Board 8 > Let's talk about choosing a fighting game for me to play

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pjbasis
08/04/11 5:09:00 PM
#1:


Only ever played Smash, and Brawl was my first foray into some "professional" playing. I did ok for a beginner, and I think I have a future if the online existed. Too boring to play otherwise so I was get into one of these new-fangled games.

Watched some of EVO and here's what I think of these games just by watching. Obviously there's only so much info I can glean from them.

Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
Looked the most fun, I've played SFII back in the day so I'm relatively familiar with this too. Matches took a good amount of time and I liked the style.

Tekken 6
Also played some of Tekken, though I remember it being more....flashy? I swear I did things like grabs and some more complex combos, these guys just kinda...spaced and threw punches. Never liked the air juggling either. But I have to say watching this against the others really made me appreciate 3D fighters.

Blazblue
Don't know what version this way, but it looked cool. Looks a little slow though, and I kinda don't like how it seems like they just got into huge air juggling combos to do most of the damage.

Mortal Kombat
For some reason this reminded me the most of Smash. So I guess I liked it, but I'm also a little turned off by how unpolished it looks comparatively to the rest. The breakers looked cheap.

Marvel vs. Capcom 3
Yeesh. Never liked the 3v3 stuff, and it just looks so hectic. Not to mention I hate the idea of a forced comeback mechanic, and the way it seems like everyone loses their health in one quick combo, unlike the long ones of Blazblue that look at least difficult to pull off. Party game.

Soul Calibur V
I was a beast at II so maybe I should just wait for this to come out.
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OmarsComin
08/04/11 5:12:00 PM
#2:


Third Strike baby
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Pirateking2000
08/04/11 5:12:00 PM
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Blazblue is awesome (granted a little meh at it now that they changed Hazama and haven't mastered his new consoles + dashing sucks using the analog stick on 360 controller)

BB also has a pretty cool story and AWESOME joke endings

plus Hazama Bang and Hakumen are awesome

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pjbasis
08/04/11 5:14:00 PM
#4:


OmarsComin posted...
Third Strike baby

I'd like to play something more relevant.
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Some_Character
08/04/11 5:17:00 PM
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Super Street Fighter IV.

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GranzonEx
08/04/11 6:02:00 PM
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Pick up AE when the balance patch comes out. UMvC3 as well when that comes out.

If you want to get competitive Marvel is easier while AE requires a bit more practice.
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FFaddict1313
08/04/11 6:04:00 PM
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Mortal Kombat
For some reason this reminded me the most of Smash. So I guess I liked it, but I'm also a little turned off by how unpolished it looks comparatively to the rest. The breakers looked cheap.


I've heard a bunch of top players say that the meter management of MK is the best part of it on streams/podcasts/etc. Breakers included in there of course.

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OmarsComin
08/04/11 6:05:00 PM
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I'd like to play something more relevant.

Third Strike Online Edition is out soon. It's also better than pretty much all the other fighting games!
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agesboy
08/04/11 6:07:00 PM
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BlazBlue

Hakuman is a total badass and Nu is one of the most fun characters I've ever played!

also Nu vs. Ragna is one of the creepiest matches I've ever played

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pjbasis
08/04/11 6:18:00 PM
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How much is Third Strike Online gonna cost? Downloadable only I imagine.
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paperwarior
08/04/11 6:20:00 PM
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Guilty Ge-
I'd like to play something more relevant.

Well crap.

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skull_bonek23
08/04/11 6:21:00 PM
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Blazblue is only fun if you like memorizing 30+ combo chains just to be competent with your character. If Marvel is too hectic then go with AE

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_stingers_
08/04/11 6:22:00 PM
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brawl!

i will train you

we will go places...together

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pjbasis
08/04/11 6:27:00 PM
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I'm already good at brawl. And it has no online functionality!
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
08/04/11 7:07:00 PM
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Third Strike is going to be 15 bucks.

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voltch
08/04/11 7:11:00 PM
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AE

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ZFS
08/04/11 7:12:00 PM
#17:


SSF4 the best.

