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TimJab
08/17/11 11:49:00 PM
#51:


A funny way to look at things:

If the World Martial Arts tournament was limited to pure martial artists, AKA nobody that can fly or use ki attacks, Yajirobe would beat the **** out of everyone with ease.

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Natwaf_akidna
08/17/11 11:54:00 PM
#52:


Yajirobe can't fly? Could've sworn he did.

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Xiahou Shake
08/17/11 11:54:00 PM
#53:


I remember watching Dragonball for the first time awhile after I watched DBZ, and being ****ing dumbfounded when Goku and Yajirobe fought to a standstill.
Had a soft spot for Yajirobe ever since.

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Sorozone
08/17/11 11:58:00 PM
#54:


Yeah, he can't fly.
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TimJab
08/17/11 11:59:00 PM
#55:


No, he can't fly. Or if he can he chooses not to for whatever reason. He was flying off in one of Bulma's capsule helicopter things and got shot down by the Androids.

I can't speak for the manga, but he never flies in the anime.

EDIT: A quick check of the Dragon Ball wiki confirms that he can't fly. He probably could learn, but he uses it as an excuse not to fight.

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XNevermoreX
08/18/11 12:01:00 AM
#56:


Tien > Krillin > Yamcha >> Chiaotzu > Yajirobe >>>>> Videl > Hercule

At the end of DBZ, probably.

And yeah, Yajirobe was on par with Goku during his introduction. If he was more serious about training, he might've been one of the strongest humans! Funny that he accomplished more than Yamcha ever did, though.

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08/18/11 12:20:00 AM
#57:


Is Hercule really below Yajirobe? Yajirobe barely did anything other than cut Vegeta's tail with a sword, Hercule punched through a bus and avoided being blasted more than a few feet when he was on the edge of a blast from Cell (he was the only normal human not to be blasted off by Cell's attacks in the tournament).

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Natwaf_akidna
08/18/11 12:24:00 AM
#58:


Didn't Hercule try to destroy a whole bunch of ceramic plates but failed to destroy some of them?

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redrocket
08/18/11 5:39:00 PM
#59:


Hercule's durability is purely comic relief. His strength/combat feats are well below Yajirobe.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
08/18/11 6:00:00 PM
#60:


Yajirobe also killed Cymbal while Cymbal could barley hurt him. Tambourine killed nearly all the martial artists in the world and Cymbal wasn't much weaker. Also stalemating Goku makes him stronger than Krillin and Tao who would stomp Hercule.

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MajinZidane
08/18/11 6:04:00 PM
#61:


From: StealThisSheen | #017
Or, with filler
Yamcha >= Tien > Krillin


interested in where you get this

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Sorozone
08/18/11 6:07:00 PM
#62:


Probabaly the fact Yamcha was beating up Olibu, the same guy that gave Pikkon a good fight, in those filler episodes when the group was training in the other world.
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SHINE GET 64
08/18/11 6:09:00 PM
#63:


MajinZidane posted...
From: StealThisSheen | #017
Or, with filler
Yamcha >= Tien > Krillin
interested in where you get this



Yamcha beat Olibu in the afterlife

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
08/18/11 6:12:00 PM
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GranzonEx
08/18/11 6:15:00 PM
#65:


Those are some ridiculous numbers for power levels.
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MarvelousGerbil
08/18/11 6:23:00 PM
#66:


What is Popo? I think Popo is stronger than any of them.

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Natwaf_akidna
08/18/11 6:23:00 PM
#67:


Isn't Popo weaker than Kami?

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SHINE GET 64
08/18/11 6:25:00 PM
#68:


Mr. Popo's immortal, but his duties are only to take care of the lookout and not protect earth so he'd wouldn't help anyway.


and him testing SSJ Trunks or whatever in the Buu saga was filler

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JaKyL25
08/18/11 6:28:00 PM
#69:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
No way was he below Yajirobe.

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...so basically, until Raditz showed up, Mr. Popo was the strongest being Earth had ever seen?

I find it amusing that Popo could have obliterated King Piccolo if he chose to.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
08/18/11 6:29:00 PM
#70:


Popo knew that if he killed Piccolo he would also kill Kami.

Granted that still makes him a dick since Piccolo killed so many people and Popo refused just for one person.

