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Not_Wylvane
07/01/12 7:54:00 AM
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300 posts of this topic will be dedicated to Luster's in-depth analysis of carbonated beverage polls.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://www.thengamer.com/
http://thengamer.com/xstats

~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 11:01:00 AM
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Darn you, Wylvane.

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Not_Wylvane
07/01/12 11:15:00 AM
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Something has to keep these topics going during the offseason. I'm pretty sure every bit of contest minutiae worth discussing has already been mined in the past ten years of contests and offseasons. All we really have left is Luster spending more time analyzing each regular poll than most people do the actual contests.

Goofy or not, he's pretty much single-handedly keeping the Stats topics alive at this point.

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Not_Wylvane
07/03/12 3:07:00 AM
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Maybe I made this too soon. The other topic has a week's worth of posts to go!

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-LusterSoldier-
07/05/12 3:28:00 AM
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Not_Wylvane posted...
Something has to keep these topics going during the offseason. I'm pretty sure every bit of contest minutiae worth discussing has already been mined in the past ten years of contests and offseasons. All we really have left is Luster spending more time analyzing each regular poll than most people do the actual contests.


During the past month, I've only posted trend charts for 2 polls. 2 polls out of the last 30 we've had. I did the trend chart for the continent poll and also a trend chart for the "Hot enough for ya?" poll. I also did a trend chart for the poll about subtitles/dubbing in Japanese video games, but I never posted those because they weren't extreme enough.

Not_Wylvane posted...
300 posts of this topic will be dedicated to Luster's in-depth analysis of carbonated beverage polls.


XD at Wylvane.

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-LusterSoldier-
07/05/12 6:31:00 PM
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Polls for the next several days:

7/6/2012 - Got PlayStation 3?
7/7/2012 - Got Vita?
7/8/2012 - Got Wii?
7/9/2012 - Got Xbox 360?
7/10/2012 - Got Smartphone?
7/11/2012 - Got Tablet?
7/12/2012 - Got a gaming-quality PC?

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-LusterSoldier-
07/05/12 9:24:00 PM
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3DS ownership is now currently at 36.11% as of yesterday's poll. I just updated this list again:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDZFV2I1SFl4VXFDMjQ2RmJqUXJTd0E

The 3DS has been gaining very little ownership since last Christmas. Ownership has only gone up by 2.56% since last year's Christmas. I imagine the 3DS won't be gaining much ownership at all until the 3DS XL comes out.

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-LusterSoldier-
07/06/12 4:17:00 AM
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neonreaper posted...
Luster what is your favorite poll from the first half of 2012?


The continent poll. It has the most extreme trends. Besides the continent poll, it would also be the soda poll and the age poll. This year's age poll was more boring because the trends were much weaker as a result of being on the weekend.

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Boudii
07/06/12 9:09:00 PM
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no one cares about the Vita

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-LusterSoldier-
07/06/12 9:14:00 PM
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Vita is still struggling nearly 5 months later. Vita's ownership right now is almost identical to what the 3DS had on its launch date, and that's considering the Vita has already been out for nearly 5 months.

I thought the Vita would have better ownership than this, based off of this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4637

Vita had 6.68% ownership in that poll, with another 6.58% saying that they plan on getting it soon. Out of the 6.58% that said they would be getting one soon, only 3.62% of those people actually got a Vita (bringing ownership up to 10.30% right now).

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Boudii
07/07/12 9:09:00 PM
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"No, I'm done with Nintendo consoles"

wow that's extreme

I voted 'Yes, but I don't really play it anymore' although I still play from time to time, mainly my precious FE games.

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-LusterSoldier-
07/07/12 9:12:00 PM
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Over 45% of the site rarely or never plays their Wii anymore? Hot damn, that's insane. More extreme than I was expecting. That also ties in very strongly with the decline of the Wii on this site.

Update on system ownership:

PS3 is now at 64.51%, previously at 63.28% in the last PS3 poll. Vita is now at 12.17%, previously at 6.68%.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/07/12 11:31:00 PM
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I voted for the first option. I don't have my Wii yet but I have loose plans of replaying some Zelda and Metroid games soon.
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foxhead84
07/08/12 8:44:00 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I voted for the first option. I don't have my Wii yet but I have loose plans of replaying some Zelda and Metroid games soon.


Hey hey, just like me... I don't have a Wii, but since I have a cousin who almost bought one, I voted for the first option... XD

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XIII_rocks
07/08/12 8:53:00 AM
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From: -LusterSoldier- | #008
neonreaper posted...
Luster what is your favorite poll from the first half of 2012?


