Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Jake/Duke/Nero/Samus/Fou-lu vs Isa/Selvaria/Terry/Bill/Orochi

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X_Dante_X
09/21/11 5:54:00 PM
#1:


Jake Armitage, Duke Nukem, Nero, Samus, and Fou-lu have challenged Isa, Selvaria, Terry Bogard, Bill Rizer, and Orochi to a fight! Location of the fight:

Great Silver Shrine: Flying high in the upper atmosphere of Arcadia, the Shrine laughs at gravity as normal people know it. The outside has teleporters that lead into the personal quarters of the Silvites, as well as the main area of the Shrine filled with winding pathways that alter gravity. Access to the rest of the world is banned, assuming Mercs could even get to it without dying horribly..

Which side will win?


Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.

- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.

- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.

- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.



Rules for Voting

- Bold your votes (using <b> and </b>).

- Provide a justification for why you think the selected team would win. Fanboy logic, ignoring character assumptions or rules, and vague or unintelligible justifications are all grounds for having your vote disqualified.

- If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish.

- This match will end in 24 hours.


Jake Armitage is as he appears in Shadowrun, with maximum possible stats and all cyberware upgrades. He brings to battle his Ruger Warhawk pistol, Defiance T-250 shotgun, Uzi III SMG, HK227 assault rifle, AS7 Assault Cannon, full body suit, and all his spells.

Duke Nukem is as he appears in the Duke Nukem series. He possesses his X-3000 from Manhattan Project, his Plasma Cannon from Duke 64, his RPG from Duke Nukem 3D, and his Grenade Launcher from Duke 64. He also has his Jetpack, Night Vision Goggles, Scuba Gear, and Holoduke from Duke Nukem 3D.

Nero is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4 in his base form. He has all his weapons and techniques gained through the game, and he may access Devil Trigger for 10 seconds every 5 minutes. The regen on his DT is as it's done in the gameplay though, not cutscenes.

Samus is as she appears in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, in her normal state near the end of the game. She may enter her Corrupted state for 14 seconds every 5 minutes with no ill effect. If she lasts for any longer than that in Hyper Mode she will die in the next 5 seconds. She's aware of this limit.

Fou-Lu is as he appears in his playable form in Breath of Fire IV. He has access to most skills and magic from his playable hybrid forms and can transform into any of his playable non-Tyrant/Infini hybrid forms, though he cannot use breath attacks.

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X_Dante_X
09/21/11 5:55:00 PM
#2:


~vs~

Isa is as seen in Sin and Punishment: Star Successor, in his Stage 7 form. He functions as if Kachi is fused with him, and cannot unfuse with or be separated from her. In addition, he can use both Isa and Kachi shooting modes and charge shots.

Selvaria is as seen in Valkyria Chronicles, with access to her Valkyrur lance and shield as well as her Rhum machine gun. She cannot use her Valkyrur Flame self destruct power.

Terry Bogard is as seen in his younger, more traditional form from the King of Fighters and Fatal Fury series.

Bill Rizer is as he appears in the Contra series, in his playable Neo Contra incarnation. He has access to Laser and Crash from Contra 4.

Orochi is as seen in the King of Fighters series with all his moves except for Enhanced Soul Steal. He also has all the moves Mizuchi uses in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum. There are no invincibility frames or gameplay mechanic-y moves however.

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 6:00:00 PM
#3:


Chris' classic strategy of "camp the central teleporter" is unlikely to work in this battle because
(1) Jake and Duke have been here before. They know the place.
(2) The path to the central teleporter is shorter from the entrance than from the upper chamber, where I would expect Chris' team to start.

Also, Jake's still got that invisibility spell, so any stealth or sneak attack advantage would go to us.

Isa is essentially countered by Fou-Lu, who can fly in dragon form and who has access to the learned technique Spirit Blast, a melee tech that ignores defense.

Further arguments forthcoming when I stop having the attention span of a five-year-old, probably.


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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:03:00 PM
#4:


Pfft, Camping? Whose gonna camp!

More like destroy GSS

For you see my friends Isa can destroy outer space battleships, why not GSS?

So what he will do is fire lasers at the teleporter and make it EXPLODE in fire and death.

Whats the other team going to do? Invisibility? As if that matters!

Being a dragon is awesome until you realize that it isn't so awesome in close quarters which is mostly what GSS provides. I think Isa can just go ahead and blow up this entire place and everyone else along with it. Okay so maybe not enough to bring it crashing down or anything, but Isa is at the top of GSS. If he just destroys everything below him then he's sure to maim the other team.

Isa is just too strong, it is quite sad.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:06:00 PM
#5:


Plus we are in the future now. Now need to rely on camping techniques. Isa and Selvaria are more than capable of hyper beaming through GSS and taking Duke and Jake by surprise. They have been here before, they would expect the other team to camp, not for the other team to blast their way to them by alternative means.

Boy will their face be red.