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JaKyL25
08/18/11 6:30:00 PM
#71:


Pecking order!

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TsunamiXXVIII
08/18/11 7:14:00 PM
#72:


BoshStrikesBack posted...
2) I've personally disowned the Buu saga (DBZ Kai baby!), so I'm curious: would Tien > Krillin still hold?

Not sure. I think so. Krillin was already being mostly ineffective by the Androids Saga, while Tien and his Tri Beams managed to neutralize Cell's second stage for a decent amount of time until Goku intervened. Granted, Tien would've ended up killing himself before Cell would even get the chance if he'd had to stall much longer, but I don't remember Krillin even being able to do that much so I'm giving the edge to Tien. But that's just speculation.

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Sorozone
08/18/11 8:28:00 PM
#73:


Well it's commonly accepted that Krillin is stronger than Tien during the Cell saga, it's one of the main reasons some people think that Krillin perhaps is stronger than Tien end series because people were under the wrong impression about Tien after Cell was killed and the filler line "I have no reason to train" or w.e(aside from the whole Yamcha statement).

So people assumed that they both slacked during those years, thus the statement Krillin > Tien held water, because Krillin was strong than Tien in the Cell saga.
It really just goes back to Krillin getting the Guru boost, and Tien not. From there on till Cell appeared, they did about the same amount of training, but Krillin would stay on top because of the Guru boost.

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TimJab
08/18/11 9:23:00 PM
#74:


From: JaKyL25 | #069
...so basically, until Raditz showed up, Mr. Popo was the strongest being Earth had ever seen?

I find it amusing that Popo could have obliterated King Piccolo if he chose to.


The only thing I know about Popo's power level is that he was stronger than Goku the first time they met (which is when he was killed by Piccolo I guess).

I'm pretty sure the unnamed Namekian that split into Kami and Piccolo was stronger than him though.

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Natwaf_akidna
08/18/11 9:26:00 PM
#75:


Oh definitely. The strongest Namekian of all, wasn't he? I think I remember that Namek old guy saying even a Super Saiyan would have problems against him.

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MarvelousGerbil
08/18/11 9:28:00 PM
#76:


My DBZ knowledge is a little flaky at this point, but wasn't Buu (and possibly Dabura) on Earth at one point in the past? So technically that would be the strongest pre-Raditz encounter.

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TimJab
08/18/11 9:32:00 PM
#77:


From: Natwaf_akidna | #075
Oh definitely. The strongest Namekian of all, wasn't he? I think I remember that Namek old guy saying even a Super Saiyan would have problems against him.


I don't really remember. The strongest Namekian warrior (besides Piccolo) was Nail, who was only 41,000, and from what I understand he was a ****load stronger than any of the other Namekians (since Dodoria and Zarbon killed all of them with ease and Nail would have one-shotted both of them). SSJ Goku was 150,000...I'm not sure I can buy the unnamed Namekian being that strong. Maybe 50,000.

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TimJab
08/18/11 9:34:00 PM
#78:


From: MarvelousGerbil | #076
My DBZ knowledge is a little flaky at this point, but wasn't Buu (and possibly Dabura) on Earth at one point in the past? So technically that would be the strongest pre-Raditz encounter.


Technically I guess. I'm not really sure how Buu's egg ended up on Earth of all places. Dabura lived in the Demon Realm up until Babidi recruited him. But yeah, technically Buu is the strongest being on Earth (and in the universe) throughout all of Dragonball and Z, but he's hibernating.

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MarvelousGerbil
08/18/11 9:36:00 PM
#79:


Alternate reality Namekian who fused with all the other Namekians and killed Freeza is the strongest Namekian ever!

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Natwaf_akidna
08/18/11 9:37:00 PM
#80:


Oh, yeah, there's that Alternate Reality thingy going on.

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TimJab
08/18/11 9:38:00 PM
#81:


According to the Dragon Ball wiki, the Nameless Namekian could have easily killed Freiza apparently. Grand Elder was alive when he was, so he would know I guess.

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MarvelousGerbil
08/18/11 9:38:00 PM
#82:


http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/

It gets pretty stupid at some points, especially during the God awful specials, but you can skip past fights you aren't interested in.

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