Third Strike is a nice second choice, though. Better than the other non-SSF4 fighters.

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_stingers_
08/04/11 9:15:00 PM
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From: pjbasis | #014
I'm already good at brawl. And it has no online functionality!


you think your good at brawl. however...your probably not. =[

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pjbasis
08/04/11 9:27:00 PM
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yes I am =[

I mean I would probably get knocked out of a real tournament in 2 or 3 rounds, but I'm just past the fodder line I think.
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SHINE GET 64
08/04/11 9:29:00 PM
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if you think you're probably not!

I was easily the best smash player in my whole school back in high school, but once Brawl came out and I started facing some board 8ers here I learned I was only mid-tier at best, usually low tier.

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pjbasis
08/04/11 9:31:00 PM
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Oh my gawd you guys. I swear.

If Brawl had online...
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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/04/11 9:49:00 PM
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plus Hazama Bang and Hakumen are awesome

Put Tager in there and you got it right!

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OmarsComin
08/04/11 9:52:00 PM
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I was the best Melee player in the music department during college

I can't explain it, just natural talent I guess!
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OmarsComin
08/04/11 9:52:00 PM
#24:


some of us are born to be great
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WazzupGenius00
08/04/11 9:53:00 PM
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From: SHINE GET 64 | #020
if you think you're probably not!

I was easily the best smash player in my whole school back in high school, but once Brawl came out and I started facing some board 8ers here I learned I was only mid-tier at best, usually low tier.


yeah this is pretty true

all you need in order to have an advantage over the majority of players who aren't competitive is knowledge of what each of your moves are and what each of your opponents' moves are

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pjbasis
08/04/11 9:54:00 PM
#26:


I went to a real tournament! I wasn't just the best on my street or something!
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SpeedYoshi
08/04/11 9:55:00 PM
#27:


play melee

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SpeedYoshi
08/04/11 9:57:00 PM
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From: pjbasis | #019
yes I am =[

I mean I would probably get knocked out of a real tournament in 2 or 3 rounds, but I'm just past the fodder line I think.


you sound like you'll get annihilated in a national tourney

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TheCodeisBosco
08/04/11 10:01:00 PM
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If you have a Sega Saturn, get Fighters Megamix. If you don't have a Sega Saturn, buy one and then buy Fighters Megamix as well.

After all, no other fighting game lets you play as a mutha-****ing car!



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Blairville
08/04/11 10:04:00 PM
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I've only played SSF4 and MvC3, but BlazBlue looks really good. EVO made me wanna go out and buy it.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
08/04/11 10:08:00 PM
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Blazblue is awesome (granted a little meh at it now that they changed Hazama and haven't mastered his new consoles + dashing sucks using the analog stick on 360 controller)

Pfft. Hazama is way better now that he has more than one combo.

And let's see... can't help on Tekken or SC, since I never really cared for them. MK9 is pretty fun and it has a solid engine, but it's not my cup of tea, so I guess I can talk about the other ones.

BB is finally good in CS2. The good news is, you can probably find CS pretty cheap now and the update patch is free (I think). You'll still need to pay for the 3 DLC characters if you want them, and that runs you about... $20? $15? Not sure how they're priced.

BB is, I think, harder to just pick up and play at a casual level than the Capcom fighters. People exaggerate when they say you need to know 30+ combos to be good, but it still ain't easy.

SSF4AE you can get for $40 and it's pretty good. It's a little slower than the other games in terms of how it plays, but rounds go by a lot faster than BB. You have a lot of character diversity (even if the game is kind of unbalanced right now), but a free balancing patch is on the way.

AE is probably the easiest of the games to pick up and play on a casual level, but you might find that how link-reliant some characters are can be worse than the long combos of BB.

Marvel... I'd say just wait for UMvC3. Game can be fun now, but it'll be obsolete in a few months. Probably either a little harder or easier to play than BB on a casual level.


My verdict: Be a cool dude and pick up KoF13 in October.

