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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 9:13:00 PM
#1:


And welcome back!

NCAA Games II week by week schedules (including past results):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdEtadTB0dEhmX3JxZkZfdzdhTHF6WGc&hl=en#gid=0

NCAA Games II Conference Breakdowns (including a quicker, faster look at individual games' opponents, wins, and losses):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdDhfenhraVlvNlk3VkUzb0tFalMtYUE&hl=en#gid=0

Rules:

--You must fill out a complete top 25 in order for your vote to be counted.

--You must fill out your own top 25. If you simply copy/paste someone else's list, I won't count it.

--Remember, this is meant to be an objective list of what you think the top 25 most popular games in the contest are, not your own personal favorite 25 games. Keep that in mind when voting. That also means no purposefully downvoting games you don't like or overrating games you like so they'll get a better/worse ranking.

--You may change your vote at any time, but please do not edit/delete your post. Simply make a new post detailing what you want to change.

--Voting will last for 24 hours.

This week's top 25 in action:

1. Chrono Trigger (13-0) – W, 31-13 vs. Sonic Adventure
2. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (12-1) – L, 22-32 vs. #8 Super Mario World
3. Resident Evil 4 (13-0) – W, 33-12 vs. Chrono Cross
4. Super Mario 64 (12-1) – W, 29-27 vs. #10 Final Fantasy X
5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (11-2) – W, 36-18 vs. Silent Hill 2
6. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (12-1) – W, 28-15 vs. #11 Super Metroid
7. Super Smash Bros. Melee (11-2) – W, 38-16 vs. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
8. Super Mario World (11-2) – W, 32-22 vs. #2 Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
9. Metal Gear Solid (12-1) – W, 27-26 vs. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
10. Final Fantasy X (11-2) – L, 27-29 vs. #4 Super Mario 64
11. Super Metroid (11-2) – L, 15-28 vs. #6 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
12. Super Mario Galaxy (11-2) – W, 27-25 vs. #23 Paper Mario
13. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (11-2) – W, 31-12 vs. Max Payne
14. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (11-2) – W, 32-13 vs. Diablo II
15. Final Fantasy IX (12-1) – W, 30-19 vs. GoldenEye 007
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (11-2) – W, 26-23 vs. Street Fighter II
17. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (12-1) – W, 31-16 vs. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
18. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (12-1) – W, 30-17 vs. Street Fighter Alpha 3
19. Final Fantasy VI (10-3) – W, 22-21 vs. #24 Batman: Arkham Asylum
20. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (10-3) – L, 22-27 vs. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
21. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (11-2) – W, 36-13 vs. No More Heroes
22. Mega Man 2 (11-2) – L, 22-26 vs. Final Fantasy VIII
23. Paper Mario (11-2) – L, 25-27 vs. #12 Super Mario Galaxy
24. Batman: Arkham Asylum (11-2) – L, 21-22 vs. #19 Final Fantasy VI
25. Portal (10-3) – L, 24-25 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty


Also receiving votes:

Final Fantasy VII (11-2) – W, 37-12 vs. Shadow of the Colossus
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (11-2) – W, 37-13 vs. Twisted Metal 2
Star Fox 64 (10-3) – W, 31-11 vs. Grand Theft Auto IV
Mario Kart 64 (11-2) – W, 37-17 vs. Mario Kart DS
Metroid Prime (11-2) – W, 27-16 vs. The Secret of Monkey Island
Half-Life 2 (11-2) – W, 24-16 vs. Earthbound
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (8-5) – W, 27-22 vs. #20 Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (11-2) – W, 30-23 vs. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Okami (10-3) – W, 30-14 vs. Contra
Mega Man X (9-4) – W, 29-21 vs. F-Zero GX
Sonic Adventure 2 (12-1) – W, 25-24 vs. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
SoulCalibur II (10-3) – L, 20-31 vs. Tales of Symphonia

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th3l3fty
08/14/11 9:24:00 PM
#2:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee
3. Super Mario 64
4. Resident Evil 4
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Mario World
7. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
8. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
9. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
10. Final Fantasy X
11. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
12. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
13. Super Mario Galaxy
14. Final Fantasy VI
15. Super Metroid
16. Paper Mario
17. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
18. Okami
19. Batman: Arkham Asylum
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
21. Super Mario Galaxy 2
22. Final Fantasy VII
23. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
24. Metroid Prime
25. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

