearing in mind that even in the US, most times if you execute an already-incapacitated attacker you'll likely get in trouble over it with the possible exception of either the Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground. In general, though, when you're attacked within your home and retaliate that generally is seen to fall more under the Castle Doctrine whereas SYG is really intended to extend the right of the Castle Doctrine to broader self-defense outside of a property you own.</quote> sadly in california it doesn't matter if someone breaks in and is stealing something. unless they try to attack you/someone you can get in trouble for shooting them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 03/29/17 1:13:55 AM #30:	Lokarin posted... Assault style AR-15? Ehhhhhhhhhh.... wut Musta been one'a dem fully automatic semi-automatic guns. But, hey, doesn't "assault style" sound so much more menacing? --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES) -- started 3/20/2017 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:876078261] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Assault style AR-15? Ehhhhhhhhhh.... wut</quote> Musta been one'a dem fully automatic semi-automatic guns. But, hey, doesn't "assault style" sound so much more menacing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 03/29/17 1:16:30 AM #31:	Zeus posted... adjl posted... Jackal4 posted... The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her. If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths. It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to. First I've heard of that. Is it a named legal principle which I could easily look up? Golden Road posted... Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. Pretty much. except they had clear intent to commit severe bodily harm at the very least. i don't have a problem celebrating or congratulating him. hopefully someone else will think twice before trying to rob someone. look up felony murder rule for being charged. --- Kill From The Shadows <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:876078361] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jackal4 posted...</cite> <quote>The burglars got what they deserved. The part I have a problem with is the getaway driver being charged with their murder when they were willing participants just like her.</quote> If somebody dies as a consequence of criminal activity, all involved parties in that criminal activity are on the hook for those deaths, which are typically considered murder in such cases. You see similar charges laid if a pair tries robbing a store: if one of them is killed by the owner in self-defense, the other can be charged with their murder. Those other people are dead because she drove them there, thus she is responsible for their deaths. It's a bit of a logical stretch, yes, but it's not one I really object to.</quote> First I've heard of that. Is it a named legal principle which I could easily look up? <cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>Either way, this isn't something to celebrate. It's not wrong that he shot them, but it's not like "yay, they totes deserved to die!" It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> Pretty much.</quote> except they had clear intent to commit severe bodily harm at the very least. i don't have a problem celebrating or congratulating him. hopefully someone else will think twice before trying to rob someone. look up felony murder rule for being charged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cute_fan 03/29/17 5:27:40 AM #32:	Nice to see some good news for a change. \^.^/ Justice has been served, and those three burglars won't be committing any more burglaries. ^.~ stand your ground laws Oklahoma, OK! cheers \^.^/ --- cuteness ^.^ <cite>cute_fan posted [p:876085579] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Nice to see some good news for a change. \^.^/ Justice has been served, and those three burglars won't be committing any more burglaries. ^.~ <quote>stand your ground laws</quote> Oklahoma, OK! cheers \^.^/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 03/29/17 5:58:44 AM #33:	Smarkil posted... Golden Road posted... It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. They broke in with at least one knife and fucking brass knuckles. I think it's safe to say they weren't just there to say hello. The more i read these conversations the more i realize something about the story. I don't think they were there for burglary. I think they were there to kill someone. --- i7-5820K 3.3GHz, Asus X99-DELUXE, Corsair H110i GTX, 850 EVO 1TB, EVGA GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX2.0, Corsair 760T, EVGA 850W, Orion Spark, Proteus Core, Benq BL3200PT <cite>yutterh posted [p:876086170] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> They broke in with at least one knife and fucking brass knuckles. I think it's safe to say they weren't just there to say hello.</quote> The more i read these conversations the more i realize something about the story. I don't think they were there for burglary. I think they were there to kill someone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaTomHank 03/29/17 7:04:27 AM #34:	Of course they were there to rob the guy. You carry weapons with you during a robbery in case you need to intimidate or repel the person defending their property. They didnt even take particularly lethal weapons. Knives and brass knuckles are more for intimidation than practical murder. Unless you are a goddamn assassin. This board is so naive <cite>OmegaTomHank posted [p:876087576] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Of course they were there to rob the guy. You carry weapons with you during a robbery in case you need to intimidate or repel the person defending their property. They didnt even take particularly lethal weapons. Knives and brass knuckles are more for intimidation than practical murder. Unless you are a goddamn assassin. This board is so naive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 03/29/17 7:10:46 AM #35:	cute_fan posted... Nice to see some good news for a change. \^.^/ Justice has been served, and those three burglars won't be committing any more burglaries. ^.~ stand your ground laws Oklahoma, OK! cheers \^.^/ Your gimmick is weird. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:876087723] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>cute_fan posted...</cite> <quote>Nice to see some good news for a change. \^.^/ Justice has been served, and those three burglars won't be committing any more burglaries. ^.~ <quote>stand your ground laws</quote> Oklahoma, OK! cheers \^.^/</quote> Your gimmick is weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myghostisdead 03/29/17 7:56:43 AM #36:	That is what you get. <cite>myghostisdead posted [p:876088854] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>That is what you get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerz4Justice 03/29/17 8:00:19 AM #37:	Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. These are young foolish kids who lost their life to another foolish trigger happy kid. The shooter should at least get manslaughter charges. <cite>Gamerz4Justice posted [p:876088948] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. These are young foolish kids who lost their life to another foolish trigger happy kid. The shooter should at least get manslaughter charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 03/29/17 8:49:48 AM #38:	The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right? --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:876090526] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 03/29/17 8:54:11 AM #39:	Gamerz4Justice posted... Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:876090689] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. </quote> You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerz4Justice 03/29/17 9:01:08 AM #40:	rexcrk posted... The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right? Kyuubi4269 posted... Gamerz4Justice posted... Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense. If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you. <cite>Gamerz4Justice posted [p:876090946] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>rexcrk posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right?