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Pirateking2000
08/04/11 10:17:00 PM
#32:


Put Tager in there and you got it right!


GOLDEN Tager...EX

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_stingers_
08/05/11 12:06:00 AM
#33:


From: pjbasis | #026
I went to a real tournament! I wasn't just the best on my street or something!


haha a real real tournament or a gamestop "real" tournament? =p

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pjbasis
08/05/11 1:24:00 AM
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It was at a local gaming place! With the local smash community, they went on smashboards and everything!
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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/05/11 1:31:00 AM
#35:


Honestly, MvC3 is actually the easiest to play and learn

However, SF4 is good to pick up and play and prolly the best place to start. Goes well at teaching all the general stuff about fighters......except the links. This....prolly has the most bullcrap link system ive ever played, but other than that, the game is great all around.

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Dauntless Hunter
08/05/11 1:35:00 AM
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You should definitely play Mortal Kombat. it's way better than all those other games.

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pjbasis
08/05/11 1:38:00 AM
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Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
Honestly, MvC3 is actually the easiest to play and learn

However, SF4 is good to pick up and play and prolly the best place to start. Goes well at teaching all the general stuff about fighters......except the links. This....prolly has the most bullcrap link system ive ever played, but other than that, the game is great all around.


What if I don't need a game to "learn" how to play fighters?
The reason I didn't like MvC3 for being hectic is just because of style, not really in difficulty. I'm just looking for what people consider to be the best and most relevant, and probably long lasting.
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_stingers_
08/05/11 1:41:00 AM
#38:


From: pjbasis | #034
It was at a local gaming place! With the local smash community, they went on smashboards and everything!


pssssssht
where do u live? im curious now

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pjbasis
08/05/11 1:44:00 AM
#39:


It was in orlando.
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_stingers_
08/05/11 1:48:00 AM
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o.o how long ago was it? i know godofgaming lives in florida, you mightve seen another b8er =p

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Shoenin_Kakashi
08/05/11 1:51:00 AM
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Oh

Well then SF4 fits the bill perfectly then. Best is subjective but relevant it definitely is.

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pjbasis
08/05/11 1:51:00 AM
#42:


hmm...a little over a year ago I stopped playing with them...was that his gamer tag?
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_stingers_
08/05/11 1:53:00 AM
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oh, gog only started tourneys recently so i doubt you wouldve seen him. also i think hes miami so...a bit too far from you anyway.

either way...brawl the best. go back to it =D

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pjbasis
08/05/11 1:56:00 AM
#44:


Yeah I'll probably get SF4 at this rate. Blazblue seems cheap so I might pick that up too.

I guess I should get back into Brawl, but as Toon Link it was pretty hard to keep up. Played Melee again recently and I think I'm just suited better to a faster game.
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_stingers_
08/05/11 2:01:00 AM
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if your looking for faster games, sf4 and marvel wouldnt suit you too well, as theyre both rather slow. sf4 is really slow overall with like...short bursts of timing intensive technicality (lots of frame specific links) but its still really slow, brawls honestly faster than it. marvel, heavily character dependent but among the top tiers the only one that you'll really need to practice any technical things with would be mags.

melees much faster than all 3 of those games at any rate, if your looking for fast games you'll want mvc2 or guilty gear but neither of those are very popular. the fastest game with the biggest scene would be melee atm unless mvc2s scene is still alive but I was under all impressions it was pretty much on its last legs

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pjbasis
08/05/11 2:18:00 AM
#46:


Maybe faster isn't the right word though. Maybe there's something else Melee has that I'm attracted to that Brawl doesn't.

I guess the only real choice is to try them all for myself.
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SpeedYoshi
08/05/11 2:24:00 AM
#47:


melee is the only option

although you're probably best looking at competitive vids and choosing the one that looks the most fun

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GranzonEx
08/05/11 5:41:00 AM
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Just a heads up. If you think you can pick up AE and do all that stuff you see at EVO finals from the start >_>

Marvel on the other hand...
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