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paulg235
08/14/11 9:25:00 PM
#3:


1. Chrono Trigger (13-0) – W, 31-13 vs. Sonic Adventure
2. Resident Evil 4 (13-0) – W, 33-12 vs. Chrono Cross
3. Super Mario 64 (12-1) – W, 29-27 vs. #10 Final Fantasy X
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (12-1) – W, 28-15 vs. #11 Super Metroid
5. Super Mario World (11-2) – W, 32-22 vs. #2 Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
6. Super Mario Galaxy (11-2) – W, 27-25 vs. #23 Paper Mario Pokemon
7. Red/Blue/Yellow (12-1) – L, 22-32 vs. #8 Super Mario World
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee (11-2) – W, 38-16 vs. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
9. Super Mario Bros. 3 (11-2) – W, 36-18 vs. Silent Hill 2
10. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (11-2) – W, 31-12 vs. Max Payne
11. Final Fantasy IX (12-1) – W, 30-19 vs. GoldenEye 007
12. Final Fantasy VI (10-3) – W, 22-21 vs. #24 Batman: Arkham Asylum
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (11-2) – W, 32-13 vs. Diablo II Metal Gear Solid
14. (12-1) – W, 27-26 vs. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
15. Final Fantasy X (11-2) – L, 27-29 vs. #4 Super Mario 64
16. Half-Life 2 (11-2) – W, 24-16 vs. Earthbound
17. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (12-1) – W, 31-16 vs. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
18. Final Fantasy VII (11-2) – W, 37-12 vs. Shadow of the Colossus
19. Super Metroid (11-2) – L, 15-28 vs. #6 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (11-2) – W, 26-23 vs. Street Fighter II
21. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (12-1) – W, 30-17 vs. Street Fighter Alpha 3
22. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (11-2) – W, 36-13 vs. No More Heroes
23. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
24. Sonic Adventure 2 (12-1) – W, 25-24 vs. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
25. Paper Mario (11-2) – L, 25-27 vs. #12 Super Mario Galaxy

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VeryInsane
08/14/11 9:26:00 PM
#4:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Mario World
7. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee
9. Metal Gear Solid
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Super Mario Galaxy 2
13. Final Fantasy X
14. Final Fantasy IX
15. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
17. Super Metroid
18. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations
19. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
20. Mario Kart 64
21. Final Fantasy VII
22. Final Fantasy VI
23. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
24. Tales of Symphonia
25. Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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red sox 777
08/14/11 9:36:00 PM
#5:


Mario World lost to Mario 64 and what other game?

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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 9:36:00 PM
#6:


Super Mario Galaxy.

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red sox 777
08/14/11 9:38:00 PM
#7:


Ah yes, I'll put it above Mario 3 then.

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PartOfYourWorld
08/14/11 9:40:00 PM
#8:


MELEE 70% ON TWILIGHT PRINCESS?! LMAO @ THE IDEA OF BRAWL DOING THAT

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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 9:41:00 PM
#9:


Brawl nearly doubled it.

So yeah, not quite as good, but yeah.

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PartOfYourWorld
08/14/11 9:41:00 PM
#10:


By the way

Can anyone in here envision themselves voting

Melee > TP
TP > Brawl
Brawl > Melee

Let's see those hands

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th3l3fty
08/14/11 9:41:00 PM
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PartOfYourWorld
08/14/11 9:41:00 PM
#12:


From: LeonhartFour | #009
Brawl nearly doubled it.

