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transience
07/21/11 4:54:00 AM
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32 games are left. 16 will remain after this round.

Rules

* You have 10 points to distribute amongst 8 games. You can distribute them however you wish.
* Top 4 scores advance
* One vote per person
* No changing your vote
* Round lasts 24 hours

Pokemon is so screwed division

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Kirby SuperStar Ultra
Meteos
Pokemon Black/White
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver
Sonic Rush

Octal Game Division

Ace Attorney Investigations
Contra 4
Elite Beat Agents / Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
The World Ends With You
Trauma Center: Under the Knife 2
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor

Awesome Animation Division

Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Dragon Quest IX
Ghost Trick
Kirby's Canvas Curse
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Mario Kart DS

No Action Game Division

Animal Crossing: Wild World
Chrono Trigger DS
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey

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Paratroopa1
07/21/11 4:59:00 AM
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Wow, the Pokemon is Screwed and Awesome Animation divisions are stacked with games I love and the other two divisions are... weak.
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transience
07/21/11 5:04:00 AM
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Pokemon is so screwed predictions

Pokemon Black/White
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Kirby SuperStar Ultra
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver
Meteos
Sonic Rush

Black/White has consistently done well and I don't expect it to slow down here. It seems to be the favourite Pokemon game by a good bit right now and should hurt D/P/P pretty bad.

Hotel Dusk has a lot of fanfare and could get a lot of +10 votes. Kirby, for whatever reason, is doing really well. Advance Wars could make some noise but there are four stronger games ahead of it. Heartgold probably suffers due to being a remake along with two other Pokemon games and Meteos/Sonic Rush are just out of their league.

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/21/11 7:31:00 AM
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HG/SS is less popular?

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voltch
07/21/11 7:54:00 AM
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screeeeeewed.

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Chrono1219
07/21/11 10:49:00 AM
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How the F*** are these divisions made

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transience
07/21/11 10:50:00 AM
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07/21/11 10:50:00 AM
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random.org

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transience
07/22/11 5:09:00 AM
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Pokemon is so screwed division results

+119 Pokemon Black/White
+116 Hotel Dusk: Room 215
+101 Meteos
+91 Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
+91 Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver
+70 Advance Wars: Dual Strike
+67 Kirby SuperStar Ultra
+5 Sonic Rush


Pretty crazy round. Pokemon came out hot, especially Black/White. I posted an update which caused people to stop supporting it in favour of the other Pokemon games. They took a lead until people started supporting Meteos, assumedly to knock out Pokemon. D/P and HG/SS settled into a dead tie, followed by D/P taking a 10 point lead and HG/SS coming right back with another +10. The end result is a tie.

We'll do a tiebreaker round at around 2pm EST to determine which Pokemon game advances. One hour long, straight tiebreaker, most votes wins.

Star of the Round: Sonic Rush. Seriously.

Turd of the Round: I dunno. Everyone did about as expected except for Meteos surprising and knocking out a Pokemon game. Which one? Who knows yet.

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Paratroopa1
07/22/11 5:56:00 AM
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Pretty good results right there, although there's something that annoyed me about all the people giving points to all three Pokémon games and nothing else in a division with so many cool games in it. I love Pokémon and all but come onnnnn guys.

Though ultimately B/W really does deserve to be on top of the division even though I didn't vote for it.

Also good for Meteos. I gave it like no credit but it's more popular than I thought. Which is good, because it's an awesome game.
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Jeff Zero
07/22/11 6:03:00 AM
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Paratroopa, for me this was the one division where I really haven't played any of the other games. Pokemon just happened to flood said division.

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KamikazePotato
07/22/11 7:51:00 AM
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Yeah I'm with Para. I actually like Pokemon more than any of the other games in that division, but come on guys.

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th3l3fty
07/22/11 8:03:00 AM
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Pokemon rush wouldn't have been quite as bad without an update tbqh

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linkhatesganon
07/22/11 8:53:00 AM
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Yeah, and Advance Wars deserved to advance more than any Pokemon outside of Black / White

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voltch
07/22/11 8:56:00 AM
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pokemon rules all, yesssss!

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charmander6000
07/22/11 8:58:00 AM
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Yeah I'm with Para. I actually like Pokemon more than any of the other games in that division, but come on guys.

The fact that all three were in the same division made me vote for only them. I think we understand LFF well enough.

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transience
07/22/11 9:49:00 AM
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eh, Pokemon is popular. people who like 1 game tend to like every game since it's pretty same-y. not a big deal.

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Grand Kirby
07/22/11 10:16:00 AM
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I like Pokemon, but I definitely found Advance Wars and Kirby to be way more fun.

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transience
07/22/11 12:06:00 PM
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Tiebreaker results -

Pokemon D/P/P - 10
Pokemon HG/SS - 14

Pokemon DPP is now eliminated. I'm kind of surprised that a remake beat a game that absolutely took over this board in 2007, but whatever.

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Chrono1219
07/22/11 12:08:00 PM
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Pokemon DPP is now eliminated. I'm kind of surprised that a remake beat a game that absolutely took over this board in 2007, but whatever.


Pokemon Gold and Silver beat DPP.

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Da_J
07/22/11 12:17:00 PM
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Excellent results, really. I think I would've preferred DPP to move on, but I can live with HG/SS. I'm just amazed that Meteos made the cut! As was said previously, I love that game, but I didn't think it'd have the popularity to make the cut.

Today's results, however, I don't see as having much of a chance to be so good.

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transience
07/22/11 1:08:00 PM
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there's a hell of a competition today. six games for four spots.

