I am not one to easily lose their patience, but I am on the verge of just giving up on these games, at least for the foreseeable future.
Metal Gear Solid 3 is a game that I was given by a friend shortly after launch because he did not like it. Well, I did not like either and sold it for close to $30. I forgot the reasons why I did not like it but a user here thought it could have been the camera and since I had the Subsistance version, that would not be a problem. Well, I know remember why I didn't like it after playing it tonight. The beginning is awful. I can't really describe it much better than that. One of the best examples iswhen I came to a bridge and I took out the first guard but then two more appeared on the bridge and then more kept appearing beyond the bridge and I somehow had to deal with this crap with a knife, though I somehow must have been able to back in the day.
Shadow of the Colossus just has awkward physics and an awkward control scheme that results in having quite a steep learning curve for just the basics. I keep dying to the first colossi because I cannot seem to grasp everything yet and I keep getting the feeling that I never will.
God Hand is fine and all until boss fights because your moves suddenly become so powerless that you have to land an extraordinarily high amount of normal moves in addition to some of those signature moves just to even come close to beating them because they always seem to have one cheap move in their arsenal. I am currently at the Fat Elvis, I want to think that's his name, fight in a graveyard and that is only Chapter 2. I don't want to keep seeing this cycle repeat but it's been doing that since the beginning.
I know these games have a lot of fans on the board so try and persuade me to give these games another shot
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From: KCF0107 | #001 One of the best examples iswhen I came to a bridge and I took out the first guard but then two more appeared on the bridge and then more kept appearing beyond the bridge and I somehow had to deal with this crap with a knife, though I somehow must have been able to back in the day.
I'm not sure how you're having this problem! You should have a Mk-22 from the very beginning of the game, and tranquilizers make the game easier.
Plus, MGS3 doesn't have infinite reinforcements like the previous two games did.
I will admit MGS3 gets off to a slow start, but once it gets going, that game never stops. Top 3 game for me.
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From: KCF0107 | #001 Shadow of the Colossus just has awkward physics and an awkward control scheme that results in having quite a steep learning curve for just the basics. I keep dying to the first colossi because I cannot seem to grasp everything yet and I keep getting the feeling that I never will.
Seriously? It...really isn't that hard to get used to the control scheme.
Man, I thought SotC had an amazing control scheme. Like literally, if you were to ask me about great control schemes I'd honestly mention SotC. Unless you're tryinh to stand on top of your horse while throwing arrows (I think it's possible) then it should pretty simple. I'd recommend just going around the world enjoying the sights and getting fruit/lizards to get accostumed to the controls, if it's such a bother. It really is an experience unlike any other, one everyone should at least see in its entirety.
Can't say much about the others, I'm actually playing MGS3 too first time.
My weapons inventory says that I have like a knife/gun combo but when I actually select it, it gives just a knife and when I cycle through my weapons stash with the R2 button, I only have the knife and sound thing
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Never got into MGS games (and yet beat the first 3). SotC is about puzzles and is really not as complicated as it looks. God Hand is the same as any hardcore action game, in that the bosses often will defeat you repeatedly, but are definitely doable. Might want to mess with your moveset a bit to see if that helps, and remember, landing enough normals on a boss will stun them and let you do a QTE of sorts for significant damage.
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Are you playing Virtuous Mission or Operation Snake Eater?
You say "beginning of the game," but I'm assuming you mean the Virtuous Mission. If you're playing the beginning of Operation Snake Eater, then yeah, you start off with no equipment.
But if you're playing the Virtuous Mission, there's no reason you shouldn't have a gun.
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paperwarior posted... Might want to mess with your moveset a bit to see if that helps, and remember, landing enough normals on a boss will stun them and let you do a QTE of sorts for significant damage.
I might just do the first thing because I do the second thing all the time
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LeonhartFour posted... Are you playing Virtuous Mission or Operation Snake Eater?