So yeah, not quite as good, but yeah.


oh wow, that is disgusting

happy sunday b8

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th3l3fty
08/14/11 9:42:00 PM
#13:


From: paulg235 | #003
14. (12-1) – W, 27-26 vs. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal


>_______>

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red sox 777
08/14/11 9:43:00 PM
#14:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Super Smash Bros. Melee
4. Super Mario 64
5. Resident Evil 4
6. Super Mario World
7. Super Mario Bros. 3
8. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
9. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. Metal Gear Solid
12. Final Fantasy X
13. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. Final Fantasy IX
15. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
17. Super Metroid
18. Final Fantasy VI
19. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
20. Paper Mario
21. Final Fantasy VII
22. Mario Kart 64
23. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
24. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
25. Star Fox 64

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red sox 777
08/14/11 9:44:00 PM
#15:


*Waits to see Tsunami not vote CT #1 again*

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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 9:44:00 PM
#16:


From: th3l3fty | #013
>_______>


It's pretty easy to figure out what the game is by the accompanying result, but yeah, I noticed that, too!

And Brawl beat Wind Waker worse than RE4 did, for what it's worth!

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th3l3fty
08/14/11 9:46:00 PM
#17:


it's even easier considering he has the game on the previous line

of course, his most egregious error is ranking Sonic Adventure 2 anyway so

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TheKnightOfNee
08/14/11 9:46:00 PM
#18:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Super Mario 64
3. Resident Evil 4
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
5. Super Mario Bros 3
6. Super Smash Bros Melee
7. Metal Gear Solid 3
8. Super Mario World
9. The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
10. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
13. Final Fantasy X
14. Final Fantasy IX
15. Metal Gear Solid
16. Final Fantasy VII
17. Super Metroid
18. Super Smash Bros Brawl
19. Super Mario Galaxy 2
20. Metroid Prime
21. Super Mario Galaxy
22. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
23. Final Fantasy VI
24. Batman Arkham Asylum
25. Mega Man 2

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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 9:47:00 PM
#19:


From: th3l3fty | #017
it's even easier considering he has the game on the previous line

of course, his most egregious error is ranking Sonic Adventure 2 anyway so


I didn't even notice! It gets lost in all the text.

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red sox 777
08/14/11 9:49:00 PM
#20:


MELEE 70% ON TWILIGHT PRINCESS?! LMAO @ THE IDEA OF BRAWL DOING THAT

Melee has a shot of getting ranked in the top 5 here, while Brawl is banished out of the top 25 (hopefully for good), so rejoice!

Also, from the RPI, the distance between #1 and #2 is larger than between #2 and #10. CT is turning into our own version of FFVII/OOT here.

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swirIdude
08/14/11 9:53:00 PM
#21:


RPI vote

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Super Mario 64
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
5. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Super Mario Galaxy 2
8. Metal Gear Solid
9. Final Fantasy IX
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. Super Mario World
12. Super Smash Bros. Melee
13. Super Metroid
14. Final Fantasy X
15. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
16. Final Fantasy VI
17. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
18. Batman: Arkham Asylum
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
20. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
21. Mario Kart 64
22. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
23. Tales of Symphonia
24. Portal
25. Mega Man 2

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WarThaNemesis2
08/14/11 9:54:00 PM
#22:


1. Chrono Trigger (1)
2. Resident Evil 4 (3)
3. Super Mario 64 (4)
4. Super Mario World (6)
5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (5)
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee (7)
7. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (8)
8. Final Fantasy X (12)
9. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (2)
10. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (10)
11. Metal Gear Solid (9)
12. Final Fantasy VI (11)
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (15)
14. Super Mario Galaxy (13)
15. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (16)
16. Final Fantasy VII (17)
17. Super Metroid (14)
18. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (18)
19. Final Fantasy IX (20)
20. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (19)
21. Metal Gear Solid 3 (23)
22. Donkey Kong Country 2 (21)
23. Mario Kart 64 (NR)
24. Batman: Arkham Asylum (NR)
25. Metroid Prime (NR)

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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 9:55:00 PM
#23:


From: red sox 777 | #020
Also, from the RPI, the distance between #1 and #2 is larger than between #2 and #10. CT is turning into our own version of FFVII/OOT here.


And people want to argue that it hasn't proven enough to be #1...!

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swirIdude
08/14/11 10:00:00 PM
#24:


Chrono Trigger better enjoy the big lead while it lasts. The terrible opponents it will face in conference play will drag down that RPI number.