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Lopen
07/22/11 1:26:00 PM
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Damn, should've +9'd Meteos and +1'd DPP

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transience
07/23/11 5:19:00 AM
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Octal Game Division Results

+110 - Devil Survivor
+93 - The World Ends With You
+92 - Contra 4
+85 - Elite Beat Agents
+84 - 999
+81 - Ace Attorney Investigations
+34 - Golden Sun
+11 - Trauma Center 2

Wow. Big upset. You can make a case for there being two upsets.

Star of the Round: Contra 4. I kind of expected Devil Survivor to thrive in a setting like this, but Contra 4? It struggled to beat Warioware Touched last round. Now it's beating EBA, 999 and AAI. What. It jumped out to a 30-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 lead and while it ran out of votes at the end, it still had enough to survive.

Turd of the Round: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors. Wow. 999 went from the fifth highest score to fifth place in a division. A lot of that was because its division was Pokemon and a bunch of weak games, but still, losing to Contra 4 and EBA? That's bad. I think a lot of people expected it to survive and left it alone. With a format as volatile is this, games need all the support they can get. I wouldn't be surprised to see Phoenix Wright struggle in the next couple of days if people pass it up to support their lesser games. Let's see...

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Jmast7
07/23/11 5:22:00 AM
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+85 - Elite Beat Agents
+84 - 999


This is a travesty

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/23/11 5:48:00 AM
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BOO Contra 4!

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ZFS
07/23/11 5:56:00 AM
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Contra 4 best game

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/23/11 5:57:00 AM
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Pfft, hardly.

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voltch
07/23/11 6:55:00 AM
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oh wow, did not expect EBA to pip 999.

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KamikazePotato
07/23/11 7:23:00 AM
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Yeah I give 999 a +10 in virtually any other scenario.

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linkhatesganon
07/23/11 8:13:00 AM
#31:


+85 - Elite Beat Agents
+84 - 999

This is a travesty


More like best result ever

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Da_J
07/23/11 8:34:00 AM
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linkhatesganon posted...
+85 - Elite Beat Agents
+84 - 999

This is a travesty

More like best result ever



Oh my goodness yes

Thrilled that both TWEWY and EBA made the cut, although it's too bad 999 had to drop off in order to make it happen. AAI was an unfortunate but expected loss.

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Articuno2001
07/23/11 9:54:00 AM
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I like EBA, but it isn't better than 999.

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TheCodeisBosco
07/23/11 10:02:00 AM
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Round Two has been amazing so far. Go Contra!!

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Grand Kirby
07/23/11 11:10:00 AM
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EBA is the best DS game, so I'm not sure what the shock is about.

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MrSmartGuy
07/23/11 11:52:00 AM
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Sad to see 999 go and Ace Attorney Investigations, but I regret nothing in pushing EBA above them.

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transience
07/24/11 5:51:00 AM
#37:


Awesome Animation Division Results

+108 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
+101 Ghost Trick
+81 Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
+78 Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
+60 Kirby's Canvas Curse
+50 Mario Kart DS
+46 Dragon Quest IX
+16 Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia


It wasn't until the last vote that Phoenix Wright actually took the lead. Advance Wars took the early lead and then Ghost Trick took over about halfway through. Phoenix Wright finally blasted to first place on the last two votes.

The big match here was Dawn of Sorrow vs. Kirby's Canvas Curse. They were tied for much of the match until a +10 and a +8 for Dawn of Sorrow put it over. Now that Dawn is the last Castlevania game left, it can't be held down by bad matchups anymore!

Star of the Round: I dunno, probably Advance Wars. It gets lots of +10s which makes it really thrive in this format. I'll be curious to see if it gets outclassed badly next round.

Turd of the Round: Mario Kart DS. Everything else did alright. Mario Kart DS losing to Kirby's Canvas Curse is a little disappointing though.

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/24/11 5:58:00 AM
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Aww Mario Kart.

Still, finally a day where I like all the games that won.

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mnkboy907
07/24/11 8:57:00 AM
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Poor DQIX... :(

Also, today's division is really tough. There are five games I want to fit into the Top 4. @_@

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transience
07/24/11 9:35:00 AM
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today's round is pretty much over. only four games here are worth a damn.

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Suprak the Stud
07/24/11 5:32:00 PM
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YESSSSS EBA

I thought for sure it was going to get edged out because of how strong that division was. Sad to see AAI go, but at least EBA was the one to take its place.

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transience
07/25/11 7:34:00 AM
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No Action Game Division Results

+131 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
+116 Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
+98 Professor Layton and the Curious Village
+87 Chrono Trigger DS
+71 Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey
+16 Animal Crossing: Wild World
+16 Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
+5 Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

There were only five games worth a damn here. If this field was more stacked then I expect Chrono Trigger would have been out. People generally like to give points to original games and SMT has shown that it will always get its votes from superfans. SMT fans will have to be content with Devil Survivor winning a competitive division outright.

Other than that, this was a boring division. PW3, M&L3 and Layton were in a division once before and finished in the same order. Round 2 is now over and we've got 16 strong games left.

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transience
07/25/11 7:45:00 AM
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16 games left -

Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Chrono Trigger DS
Contra 4
Elite Beat Agents / Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
Ghost Trick
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Meteos
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations
Pokemon Black/White
Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
The World Ends With You

By my math:

Developer -

Nintendo - 4
Capcom - 3
Konami - 2
Square-Enix - 2
Atlus - 1
Cing - 1
Inis - 1
Level 5 - 1
Q Entertainment - 1

Genre -

Adventure - 5
RPG - 4
Action - 2
Rhythm - 2
Pokemon - 2
Strategy - 1

That's a pretty good top 16, I guess. I expect it's better than any other Nintendo system would have given how strong Nintendo is as a developer.

I know what I'm gonna do for round 3, just gotta write it all up

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th3l3fty
07/25/11 7:50:00 AM
#44:


TWEWY was developed by Jupiter Corporation, not Square-Enix!

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