Board 8 > this is Mer's dream roster for SSB4.

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StealThisSheen
07/02/11 2:37:00 AM
#51:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
It's stupid to think a character that has never been on a Nintendo console ever would belong in this game.

Oh wait sorry. He cameod in the gameboy advance kingdom hearts game.

Clearly a viable choice.



...Wait, what?

The company produces multiplatform games, just like Sega and Konami. It's no different than Sonic or Snake. Just because they had games on Nintendo consoles doesn't change anything, since Final Fantasy HAS and still is a series that shows up on Nintendo consoles.

Whereas Halo is purely Xbox, console-wise.

Do you really not see why your comparison was stupid.



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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
07/02/11 2:38:00 AM
#52:


SEP I think we've found the first subject ever that we can be on the same side of an argument on

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YetAnothrShadow
07/02/11 2:39:00 AM
#53:


StealThisSheen posted...
YetAnothrShadow posted...
It's stupid to think a character that has never been on a Nintendo console ever would belong in this game.

Oh wait sorry. He cameod in the gameboy advance kingdom hearts game.

Clearly a viable choice.


...Wait, what?

The company produces multiplatform games, just like Sega and Konami. It's no different than Sonic or Snake. Just because they had games on Nintendo consoles doesn't change anything, since Final Fantasy HAS and still is a series that shows up on Nintendo consoles.

Whereas Halo is purely Xbox, console-wise.

Do you really not see why your comparison was stupid.

I'm not talking about company wise.

I'm talking about character wise.

But whatever believe what you guys want.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
07/02/11 2:40:00 AM
#54:


I'd be all for Cecil or Crono being included over Cloud if people actually knew who the **** they were

but third party characters are basically giant pieces of stunt casting fanservice

Nintendo would be stupid to include any Square character other than Cloud.

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GuessMyUserName
07/02/11 2:44:00 AM
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I really wouldn't be surprised if, and I mean IF, Square picked a FF6 rep, they would choose Kefka. I mean yeah, Square chooses Terra as the "leader" of the Returners, but she just doesn't stand out much, and FF6 leader arguments happen all the time, the game often gets the "no distinct leader" argument. Kefka though is the definite opposer, and was totally the best thing about Dissidia.

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speedpunk
07/02/11 2:46:00 AM
#56:


Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...
I'd be all for Cecil or Crono being included over Cloud if people actually knew who the **** they were

but third party characters are basically giant pieces of stunt casting fanservice

Nintendo would be stupid to include any Square character other than Cloud.


I thought this was your dream roster? You said it wasn't meant to be realistic.

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StealThisSheen
07/02/11 2:47:00 AM
#57:


Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...
SEP I think we've found the first subject ever that we can be on the same side of an argument on


I'm gonna print it out and frame it to commemorate this occasion that may never happen again.



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HanOfTheNekos
07/02/11 2:50:00 AM
#58:


and how the **** is Cloud at all similar to DeDeDe?

Large weapon.

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MoogleKupo141
07/02/11 2:50:00 AM
#59:


Final Fantasy and Nintendo have crossed over pretty recently in those dumb Mario basketball games

all the FF characters in those games were FF1 classes or mascot dudes. I doubt they'd go with Cloud for SSB.

really, if we ended up with anything from Square-Enix, I'd expect a DQ character... or Sora if they could deal with Disney too.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/02/11 2:51:00 AM
#60:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Final Fantasy and Nintendo have crossed over pretty recently in those dumb Mario basketball games

all the FF characters in those games were FF1 classes or mascot dudes. I doubt they'd go with Cloud for SSB.

really, if we ended up with anything from Square-Enix, I'd expect a DQ character... or Sora if they could deal with Disney too.



I think a Yuna moveset would be rad.



Also, this list could use more Phoenix Wright.

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StealThisSheen
07/02/11 2:52:00 AM
#61:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
I'm not talking about company wise.

I'm talking about character wise.

But whatever believe what you guys want.



And I'm saying Cloud is from a series that has appeared on Nintendo consoles, so he may as well have been on them himself. It's not like Final Fantasy is foreign to Nintendo. At all.

I mean, would you try to argue Cecil couldn't appear in a Microsoft version of SSB if Square was gonna give a character?



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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
07/02/11 2:53:00 AM
#62:


From: speedpunk | #056
I thought this was your dream roster? You said it wasn't meant to be realistic.


