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Anagram 08/19/11 4:44:00 PM #1: |
Minor FF7 spoilers
Of every non-humanoid main character in an RPG I can think of, he's easily the best looking, even if his impact on the plot is absolutely nil (I think the closest he comes to affecting the main plot is when Hojo tries to breed him with Aeris for absolutely no reason). Or am I wrong? Is there a non-humanoid in an RPG that looks better than him? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FateStayAlbion 08/19/11 4:46:00 PM #3: |
He's a dog. With a pipe. -- http://i54.tinypic.com/2qbudr7.gif http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 08/19/11 4:47:00 PM #4: |
I always found red13 to be completely ridiculous.
also, the character is kind of silly. -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 08/19/11 4:48:00 PM #5: |
Red XIII is nice for that substory in Cosmo Canyon. All you need.
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Anagram 08/19/11 4:55:00 PM #6: |
ZFS posted...
Red XIII is nice for that substory in Cosmo Canyon. All you need. I know, but I tend to like it more when everyone important is, well, important. Vincent and Yuffie have the excuse of being optional, but of the mandatory characters, Red is easily the least important. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/19/11 4:57:00 PM #7: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
He basically exists for Square to go "look how well we can design a non-human party member!" That actually could be a real explanation. I'm just not really sure why he's in the game, though, to be honest. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 08/19/11 4:59:00 PM #8: |
Eh, it's nice if everyone is involved, but having a slightly more prominent role than someone else doesn't really make them a better character. FFVII's "important" characters are few, but it has a good cast overall.
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ShadowHalo17 08/19/11 5:02:00 PM #9: |
I refuse to believe Cait Sith is more important to the story than Red.
No matter how much evidence you throw my way, I REFUSE. Red > all. -- ~Halo Rolling around at the speed of sound. http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2417/sonicspeed.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 08/19/11 5:02:00 PM #10: |
Repede was already mentioned but
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Grand Kirby 08/19/11 5:02:00 PM #11: |
I never understood whether or not his tail was supposed to be on fire or not. It looks like it is in the artwork, but that doesn't make any sense.
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ShadowHalo17 08/19/11 5:02:00 PM #12: |
From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #009 Oh hell yeah, can't believe I didn't think of Ammy. -- ~Halo Rolling around at the speed of sound. http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2417/sonicspeed.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tazzyboyishere 08/19/11 5:09:00 PM #13: |
Okami's not an RPG.
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TomNook7 08/19/11 5:11:00 PM #14: |
Ammy isn't an RPG character.
Saber from DQV is a good one for his moment of tragedy as a kitten. And Red XIII's Cosmo Canyon scene is one of the greatest scenes in RPG history; I took him all the way to the final boss for that alone. -- Genesis does what Nintendon't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 08/19/11 5:12:00 PM #15: |
Oh RPG character, right. Forgot about that.
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paperwarior 08/19/11 5:13:00 PM #16: |
He's significant to the plot because he does breed with Aeris. It's canon! ...I wonder if Cloud is jealous.
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HeroDelTiempo17 08/19/11 5:13:00 PM #17: |
Well I don't see why we should be limiting ourselves to non-humanoid characters in RPGs, anyways. <_<
Ammy just came to mind because she's a wolflike design who looks way better than Red XIII. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AitchDeeTee/panicdancegifta.gif http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 08/19/11 5:14:00 PM #18: |
Come to think of it, so many Pokemon would count.
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HeroDelTiempo17 08/19/11 5:17:00 PM #19: |
If Pokemon count then SMT demons count too.
Mara the best -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/19/11 5:21:00 PM #20: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Well I don't see why we should be limiting ourselves to non-humanoid characters in RPGs, anyways. <_< Ammy just came to mind because she's a wolflike design who looks way better than Red XIII. She looks great and all, but I still like Red more. Though not AC Red, I don't know what's up with him there but I really dislike the design. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook7 08/19/11 5:22:00 PM #21: |
everyone and everything was worse in AC
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kevwaffles 08/19/11 5:26:00 PM #22: |
From: Anagram | #001 There was totally a reason. Aeris wasn't going to live long enough to finish all the tests he had planned, so he was going to breed her. You can later imply that this is because of the longevity of Red XIII's species. Okay, so it's a dumb reason and Hojo is an idiot who doesn't understand that cross-species breeding doesn't typically work or that even if it did an human/dog hybrid probably wouldn't be suitable for whatever the hell he is trying to accomplish, but it is a reason. -- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Equius_Zahhak 08/19/11 5:27:00 PM #23: |
Seto looked BAD ASS
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Biolizard28 08/19/11 5:29:00 PM #24: |
Koromaru.
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Anagram 08/19/11 5:39:00 PM #25: |
kevwaffles posted...
