Board 8 > Helmetless Motorcyclist dies in protest against Mandatory Helmet Laws

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fell off his bike and hit his head.


Oh irony.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/04/new.york.motorcyclist.death/index.html?eref=rss_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+Top+Stories%29

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im confused

does this make you happy or sad?

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neither.

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oh

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As ironic as it is I don't really get why people are required to wear a helmet. He's not endangering the life of another person by not wearing a helmet.

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The Real Truth posted...
As ironic as it is I don't really get why people are required to wear a helmet. He's not endangering the life of another person by not wearing a helmet.

Same thing with Seatbelts. I'm only endangering myself, why does the gov't care? But then again Suicide is apparently illegal. so....

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The government justifies this crap by claiming that these people raise the medical costs for everyone else, which is somewhat true.

And as they continue to socialize our medical system and move towards single-payer, you can expect MORE of these restrictions, as that justification becomes MORE true. Just you wait Palmer, pretty soon eating at Wendys more than once a week will be illegal!

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but i don't eat at Wendys ever!

well not for a year or so

i miss free nuggets :(

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The Real Truth posted...
As ironic as it is I don't really get why people are required to wear a helmet. He's not endangering the life of another person by not wearing a helmet.

have you ever had compassion or empathy for another human being

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WVl posted...
The Real Truth posted...
As ironic as it is I don't really get why people are required to wear a helmet. He's not endangering the life of another person by not wearing a helmet.

have you ever had compassion or empathy for another human being

He's not compassionless, he's just wondering why we have laws protecting people from their own stupidity.

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OctilIery posted...
WVl posted...
The Real Truth posted...
As ironic as it is I don't really get why people are required to wear a helmet. He's not endangering the life of another person by not wearing a helmet.

have you ever had compassion or empathy for another human being

He's not compassionless, he's just wondering why we have laws protecting people from their own stupidity.

have you ever had compassion or empathy for another human being

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WVl posted...
In case I'm not making myself clear, I find it downright unsettling that people believe that it's okay for someone to be killed as long as it's their fault.

I don't believe it is, and I wasn't arguing it.

I believe in assisted suicide, but that's about as far as that line of support goes for me.

However, my point is more that we shouldn't be wasting effort on protecting people from the sheer stupidity of something like this.

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What are we wasting, exactly?

What is the detriment of mandatory helmet laws if you think everyone should be wearing them?

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They look silly.

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It's like a 15 year old girl being told she is forbidden from dating the slacker no good Highschool Senior. What is the first thing that girl does? She sneaks out her bedroom window to go meet up with said Highschool Senior.

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What's the point of parking lots outside of bars? How many actually have a designated driver?

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WVl posted...
What are we wasting, exactly?

What is the detriment of mandatory helmet laws if you think everyone should be wearing them?

Wasting money and time on enforcement that could be better spent on other issues, when it's something that should be common sense.

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More money to pump into that War on Drugs.

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OctilIery posted...
WVl posted...
What are we wasting, exactly?

What is the detriment of mandatory helmet laws if you think everyone should be wearing them?

Wasting money and time on enforcement that could be better spent on other issues, when it's something that should be common sense.

Okay. That's absolutely ridiculous and doesn't hold any bearing in reality or any sense of practicality, but I see where you're coming from.

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SBell0105 posted...
More money to pump into that War on Drugs.

tbqh Pot is another thing that should be legalized. Wasting who knows how much on something harmless when we could and should be gaining money on it instead.

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Pot will be legalized eventually, just like gay marriage. A lot of old people with certain beliefs are still around.

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And gay marriage isn't even something that should be able to be illegal, given that it causes no harm to anyone.

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The government justifies this crap by claiming that these people raise the medical costs for everyone else, which is somewhat true.

they aren't raising the medical costs if they're dying!

Motorcycle helmet use dropped from 67% in 2009 to 54% in 2010, according to a press release issued by the Governors Highway Safety Association.

54%? Man, people are idiots.

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From: SBell0105 | #007
Same thing with Seatbelts. I'm only endangering myself

untrue. you could fly out of your car on impact and hit somebody.

just think of the carnage.

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From: Cybat | #151
54%? Man, people are idiots.

You've been on this board for while right? Are you that surprised?

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If you're riding a motorcycle, safety isn't your first priority to begin with. Not surprised only half of them wear helmets.