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 6:12:00 PM
#6:


It's entirely against Isa's personality to destroy GSS and his teammates with it. Isa's story, as I understand it, is a story of friendship and loyalty -- he meets Kachi, he is charmed by her, he sets out on a mission to protect her against the world. From what I've seen, he's both caring and thoughtful. Definitely not the kind to wipe out his friends just to score a win for himself.

Also, Isa and Selvaria have never been here before. Dunno what you're on.


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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:13:00 PM
#7:


When I say destroy GSS I don't mean all of it silly. I mean the part his team isn't on. He is at the top.

He aims lasers low.

People die in flames.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:13:00 PM
#8:


"they have been here before" refers to your team silly =(

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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:15:00 PM
#9:


I mean if you want to argue that my team DOES not do that, and does indeed camp, then it should be noted that the teleporter lights up when something passes through it and that's probably a good sign to Isa to fire.

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 6:17:00 PM
#10:


I don't recall you guys camping last time. I recall Rubi in Rage Mode "seeing red" and charging forward. Though maybe the rest of you camped? Up to interp, I suppose.


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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:25:00 PM
#11:


I recall me arguing against that.

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 6:37:00 PM
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Yeah, but I recall I disagreed.


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X_Dante_X
09/21/11 6:38:00 PM
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I see we're at an impasse here

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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:38:00 PM
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Yeah well the only reason you won is because of admins.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 6:39:00 PM
#15:


hgr is all like "omg drak you have such a massive dick let me suck on it" and then he went om nom nom nom and before that wang was like "no no let me let me"

that match.

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dragon22391
09/21/11 6:40:00 PM
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i think that g in his name stands for GAY am i right heh heh heh

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/11 6:42:00 PM
#17:


From: Achromatic | #015
hgr is all like "omg drak you have such a massive dick let me suck on it" and then he went om nom nom nom and before that wang was like "no no let me let me"

that match.


Drak is the admin bioweapon, why wouldn't the admins be invested in their creation.

Anyway, uhh...I have really high respect for most of Drak's team (read, all of it), but Isa is off-the-charts broken and his backup is all pretty nice except maybe Terry. Will have to think about this fight - it's basically 'all good mercs' vs. 'one amazing merc and backup'.

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 6:42:00 PM
#18:


see, this is one of my favorite parts of mercs, reminiscing about old battles


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GANON1025
09/21/11 7:08:00 PM
#19:


Sir Chris is absolutely, 100% right. Team Isa

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:08:00 PM
#20:


I'm not gonna vote since casual voting is discouraged, but I will say I always bet on Duke.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/11 7:09:00 PM
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From: Psycho_Kenshin | #020
I'm not gonna vote since casual voting is discouraged, but I will say I always bet on Duke.


Casual voting isn't discouraged! You just have to explain your reasoning for it.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:10:00 PM
#22:


Last time I got a bunch of harassing PMs from Sir Chris even though I explained my vote. Just sayin'. =P

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DeathChicken
09/21/11 7:11:00 PM
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I see little reason why Isa couldn't abuse this terrain to hell and back, flying around the ledges and going pew pew to everyone

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/11 7:12:00 PM
#24:


From: Psycho_Kenshin | #022
Last time I got a bunch of harassing PMs from Sir Chris even though I explained my vote. Just sayin'. =P


CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIS!

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 7:14:00 PM
#25:


Fou-Lu abuses the terrain equally well, due to dragonflight and all.

Last time I got a bunch of harassing PMs from Sir Chris even though I explained my vote.

That's not limited to casual voters. He does that to veteran voters too.

Basically I'm saying don't worry about it.


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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:28:00 PM
#26:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #024
CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIS!


His vote was disqualified. He did a bad vote.

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FFDragon
09/21/11 7:33:00 PM
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Psycho_Kenshin posted...
Last time I got a bunch of harassing PMs from Sir Chris even though I explained my vote. Just sayin'. =P

And they say I am the enemy of Mercenaries.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:33:00 PM
#28:


Well looks like Chris is still against me on this, ha, but all righty I'll go for it.

Sci-fi versus magic, always wacky. I think people tend to give magic the edge, but then again these magic characters seem just as mortal, even Orochi can be defeated by a bunch of punches in his games.

Duke outclasses Bill Rizer, maybe trick him with the holoduke and blow him away. Armitage is one bad dude, I think he could take take Selvaria. Orochi really has nothing special in the defense catagory, Samus's armor could protect her from some of his attacks while she proceeds to blast his brains all over the wall.

Fou-Lu and Isa are the characters I know the least of, but after a quick look online I'll say they're fairly evenly matched, they blow eachother away. Terry is not to be underestimated, and I think he could do some major damage against Nero with some power geysers, but a few guns aimed at Terry at the same time and its academic. I bet on team Duke.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:36:00 PM
#29:


I am used to dealing with idiots it is really no big deal.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:36:00 PM
#30:


Ad hominem, Chris try to play nice. Others are trying to encourage people to post in these.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:37:00 PM
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So what did you do to take a quick look online you miserable moron. Because Isa is an insanely obscure character and really they are COMPLETELY different in every way.