You say "beginning of the game," but I'm assuming you mean the Virtuous Mission. If you're playing the beginning of Operation Snake Eater, then yeah, you start off with no equipment.
But if you're playing the Virtuous Mission, there's no reason you shouldn't have a gun.
Whatever the hell has me in the jungle is what I am doing
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LeonhartFour posted... Also, call your radio team often for help, seriously.
And just for good fun.
MGS3 radio team the best
I did, one kept talking about movies from the 30s-50s and the other keeps saying the same thing about saving the scientist. The Boss pretty much only talks about camo and hunting
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SotC is always pretty clunky. I'm a bit surprised to hear you're not even able to get past the first level, though. Like I didn't think the game was difficult to control just annoying.
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TVontheRadio posted... *reads all of TC's problems*
dude
get better at video games
or just read the manuals or something
No need to be to a jerk. I did look at the manuals but if you honestly read my problems, then you would realize that they don't apply to my problems with SotC and God Hand. I thought that I had read the manual quite thoroughly for MGS3 but if they do talk about the inventory and backpack limitations thing, then it appears that I did not do as good of a job as I originally thought
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Thanks for everyone's input. It isn't often that I get to the point of needing outside help, but I know that I can count on you guys to help me out and be considerate about it
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You just said something that may be the reason why I was doing so bad. When it shakes, don't move? I think that I interpreted that as get to one of those platforms on its body and kept falling off it
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And how are you having so much trouble on the first colossus? You just grab on the fur and hold the button, move to its weak point, press Square once wait a bit to fully charge and then stab, and repeat until it dies, and then do that for the rest of the them.
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Okay, I finally got past the bridge in MGS3 but I keep alerting guards in the factory so I stopped. I don't really like the idea of a stealth game in a wide open setting where guards can easily blend into the setting and can see you from miles away.
However, my faith in SotC is restored completely. I beat the first two colossi and I just love the fights. I kind of feel like the biggest as***** in the world because I am killing these majestic creatures that don't seem all that aggressive or anything. I am not a big fan of what happens between fights because it is bare of puzzles and platforming for the most part and mostly consists of looking at the scenery while on your trusty steed.
I also want to find out the music that was playing during the second colossi fight because it was awesome
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In the very early going, it might be easier to just kill the guards. Sneak up on them, use CQC, then knife them in the neck while they're dizzy. Then get rid of the body somewhere
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From: KCF0107 | #032 Okay, I finally got past the bridge in MGS3 but I keep alerting guards in the factory so I stopped. I don't really like the idea of a stealth game in a wide open setting where guards can easily blend into the setting and can see you from miles away.
Unless you're just standing up in the middle of everything, they shouldn't be able to spot you "from miles away." If you're on the ground (especially in something like tall grass) with 80-85% camo index, they shouldn't be able to spot you unless you're close by and they're looking right at you (or you're making noise).
But setting off alerts in MGS3 is going to happen quite frequently, so don't let it discourage you because sometimes guards do sneak up on you. In the factory area, you can actually crawl underneath the factory and hide until alert goes away.
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And yeah, just take out guards whenever possible in MGS3. Hopefully, you've picked up a couple of silencers for your tranquilizer so it should make your life easier.
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LeonhartFour posted... But setting off alerts in MGS3 is going to happen quite frequently, so don't let it discourage you because sometimes guards do sneak up on you. In the factory area, you can actually crawl underneath the factory and hide until alert goes away.
That is actually what I did and I waited until alert, evasion, and caution were all cleared and then no matter which exit I took, there was a guard staring right at me at an angle that I could not see
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I don't really need to persuade you because I still like them anyway.
God Hand is awesome. It's a tough game. If you're having trouble on chapter 2, you probably won't like the rest of it. Maybe you just have to take it in stride and accept that you'll die.
SotC is great.
MGS3 has camera issues, but you have Substance, so I don't know.
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Oh and I guess that the latest people have not realized that users have already motivated me to return to playing these games and I now kind of use this as a playthrough topic of sorts
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