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PrinceKaro
08/14/11 10:21:00 PM
#25:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Super Mario 64
4. Super Mario Bros. 3
5. Super Mario World
6. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
7. Resident Evil 4
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee
9. Super Mario Galaxy 2
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Final Fantasy IX
13. Super Metroid
14. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
15. Final Fantasy VII
16. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
17. Metal Gear Solid
18. Final Fantasy X
19. Paper Mario
20. Final Fantasy VI
21. Mega Man 2
22. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
23. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
24. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
25. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest

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vcharon
08/14/11 10:24:00 PM
#26:


1. Chrono Trigger (13-0)
2. Resident Evil 4 (13-0)
3. Super Mario 64 (12-1)
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (12-1)
5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (11-2)
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee (11-2)
7. Super Mario World (11-2)
8. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (12-1)
9. Metal Gear Solid (12-1)
10. Super Mario Galaxy (11-2)
11. Final Fantasy X (11-2)
12. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (11-2)
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (11-2)
14. Final Fantasy IX (12-1)
15. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (12-1)
16. Final Fantasy VI (10-3)
17. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (11-2)
18. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (12-1)
19. Super Metroid (11-2)
20. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (11-2)
21. Final Fantasy VII (11-2)
22. Mario Kart 64 (11-2)
23. Half-Life 2 (11-2)
24. Sonic Adventure 2 (12-1)
25. Batman: Arkham Asylum (11-2)

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LeonhartFour
08/14/11 11:34:00 PM
#27:


Goodnight bump.

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XxDarkCrueltyxX
08/14/11 11:42:00 PM
#28:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
4. Pokemon rby
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Mario World
7. Super MARIO 64
8. MGS
9. SSBM
10. FINALFANTASY X
11. final fantasy IX
12. Super Mario Galaxy 2
13. Super Mario Galaxy
14. OoT
15. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
17. Final fantasy vII
18. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations
19. Final Fantasy VI
20. Mario Kart 64
21. Super metroid
22. Skies of Arcadia
23. Super Mario World 2
24. Tales of Symphonia
25. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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LeonhartFour
08/15/11 12:14:00 AM
#29:


Who are you and why are you voting in this thing when you've never actually voted in the contest?

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Orochimaru_Fan
08/15/11 12:20:00 AM
#30:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Super Mario World
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee
7. Super Mario 64
8. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
9. Super Metroid
10. Final Fantasy X
11. Super Mario Galaxy 2
12. Super Mario Galaxy
13. Final Fantasy IX
14. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
15. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
16. Final Fantasy VI
17. Batman: Arkham Asylum
18. Tales of Symphonia
19. Mario Kart 64
20. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
21. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
22. Metroid Prime
23. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
24. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
25. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

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Daranix
08/15/11 12:26:00 AM
#31:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Super Mario 64
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
7. Super Mario World
8. Metal Gear Solid (12-1)
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee
10. Final Fantasy X
11. Super Mario Galaxy
12. Final Fantasy IX
13. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
15. Super Metroid
16. Super Mario Galaxy 2
17. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
18. Final Fantasy VI
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
20. Half-Life 2
21. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
22. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
23. Final Fantasy VII
24. Batman: Arkham Asylum
25 .Paper Mario

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Janus5000
08/15/11 2:32:00 AM
#32:


Good grief this week was weird.

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Link to the Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Pokemon R/B/Y
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee
7. Super Mario World
8. Super Mario Bros. 3
9. Super Mario Galaxy
10. Ocarina of Time
11. Super Mario Galaxy 2
12. Final Fantasy X
13. Metal Gear Solid
14. Final Fantasy IX
15. Final Fantasy VI
16. Metal Gear Solid 3
17. Super Metroid
18. Majora's Mask
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
20. Paper Mario
21. Phoenix Wright: Trials & Tribulations
22. Batman: Arkham Asylum
23. Metroid Prime
24. Super Mario World 2
25. Mario Kart 64