Not going to play nice with you anymore. You are a moron, and you need to be put in your god damn place.

Man it feels good to say that.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:38:00 PM
#32:


Screw that. Mercs has been going on for 2 + years and you are a complete and utter jackass not worth a single shred of my good will or patience.

Once I got this PM:

Re: About that vote...

It's all wacky stuff, I take these games with a grain of salt. But yeah, I'd take the vampire over the jedi, and well Cloud has so much stuff at his disposal its zany, etc etc and bullets to the head really are quality.


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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:39:00 PM
#33:


I have issues dealing with idiots like you. You are utter, utter trash.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:40:00 PM
#34:


Okay, but you never played nice in the first place, and appear to have issues socializing. But hey, that's your thing. And any PM I sent you in defense of unexpected insult PMs can't really be held against me. More or less just saying "calm down, it's all in good fun".

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/11 7:41:00 PM
#35:


To put it in a less blunt way...Isa is really, really damn hax. Let's put it this way: he takes a dive into a planet that is almost all lava and is unharmed. He goes on to fight not one, not two, but FIVE huge, spacefaring foes, and trashes them. He's absolutely ridiculous, downright monstrous even. Fou-Lu is good, but even in his boosted mode he's still a couple notches below that much power. Fou-Lu can probably keep him busy for a while, but won't come even close to winning or even doing all that much damage. Isa requires a double or triple team to beat - the question is if Drak's team can deal with the rest of the team fast enough to win, because not a single one of them can beat Isa alone, even if buffed to the gills.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:41:00 PM
#36:


You have problems, and honestly I wish you well man.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:41:00 PM
#37:


Die in a fire.

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Drakeryn
09/21/11 7:41:00 PM
#38:


(1:17:50 AM) TheCrownedKnight: I don't have anger problems.


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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:42:00 PM
#39:


Hm? Whose angry. A bit frustrated at his lack of intelligence, but not angry. Why can't people be mean without also being angry? I think one of society's biggest problems is its lack of emotional understanding.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/21/11 7:44:00 PM
#40:


Yes, I'm clearly unintelligent because you disagree with my tactics in this character battle game. Grow up.

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Achromatic
09/21/11 7:45:00 PM
#41:


Yes, yes you are. In fact thank you for using the word clearly because it is in fact entirely correct. You have no basis to stand on here and you are a very unintelligent person. The saddest thing about unintelligent people is they do not have the understanding that they are in fact unintelligent. You sadden me deeply.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/11 7:46:00 PM
#42:


From: Drakeryn | #038
(1:17:50 AM) TheCrownedKnight: I don't have anger problems.


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X_Dante_X
09/21/11 7:48:00 PM
#43:


Team Isa

This fight pretty much comes down to superiority in the skies, and whoever wins this gains a giant advantage in being able to gorilla warfare the others, ducking in and out at their own discretion and taking the others by surprise. And really, Isa versus Fou-lu isn't a close one - its not super quick or clean, but Isa isn't in danger of losing. While this fight is going on, Jake/Duke/Nero/Samus are probably beating Selvaria/Terry/Bill/Orochi - not by as big a margin as Isa beat Fou-lu, but by time Isa comes back down its probably something like Samus/Nero vs Selvaria/Bill. Problem is, Isa cleans up the remainder.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/21/11 8:02:00 PM
#44:


From: X_Dante_X | #043
Team Isa

This fight pretty much comes down to superiority in the skies, and whoever wins this gains a giant advantage in being able to gorilla warfare the others, ducking in and out at their own discretion and taking the others by surprise. And really, Isa versus Fou-lu isn't a close one - its not super quick or clean, but Isa isn't in danger of losing. While this fight is going on, Jake/Duke/Nero/Samus are probably beating Selvaria/Terry/Bill/Orochi - not by as big a margin as Isa beat Fou-lu, but by time Isa comes back down its probably something like Samus/Nero vs Selvaria/Bill. Problem is, Isa cleans up the remainder.


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X_Dante_X
09/21/11 8:03:00 PM
#45:


hey, I'm just proud I spelled a word correctly

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09/21/11 8:12:00 PM
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dragon22391
09/21/11 9:07:00 PM
#47:


you are ignoring 7 message(s) from users on this page. Manage your list here.

keep on fighting the good fight, Chris

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HeroicGammaRay
09/21/11 10:25:00 PM
#48:


ignore chris - your vote today is fine. not in line with most everyone else's opinions on the characters, but fine nonetheless.

chris, if you feel like venting, there are better avenues for it than my topic. you are making mercs look like even more of a disgrace than it already is. (i won't say it's not funny, though)
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Achromatic
09/21/11 10:26:00 PM
#49:


You don't own mercs and I'll do as I please.

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Dantezoid
09/22/11 8:30:00 AM
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hey guys keep it professional in my topic please

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