</quote> <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. </quote> You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense.</quote> If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 03/29/17 9:05:01 AM #41:	Gamerz4Justice posted... rexcrk posted... The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right? Kyuubi4269 posted... Gamerz4Justice posted... Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense. If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you. I think they deserve to die for invading a person's home with intent to steal his valuables and murder him if he interferes. They're monsters that deserve worse than they got. Btw, I have no problem stabbing muggers to death, they're scum. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:876091097] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rexcrk posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right?</quote> <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. </quote> You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense.</quote> If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you.</quote> I think they deserve to die for invading a person's home with intent to steal his valuables and murder him if he interferes. They're monsters that deserve worse than they got. Btw, I have no problem stabbing muggers to death, they're scum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dragon504 03/29/17 9:25:47 AM #42:	This is like the perfect outcome to this crime. Dead criminals and an example of the legal consequences as well. --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/dragon504 http://followmy.tv/u/dragon504/time_wasted <cite>dragon504 posted [p:876091919] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>This is like the perfect outcome to this crime. Dead criminals and an example of the legal consequences as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 03/29/17 9:26:55 AM #43:	Smarkil posted... Golden Road posted... It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them. They broke in with at least one knife and fucking brass knuckles. I think it's safe to say they weren't just there to say hello. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:876091959] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>It's unfortunate, but who knows how it might have ended if this guy didn't shoot them.</quote> They broke in with at least one knife and fucking brass knuckles. I think it's safe to say they weren't just there to say hello.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Firewood18 03/29/17 9:29:36 AM #45:	As long as all the bullet wound entry points were on the front of the burglars, I have no problem with the shooter. --- Nobody is perfect. Well, one guy was but we killed him. <cite>Firewood18 posted [p:876092051] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>As long as all the bullet wound entry points were on the front of the burglars, I have no problem with the shooter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 03/29/17 9:43:19 AM #46:	Firewood18 posted... As long as all the bullet wound entry points were on the front of the burglars, I have no problem with the shooter. I don't think I would be that upset with him if he had shot them in the back. These were armed intruders. It turns out they just had a knife and some brass knuckles, but they could have just as easily had a gun. Should he have to risk playing gun slinger? Should he offer them the chance for a duel at 20 paces? Give them one chance to put their hands behind their heads and surrender. If they make any sudden moves shoot them because you have no idea what they will do next. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:876092651] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Firewood18 posted...</cite> <quote>As long as all the bullet wound entry points were on the front of the burglars, I have no problem with the shooter.</quote> I don't think I would be that upset with him if he had shot them in the back. These were armed intruders. It turns out they just had a knife and some brass knuckles, but they could have just as easily had a gun. Should he have to risk playing gun slinger? Should he offer them the chance for a duel at 20 paces? Give them one chance to put their hands behind their heads and surrender. If they make any sudden moves shoot them because you have no idea what they will do next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 03/29/17 10:05:21 AM #47:	wwinterj25 posted... Fair, next. And this is a British guy posting this. It is official, this case is closed. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:876093571] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote> And this is a British guy posting this. It is official, this case is closed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 03/29/17 10:30:54 AM #48:	Gamerz4Justice posted... rexcrk posted... The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right? Kyuubi4269 posted... Gamerz4Justice posted... Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense. If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you. Oh come on. They were armed robbers. Something tells me if you went out and said "hi there, please don't rob me :)" they wouldn't have just turned tail and said "oh, sorry, fam. Won't happen again. Good day" Yeah it sucks that they died, but they shouldn't have been doing that in the first place. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:876094740] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rexcrk posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right?</quote> <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. </quote> You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense.</quote> If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you.</quote> Oh come on. They were armed robbers. Something tells me if you went out and said "hi there, please don't rob me :)" they wouldn't have just turned tail and said "oh, sorry, fam. Won't happen again. Good day" Yeah it sucks that they died, but they shouldn't have been doing that in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 03/29/17 10:38:24 AM #49:	Gamerz4Justice posted... rexcrk posted... The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right? Kyuubi4269 posted... Gamerz4Justice posted... Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense. If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you. If you think teenagers aren't old enough to realize "Hmm, being a burglar is both a shitty, and dangerous occupation", you need to grow up. These little shits got exactly what they deserved, because they can't harm an innocent person anymore. Note the keyword - innocent. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:876095108] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rexcrk posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that there are people defending the robbers is just.. ugh. You're not serious, right?</quote> <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerz4Justice posted...</cite> <quote>Last time I checked burglary wasn't a thing that deserved the death penalty. </quote> You didn't check properly. In the UK if you're seen burgling it becomes aggravated burglary and you get 15 years and the person can kill in self-defense.</quote> If you seriously think that teenagers deserve to die for stealing something then there is something seriously morally wrong with you.</quote> If you think teenagers aren't old enough to realize "Hmm, being a burglar is both a shitty, and dangerous occupation", you need to grow up. These little shits got exactly what they deserved, because they can't harm an innocent person anymore. Note the keyword - innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 03/29/17 10:52:08 AM #50:	anti trump posters want him to go to jail so badly --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:876095825] in Three teen... [t:75169982]...</cite> <quote>anti trump posters want him to go to jail so badly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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