People are against seatbelt and helmet laws because it is entirely beyond the right of a government to make such laws. If you have a government of free people, the only legitimate laws are those that govern your dealings with others. Rules that you have to follow even if you don't interact with another human in any way are suitable only for slaves. Seatbelt and Helmet laws do not create an enslaved people, but any government willing to enact such laws is willing to enact any other law they find convenient.

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Liquid Wind posted...
The government justifies this crap by claiming that these people raise the medical costs for everyone else, which is somewhat true.

they aren't raising the medical costs if they're dying!

Death is expensive, believe it or not.

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I literally made this topic yesterday and it got two posts. Lame.

Also, this was unfortunate.

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If you're riding a motorcycle, safety isn't your first priority to begin with. Not surprised only half of them wear helmets.

Motorcycles are plenty safe if you aren't stupid. Crashes are more dangerous, but you generally won't have a serious crash if you're smart.

People are against seatbelt and helmet laws because it is entirely beyond the right of a government to make such laws. If you have a government of free people, the only legitimate laws are those that govern your dealings with others. Rules that you have to follow even if you don't interact with another human in any way are suitable only for slaves. Seatbelt and Helmet laws do not create an enslaved people, but any government willing to enact such laws is willing to enact any other law they find convenient.

A very very valid point. The same logic that applies to gay marriage.

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"People are against seatbelt and helmet laws because it is entirely beyond the right of a government to make such laws. If you have a government of free people, the only legitimate laws are those that govern your dealings with others. Rules that you have to follow even if you don't interact with another human in any way are suitable only for slaves. Seatbelt and Helmet laws do not create an enslaved people, but any government willing to enact such laws is willing to enact any other law they find convenient."

Do you realize what an insane leap of logic this is?

Do you really think that the intent of safety laws is to restrict, and that it follows the same paradigm that would have them pass laws for the sake of government convenience?

I don't know what to say to you people. You have no grasp on reality. None.

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People are against seatbelt and helmet laws because it is entirely beyond the right of a government to make such laws. If you have a government of free people, the only legitimate laws are those that govern your dealings with others. Rules that you have to follow even if you don't interact with another human in any way are suitable only for slaves. Seatbelt and Helmet laws do not create an enslaved people, but any government willing to enact such laws is willing to enact any other law they find convenient.

The intent doesn't matter. The fact is it IS the government overreaching. I'm not saying they're bad laws, but he does have a valid point that you can't ignore - The government stepping in and telling you how to be when it doesn't involve others sets a bad precedent.

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WVI the communist.

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Pretty sure a law like this gets pushed more by PACS that are representing the motorcycle companies and less by politicians that are trying to control your lives. If somebody dies using your product it's not really good for business, whether they were being idiots or not doesn't really matter.

Basically, "How can we make motorcycles appear safer so more people will buy them?"

"Force people to wear helmets so that there are less deaths and we can advertise that!"

"GENIUS"

So they give a lot of money to a candidate so that he'll push the law for them.

This topic certainly raises a problem with our government but it isn't the problem that people are addressing.

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**** ain't irony.

It would be ironic if he cracked his head at a rally promoting/supporting helmet laws.

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From: SBell0105 | #007
Same thing with Seatbelts. I'm only endangering myself

This is totally wrong, by the way.

Glad someone else mentioned this, at least.

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It's not beneficial for the government to allow people to die in stupid ways. Simple. I can't believe people are arguing about this.

I find it astounding that I live in a state that has both mandatory seatbelt laws and legalization of assisted suicide.

Government: "It's ok for you to kill yourself, but to put yourself in danger? HELL NO!"

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PrinceKaro posted...
I find it astounding that I live in a state that has both mandatory seatbelt laws and legalization of assisted suicide.

Government: "It's ok for you to kill yourself, but to put yourself in danger? HELL NO!"

Seatbelt laws also tend to cover passengers, no?

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uhhhh

assisted suicide and not wearing a seatbelt are not the same thing

at all

Paratroopa1 posted...
uhhhh

assisted suicide and not wearing a seatbelt are not the same thing

at all

I never said they were. But both laws have to do with the rights and life of an individual, and I find it ironic that some of the same people who think that sick people should have a right to die if they should so choose would be against people having the right to put themselves in a dangerous situation (such as not wearing a seatbelt). What's next, a ban on mountain climbing and doing skateboarding tricks?

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