From: Anagram | #001 I think the closest he comes to affecting the main plot is when Hojo tries to breed him with Aeris for absolutely no reason There was totally a reason. Aeris wasn't going to live long enough to finish all the tests he had planned, so he was going to breed her. You can later imply that this is because of the longevity of Red XIII's species. Okay, so it's a dumb reason and Hojo is an idiot who doesn't understand that cross-species breeding doesn't typically work or that even if it did an human/dog hybrid probably wouldn't be suitable for whatever the hell he is trying to accomplish, but it is a reason. I did forget about Red's species living a really long time, but it still seems a weird choice to breed Aeris with him. I mean, does Hojo have no oversight? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 08/19/11 5:55:00 PM #26: |
From: ShadowHalo17 | #010 Cait Sith saves everyone's life at the Temple of the Ancients and Reeve (who's controlling him) helps them break back into Midgar. -- http://i55.tinypic.com/20t3qfm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadowHalo17 08/19/11 5:58:00 PM #27: |
From: TimJab | #026 I don't believe you. That was just Red in disguise. -- ~Halo Give into the Night. http://a.imageshack.us/img443/8466/shadowhalo.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/19/11 5:59:00 PM #28: |
ShadowHalo17 posted...
From: TimJab | #026 Cait Sith saves everyone's life at the Temple of the Ancients and Reeve (who's controlling him) helps them break back into Midgar. I don't believe you. That was just Red in disguise. What about when Spoilers Cait Sith betrays the party? That's plot significant. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 08/19/11 6:00:00 PM #29: |
Yeah that too. But it's really Reeve who's significant, not Cait Sith.
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 6:01:00 PM #30: |
From: ShadowHalo17 | #010 If we're counting Cait Sith's true identity as part of his character, then it's not even close. -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 6:02:00 PM #31: |
From: Anagram | #025 Hojo just doesn't give a crap. -- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dragon22391 08/19/11 6:04:00 PM #32: |
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ShadowHalo17 08/19/11 6:05:00 PM #33: |
Reeve is just Red in disguise.
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TimJab 08/19/11 6:13:00 PM #34: |
that shinra soldier is just red in dis- wait -- http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4293/timj.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/19/11 6:14:00 PM #35: |
LeonhartFour posted...
From: Anagram | #025 I did forget about Red's species living a really long time, but it still seems a weird choice to breed Aeris with him. I mean, does Hojo have no oversight? Hojo just doesn't give a crap. I meant, does no one look over Hojo's work? Is he his own boss? Or does President Shinra just think that Hojo is the most reliable person ever? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 08/19/11 6:28:00 PM #36: |
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 6:29:00 PM #37: |
From: Anagram | #035 I think after all that Hojo had accomplished up to that point, Shinra was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 08/19/11 6:50:00 PM #38: |
Why does Cait Sith tell them not to forgot about him even if another one comes along?
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 6:51:00 PM #39: |
From: pjbasis | #038 Because he knew another one was coming along, obviously. He can still move more, too. -- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 08/19/11 6:54:00 PM #40: |
It just gives me this hilarious image of Reeve crying as he controls it from far away, talking to himself.
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 6:55:00 PM #41: |
I'm just not sure why all the Cait Siths have different accents.
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Anagram 08/19/11 6:56:00 PM #42: |
Spoilers
Reeve's connection to Cait Sith still confuses me. Cait Sith clearly acts when Reeve is imprisoned, and he acts the exact same as when Reeve controls him. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 6:57:00 PM #43: |
Reeve obviously controls him using telepathy.
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pjbasis 08/19/11 6:57:00 PM #44: |
Manipulation materia?
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Jeff Zero 08/19/11 6:58:00 PM #45: |
Reeve = Ultimecia.
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TimJab 08/19/11 10:03:00 PM #46: |
From: pjbasis | #040 They don't, they affect the cat on top of it. -- http://i55.tinypic.com/20t3qfm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/19/11 10:04:00 PM #47: |
TimJab posted...
From: pjbasis | #040 Let's not even get into why potions and curative magic affect a doll, or why it can use materia. They don't, they affect the cat on top of it. Wait, if Cait Sith is organic, that just raises further questions. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/19/11 10:05:00 PM #48: |
Why do you have to be organic to use Materia?
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TimJab 08/19/11 10:05:00 PM #49: |
It's a cat riding a doll. The cat is organic, the doll is not.
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Anagram 08/19/11 10:06:00 PM #50: |
TimJab posted...
It's a cat riding a doll. The cat is organic, the doll is not. Reeve controls the doll. Spoilers But partway through the game, Cait Sith lets the temple destroy him while he's still on top of the doll, and then shows up again and is all "No big deal." -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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