The continent poll. It has the most extreme trends. Besides the continent poll, it would also be the soda poll and the age poll. This year's age poll was more boring because the trends were much weaker as a result of being on the weekend.


Luster literally told me when I should vote, such was his interest in the continent poll

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LinkMarioSamus
07/08/12 11:14:00 AM
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foxhead84 posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
I voted for the first option. I don't have my Wii yet but I have loose plans of replaying some Zelda and Metroid games soon.


Hey hey, just like me... I don't have a Wii, but since I have a cousin who almost bought one, I voted for the first option... XD


Well I already own a Wii and have owned one since the 2007 Winter Holidays. I simply don't have it with me right now, but I will in about 2-3 weeks.
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Not_Wylvane
07/09/12 5:12:00 AM
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From: XIII_rocks | #015
From: -LusterSoldier- | #008
neonreaper posted...
Luster what is your favorite poll from the first half of 2012?


The continent poll. It has the most extreme trends. Besides the continent poll, it would also be the soda poll and the age poll. This year's age poll was more boring because the trends were much weaker as a result of being on the weekend.


Luster literally told me when I should vote, such was his interest in the continent poll

But that would be influencing the trends! What kind of statistical analyst would try to manipulate data to befit his view of how the data should look?

Oh yeah, a lot of them.

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Team Rocket Elite
07/10/12 9:35:00 PM
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Bump

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-LusterSoldier-
07/10/12 10:40:00 PM
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Xbox 360 ownership went from 59.40% (in the 7/6/2011 poll) to 59.64% in the recent batch of "Got Console?" polls. I think the Xbox 360 has a chance of breaking 60% ownership eventually.

iPhone also improved itself by going from 17.83% to 19.56%. However, it was the Android that got a bigger boost, as it went from 29.55% to 33.85% in a span of about 6 1/2 months.

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Team Rocket Elite
07/12/12 8:14:00 PM
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Bump

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Not_Wylvane
07/13/12 5:35:00 AM
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I guess LoL won't be lighting any fires in these contests. Well, maybe the game itself could edge above the fodder line, but I certainly wouldn't waste time nominating any heroes from it.

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Kotetsu534
07/13/12 5:49:00 AM
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From Christmas 2011 till the latest round of polls, PS3 ownership increased from 63.28% to 64.51%, or by 1.23%. 3DS ownership, over the same period, increased from 33.55% to 36.11%, or by 2.56%. I'd expected the 3DS to jump up a bit quicker than that.

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pjbasis
07/13/12 8:02:00 AM
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I think LoL could go a few rounds with good placement in a games contest.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/13/12 8:48:00 AM
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Would you pick League of Legends to beat any of the following?

Grand Theft Auto IV
Sonic Adventure
Ico
Skies of Arcadia
Soulcalibur
Gears of War
Persona 4

I'd probably pick LoL to beat all of them other than GTAIV and Gears.
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-LusterSoldier-
07/13/12 8:49:00 AM
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LoL won't win more than one match in a games contest. Not when it currently has a playrate of 25.73%. By comparison, WoW has a playrate of 40.66% in a poll near the end of 2010.

Kotetsu534 posted...
From Christmas 2011 till the latest round of polls, PS3 ownership increased from 63.28% to 64.51%, or by 1.23%. 3DS ownership, over the same period, increased from 33.55% to 36.11%, or by 2.56%. I'd expected the 3DS to jump up a bit quicker than that.


I was a bit surprised at the very slow growth of the 3DS since last Christmas. Now that the 3DS XL was announced a few weeks ago, I expect very little growth until the 3DS XL gets released.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/13/12 8:53:00 AM
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
WoW has a playrate of 40.66% in a poll near the end of 2010.


So...how big is WoW's anti-vote base then?
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-LusterSoldier-
07/13/12 10:40:00 AM
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I have no idea.

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-LusterSoldier-
07/13/12 9:19:00 PM
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Strange poll today. The trends will be quite interesting because people from Europe are way more likely to have visited France compared to countries outside of Europe.

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_SecretSquirrel
07/14/12 1:44:00 AM
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I'm confused on whether to vote yes or no, because I've been to a French territory, but not the mainland.

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-LusterSoldier-
07/14/12 1:49:00 AM
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I wouldn't count French territories as the country of France. So that would be "No" in your situation.

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