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SuorGenoveffa
08/15/11 4:28:00 AM
#33:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Super Mario 64
4. Super Smash Bros. Melee
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Mario World
7. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
8. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow
9. Final Fantasy X
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Super Metroid
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2
14. Final Fantasy IX
15. Final Fantasy VI
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
17. Metal Gear Solid
18. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
19. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
20. Mario Kart 64
21. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
22. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
23. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
24. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
25. Paper Mario
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BrettEagles
08/15/11 5:12:00 AM
#34:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Link to the Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Matio World
7. Super Smash Bros. Melee
8. Pokemon RBY
9. Metal Gear Solid
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. Ocarina of Time
12. Super Mario Galaxy 2
13. Final Fantasy IX
14. Final Fantasy X
15. Metal Gear Solid 3
16. Super Metroid
17. Phoenix Wright T&T
18. Phoenix Wright
19. Final Fantasy VI
20. Majora's Mask
21. Final Fantasy VII
22. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
23. Batman
24. Paper Mario
25. Sonic Adventure 2

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TsunamiXXVIII
08/15/11 7:24:00 AM
#35:


Interesting...

1. Super Mario 64 (12-1)
2. Chrono Trigger (13-0)
3. Resident Evil 4 (13-0)
4. Super Mario Bros. 3 (11-2)
5. Super Smash Bros. Melee (11-2)
6. Super Mario Galaxy (11-2)
7. Final Fantasy IX (12-1)
8. Super Mario World (11-2)
9. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow (12-1)
10. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (12-1)
11. Final Fantasy X (11-2)
12. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (11-2)
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (11-2)
14. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (11-2)
15. Mario Kart 64 (11-2)
16. Final Fantasy VI (10-3)
17. Star Fox 64 (10-3)
18. Half-Life 2 (11-2)
19. Final Fantasy VIII (8-5)
20. Metal Gear Solid (12-1)
21. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (11-2)
22. Tales of Symphonia (11-2)
23. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (11-2)
24. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (8-5)
25. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (12-1)

Next five: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (11-2), Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (10-3), Batman: Arkham Asylum (11-2), Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (12-1), Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (11-2)

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TsunamiXXVIII
08/15/11 7:29:00 AM
#36:


Oh, wait, that's right...I forgot about my other realization. Okay, move RBY down to #10 and ALttP up to #9, and move SF64 up to #15, MK64 down to #16, and FFVI down to #17. Also, I forgot all about Persona 4 and it should probably be in PoR's place as my #30, not that that really matters as far as the voting goes.

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swirIdude
08/15/11 7:44:00 AM
#37:


Well, at least CT is in your Top 5. Progress?

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KCF0107
08/15/11 8:00:00 AM
#38:


I'll get to this later

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LeonhartFour
08/15/11 9:20:00 AM
#39:


Remember, folks, a two vote win over FFX is worth more than a 9 vote win over LTTP because CT/LTTP only got 49 votes.

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TsunamiXXVIII
08/15/11 10:06:00 AM
#40:


swirIdude posted...
Well, at least CT is in your Top 5. Progress?

CT's been in my top 5 for weeks now. I don't have the "previous rankings" available because my laptop's away being fixed, but it was #2 last week as well, could've easily been #1 this week with my previous #1 losing but my #3 just scored a win over my #6 so it jumped over it.

And yeah, I'm not sure what to make of that 8-karma account with the bizarre capitalization. The ballot itself seems fairly sound--the only one that no one else has on their ballot is Skies of Arcadia, and I probably have that game somewhere in the 31-40 range because it definitely has done plenty to impress.

Edit: Wait...low karma, bad capitalization, but actually seems to vaguely have a decent idea what's going on...clearly that account belongs to someone who only just turned 13!

And Leon...that argument only works if the 9-vote win over ALttP happened just this week as well. I'm not denying that the win over ALttP is impressive, but SM64 has more...wait...

GODDAMNIT!

Despite your argument clearly being an attempt to troll me, it did help me to realize that I forgot to take into account the fact that Symphony of the Night is now on my ballot and I can't disparage it any more. Of course, I think FFVIII and Tales of Symphonia returning to my ballot as well counterbalances that as far as SM64 is concerned, but now I'm left to reconsider the rest of SotN's opponents' places. Okay...move MK64 back up to 15th and bump SF64 down to 16th, and move Ocarina of Time up to 19th, bump FFVIII down to 20th and MGS to 21st. Hmm...and actually, as a further consequence not only of SotN itself but also of Ocarina moving up, move SMB3 up to 3rd and bump RE4 down to 4th.