It is my dream roster. It's realistic given Nintendo doesn't **** **** up.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/02/11 2:57:00 AM
#63:


Also, Mer, it's Ghirahim. Not Griharim.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/02/11 2:58:00 AM
#64:


I mean, would you try to argue Cecil couldn't appear in a Microsoft version of SSB if Square was gonna give a character?

Yeah. If I were to play such a game.

Here's the deal. Nintendo seems to care more about characters than how much a series is represented if at all. That's why there's a huge disproportional representation of characters. This isn't about representing Final Fantasy. I don't get where people keep getting this from my argument.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/02/11 3:00:00 AM
#65:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
I mean, would you try to argue Cecil couldn't appear in a Microsoft version of SSB if Square was gonna give a character?

Yeah. If I were to play such a game.

Here's the deal. Nintendo seems to care more about characters than how much a series is represented if at all. That's why there's a huge disproportional representation of characters. This isn't about representing Final Fantasy. I don't get where people keep getting this from my argument.


You said it's not about the company, but the characters.

Cloud is the most recognizable FF character.

Your point still isn't getting across.

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GuessMyUserName
07/02/11 3:04:00 AM
#66:


Gmun Dream Roster Time

15 characters lets do this

1. Lyndis
2. Shulk
3. Sylux
4. King K. Rool
5. Lord Ghirahim
6. Bearded Isaac
7. Animal Crosser (character depends on your own AC save file)
8. Mii (yes I want Mii Support, sue me)
9. Rosalina
10. Krystal
11. Samurai Goroh
12. Mega Man X
13. Celes Chere
14. Phoenix Wright
15. Travis Touchdown

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YetAnothrShadow
07/02/11 3:07:00 AM
#67:


I made my point pretty clear.

If Square wanted to put a character in. Nintendo probably wouldn't choose Cloud since he was barely appeared on a Nintendo console. They wouldn't choose him because he is the most recognized FF character, That's only if they wanted to represent the Final Fantasy series. Which isn't what Nintendo would want to do.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/02/11 3:11:00 AM
#68:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
I made my point pretty clear.

If Square wanted to put a character in. Nintendo probably wouldn't choose Cloud since he was barely appeared on a Nintendo console. They wouldn't choose him because he is the most recognized FF character, That's only if they wanted to represent the Final Fantasy series. Which isn't what Nintendo would want to do.


Ok then, I get you.

So then, if Nintendo included a Square character, Sora would be the only possible choice, because Nintendo likes advertising for their games, and there's a new Kingdom Hearts coming out on the 3DS.

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StealThisSheen
07/02/11 3:18:00 AM
#69:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
I made my point pretty clear.

If Square wanted to put a character in. Nintendo probably wouldn't choose Cloud since he was barely appeared on a Nintendo console. They wouldn't choose him because he is the most recognized FF character, That's only if they wanted to represent the Final Fantasy series. Which isn't what Nintendo would want to do.



Depends how you look at it. On the opposite side, they could choose Cloud because they want sales for THAT game (SSB) to rise, and so they'd pander to people that may not normally purchase it.



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Random_Guy_42
07/02/11 7:01:00 AM
#70:


How ****ing awesome would it be if Zoroark's Illusion ability carried into SSB4.

Like you start combat and it's all "You're player 3 and you're Captain Falcon" or something while you're on 0%.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/02/11 7:56:00 AM
#71:


Well, Nintendo included a stage based on a PlayStation game in Brawl.

We'll ignore the fact that said game has a GameCube remake, requested by none other than Shigeru Miyamoto himself.

But still. MGS is a series mostly on Sony consoles, so...oh wait, MGS has an at least decent presence on Nintendo consoles, huh?

Yeah, Kefka would probably be the most likely inclusion. Or maybe Cecil.

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WazzupGenius00
07/02/11 8:17:00 AM
#72:


XFD people thinking ****ing KEFKA would be in this game

even Japan barely cares about FF6

Mer's is a damn good list, only things I would change are adding Birdo, and switching Diskun with Sukapon from Joy Mech Fight, and maybe ditching Ghiraham
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HanOfTheNekos
07/02/11 11:04:00 AM
#73:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Well, Nintendo included a stage based on a PlayStation game in Brawl.

We'll ignore the fact that said game has a GameCube remake, requested by none other than Shigeru Miyamoto himself.

But still. MGS is a series mostly on Sony consoles, so...oh wait, MGS has an at least decent presence on Nintendo consoles, huh?

Yeah, Kefka would probably be the most likely inclusion. Or maybe Cecil.


Did you ignore what I just said?

Sora's a deadlock.

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