New ballot, crudely copy-pasted over from Excel:
1 SM64
2 CT
3 SMB3
4 RE4
5 Melee
6 Galaxy
7 FFIX
8 SMW
9 ALttP
10 RBY
11 FFX
12 SMW2
13 Galaxy 2
14 Majora
15 MK64
16 SF64
17 FFVI
18 Half-Life 2
19 Ocarina
20 FFVIII
21 MGS
22 Symphonia
23 Brawl
24 SotN
25 MGS3

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LeonhartFour
08/15/11 10:10:00 AM
#41:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #040
And Leon...that argument only works if the 9-vote win over ALttP happened just this week as well.


No, it doesn't. Don't be dumb. If you're judging the best game in the contest right now, you take everything into account, and there's nothing Mario 64 has done that puts it over CT.

And you're pretty much indicating that a 2 vote win over FFX was impressive enough to now make Mario 64 better than CT since you weren't ranking Mario 64 above CT before.

So go figure.

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08/15/11 10:15:00 AM
#42:


I actually have voted in the contest a time or two. Im just a drifter but this thread caught my interest.

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08/15/11 10:46:00 AM
#43:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Super Mario 64
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Mario World
7. Super Smash Bros. Melee
8. Final Fantasy X
9. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
10. Metal Gear Solid
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Final Fantasy IX
13. Super Metroid
14. Super Mario Galaxy
15. Super Mario Galaxy 2
16. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
17. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
18. Paper Mario
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
21. Final Fantasy VI
22. Batman: Arkham Asylum
23. Final Fantasy VII
24. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
25. Mario Kart 64

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LeonhartFour
08/15/11 10:50:00 AM
#44:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #043
CT was ahead of SM64 before, but by beating another highly-ranked game, SM64 moves ahead--barely.


Once again, failing to take into account quality of the win and you're just taking the W/L at face value.

Keep in mind, CT's SoS is noticeably better than Mario 64's, so you can't argue Mario 64 deserves to be ahead based on the opponents it's faced.

Or how badly it's beaten the ranked opponents it's faced considering CT handily defeated Mario 3 while Mario 64 won by a single vote.

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TsunamiXXVIII
08/15/11 10:52:00 AM
#45:


LeonhartFour posted...
From: TsunamiXXVIII | #040
And Leon...that argument only works if the 9-vote win over ALttP happened just this week as well.
No, it doesn't. Don't be dumb. If you're judging the best game in the contest right now, you take everything into account, and there's nothing Mario 64 has done that puts it over CT.

And you're pretty much indicating that a 2 vote win over FFX was impressive enough to now make Mario 64 better than CT since you weren't ranking Mario 64 above CT before.

So go figure.


Correct. CT was ahead of SM64 before, but by beating another highly-ranked game, SM64 moves ahead--barely. Next week, it could be different. CT's opponent has a worse record (4-9, vs. 7-6 for SM64's opponent), but I've already expressed my opinion that SoMI isn't as good as their record indicates due to high levels of fodder in the schedule, and on top of that it's a common opponent so if SM64 does a lot worse than CT did it could be a turnaround. I suspect that what their past opponents do next week could have quite the effect, too. Should also be interesting to see what stirs up behind them, as well--RE4 is undefeated and has a strong opponent, but doesn't have enough meat in the past to get by; SMB3 has the meat and the strong upcoming opponent, but lost to both of the games ahead of it. And of course, "strong opponent" isn't always a good thing, because it also means a potential loss. So really, I haven't the slightest idea what next week's ballot might look like. It looks like there's a bit of a gap between #2 and #3 this week, but with both of the top 2 facing weaker opponents, next week's #7 could be week 15's #2. (Because, of course, the top 2 are facing each other in Week 15--the loser could very well be only 3rd or 4th.)

But that's beside the point. The point is that you misinterpreted my remarks about the CT-ALttP match. I didn't say that the low votals made it any less impressive for Chrono Trigger; I said that the low votals made it (the match) a disappointment. Seriously, ALttP was ranked #2 at the time. A #1 vs. #2 can't even draw 50 votes? That's a seriously disappointing outcome. Chrono Trigger almost breaking 60% on the #2 game (at the time) is still incredibly impressive.

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TsunamiXXVIII
08/15/11 11:04:00 AM
#46:


LeonhartFour posted...
Once again, failing to take into account quality of the win and you're just taking the W/L at face value.

I would argue just the opposite. Or by "quality of the win" do you mean margin of victory? Because I would consider these to be two different things.

Or how badly it's beaten the ranked opponents it's faced considering CT handily defeated Mario 3 while Mario 64 won by a single vote.

CT vs. Mario 3 isn't an SFF match; SM64 vs. Mario 3 is. I admit that when SFF is involved, I pretty much don't care about MoV; hell, if its SOS weren't so goddamn horrible otherwise, FFVII would actually deserve a lot of credit for scoring a blowout against FFVIII, because in this particular contest SFF has had a tendency toward close matches. It's just hard for me to take FFVII seriously when its second-most impressive win is, uh...well, I guess actually that would be tripling Shadow of the Colossus this week. It's not even like it came close in its losses, either, even though they were to quality opponents.

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LeonhartFour
08/15/11 11:45:00 AM
#47:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #046
CT vs. Mario 3 isn't an SFF match; SM64 vs. Mario 3 is. I admit that when SFF is involved, I pretty much don't care about MoV


This is only a valid argument if it's a blowout, not if it's a 1-vote victory where either side could've won on any given day.

Mario 3, Mario World, and Mario 64 are essentially equals based on the matches that they've had.

Also, the fact that CT faced SA1 isn't a basis for putting it below Mario 64 because it still destroyed it like it should have. You keep throwing around this idea that "CT is facing weak opponents (which is a pretty faulty assumption to begin with at this point in time) so it should be punished for it," which I don't agree with. If CT starts struggling to beat or blowout weak opponents, then you'd have a leg to stand on with that argument.

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VeryInsane
08/15/11 12:09:00 PM
#48:


Anyone want to bet that Tsunami still won't put CT at Number 1 if it beats SM64 a few weeks from now?

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LeonhartFour
08/15/11 12:10:00 PM
#49:


I'm sure he'll find something else "more impressive" to rank above it that week.

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08/15/11 12:13:00 PM
#50:


1. Chrono Trigger (13-0) – W, 31-13 vs. Sonic Adventure
2. Resident Evil 4 (13-0) – W, 33-12 vs. Chrono Cross
3. Super Mario 64 (12-1) – W, 29-27 vs. #10 Final Fantasy X
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (12-1) – W, 28-15 vs. #11 Super Metroid
5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (11-2) – W, 36-18 vs. Silent Hill 2
6. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (12-1) – L, 22-32 vs. #8 Super Mario World
7. Super Mario World (11-2) – W, 32-22 vs. #2 Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee (11-2) – W, 38-16 vs. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
9. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (11-2) – W, 31-12 vs. Max Payne
10. Metal Gear Solid (12-1) – W, 27-26 vs. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
11. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (12-1) – W, 31-16 vs. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
12. Super Metroid (11-2) – L, 15-28 vs. #6 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
13. Super Mario Galaxy (11-2) – W, 27-25 vs. #23 Paper Mario
14. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (11-2) – W, 32-13 vs. Diablo II
15. Final Fantasy X (11-2) – L, 27-29 vs. #4 Super Mario 64
16. Final Fantasy IX (12-1) – W, 30-19 vs. GoldenEye 007
17. Final Fantasy VI (10-3) – W, 22-21 vs. #24 Batman: Arkham Asylum
18. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (11-2) – W, 26-23 vs. Street Fighter II
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (12-1) – W, 30-17 vs. Street Fighter Alpha 3
20. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (11-2) – W, 36-13 vs. No More Heroes
21. Metroid Prime (11-2) – W, 27-16 vs. The Secret of Monkey Island
22. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (10-3) – L, 22-27 vs. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
23. FF7
24. Batman: Arkham Asylum (11-2) – L, 21-22 vs. #19 Final Fantasy VI
25. Portal (10-3) – L, 24-25 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

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