Board 8 > MvC3 is so stupid.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/29/11 11:06:00 AM
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Seriously. Dumbest fighter ever. And I just watched THIS:



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Justin_Crossing
06/29/11 11:10:00 AM
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As long as I enjoy playing it then I don't really care about what the competitive community does.

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 11:15:00 AM
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MvC3 desperately needs a burst mechanic.

Like, if you want to fill the game with brainless 60% combos, then whatever.

But don't fill the game with brainless 60% combos without having some sort of get out of jail free card.

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KommunistKoala
06/29/11 11:16:00 AM
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What's stupid about that video?

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:17:00 AM
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DAT JW BEATING

Meh Blazblue is better =P

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GANON1025
06/29/11 11:17:00 AM
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I love watching competitive MvC3, and playing it is fun too. I guess I just disagree with you! Hope that's OK, don't get mad!

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 11:17:00 AM
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KommunistKoala posted...
What's stupid about that video?

I didn't watch the whole thing, but considering that Wolverine's in it, it probably has something to do with one of the fastest characters in the game having 80% combos on every member of the cast.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/29/11 11:18:00 AM
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KommunistKoala posted...
What's stupid about that video?

Grand Finals match.

Being tapped by any attack combos into an 80% combo.

The unavoidable chip damage being completely stupid.

No sense whatsoever.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/29/11 11:19:00 AM
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GANON1025 posted...
I love watching competitive MvC3, and playing it is fun too. I guess I just disagree with you! Hope that's OK, don't get mad!

F*** YOU!

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:21:00 AM
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lmao

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KommunistKoala
06/29/11 11:21:00 AM
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Well Wolverine is a bit absurd damage-wise, yeah.

But it's also Justin Wong, so it's not that surprising.

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GANON1025
06/29/11 11:22:00 AM
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:(

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:22:00 AM
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looks like JW did follow up on his troll video XD

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 11:24:00 AM
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Didn't see anything wrong with that video. Street Fighter IV has combos that are just as bad.

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 11:26:00 AM
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Since someone brought up BlazBlue, it's actually quite funny.

One of the biggest criticisms of Continuum Shift was that Litchi and Bang could combo you from coast to coast for massive damage for ten minutes for a massive chunk of your life, and even bursts didn't justify it. Getting hit by c. L in MvC3 will often kill you and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. MvC3 gets a free pass, CS is called garbage.

CSII comes out and completely changes the way the game is played, with less emphasis on midscreen madness and more on cornering an opponent and putting the pressure on. It also went from 5 viable characters to everyone minus two being considered good, and with no dominant force reigning over the metagame. Arcade Edition completely destroyed the concept of balance and went from "anyone but Hakan could impress you" to " Super Twin Fighter IV: Fei Long Edition featuring The Rest." AE ruined a nearly perfect game and CSII vastly improved a bad one. AE gets hyped to hell and back while CSII is left in the dust.

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voltch
06/29/11 11:26:00 AM
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Its Justin Wong.

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 11:27:00 AM
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The fighting game community doesn't care about non-Capcom games. It sucks, but what ya gonna do.

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voltch
06/29/11 11:29:00 AM
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Cry moar is what some users will do.

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Weakupedia
06/29/11 11:30:00 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Didn't see anything wrong with that video. Street Fighter IV has combos that are just as bad.

not quite

yun has one that does 700~ damage, but it's pretty situational and definitely not as common as MVC3.

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:30:00 AM
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meh imo CS2 Makoto is worse than Litchi in terms of eating your health with that loop / corner trap of hers.

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 11:32:00 AM
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Pirateking2000 posted...
CS2 Makoto is worse than Litchi

No.

I did read the rest of your post, for the record.

But no.

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 11:32:00 AM
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Weakupedia posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Didn't see anything wrong with that video. Street Fighter IV has combos that are just as bad.

not quite

yun has one that does 700~ damage, but it's pretty situational and definitely not as common as MVC3.


The thing about MVC3's combos is that unless you screw up and get your assist caught in a combo, those '80%' combos people rave about only affect one character. You've got three life bars - you will, at most, lose 1/3 of your health. It's very easy to do that kind of damage in SSFIV.

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Weakupedia
06/29/11 11:35:00 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Weakupedia posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Didn't see anything wrong with that video. Street Fighter IV has combos that are just as bad.

not quite

yun has one that does 700~ damage, but it's pretty situational and definitely not as common as MVC3.

The thing about MVC3's combos is that unless you screw up and get your assist caught in a combo, those '80%' combos people rave about only affect one character. You've got three life bars - you will, at most, lose 1/3 of your health. It's very easy to do that kind of damage in SSFIV.


i guess if you put it that way, that's true. either way, i'm not a fan of mvc and i don't think i ever will be!

ridiculously long combos and OTG no thank you

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:35:00 AM
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meh guess its just from my experience I guess since there weren't many good Litchis like in some vids I have seen on youtube where Litchi is going around getting you into a corner from any combo and take like 5K

but faced some crazy Bangs (probably cause he is easier to use than Litchi I guess)

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 11:38:00 AM
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Yeah that's fine, I just never got why people went "MVC3 has super easy 80% combos what a crock" when it's 80% of one life bar, and you can switch out and get some life back anyway. In my experience MVC3 matches take just as long as SSFIV matches.

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:39:00 AM
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^ Those long combos eat at timer / can be boring to sit through

and Deadpool has an infinite one that kills you via timeout sooo...

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-FFDragon-
06/29/11 11:39:00 AM
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voltch posted...
Its Justin Wong.

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Dauntless Hunter
06/29/11 11:41:00 AM
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From: voltch | #018
Cry moar is what some users will do.


Play Mortal Kombat is what I will do.

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 11:42:00 AM
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I don't find the combos too long to sit through. If anything, it gives me time to plan my next move, whether I'm on the giving or receiving end of the combo.

And the game has some infinites but as far as I know they don't really matter. They're too hard to do and the payoff isn't going to be very good due to damage scaling as you'll probably eventually drop it. You'd be better off learning an actual combo that you're much less likely to drop. I've never seen anyone in a tournament setting bother with an infinite.

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 11:42:00 AM
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I still haven't gotten around to buying Mortal Kombat.

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KamikazePotato
06/29/11 11:44:00 AM
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And yes,

voltch posted...
Its Justin Wong.

Justin is basically the god of this game. The other guy was turtling with a Phoenix team, and Justin not only absolutely massacres turtlers, but he's definitely trained to take out Phoenix early.

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YetAnothrShadow
06/29/11 11:46:00 AM
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YetAnothrShadow
06/29/11 11:47:00 AM
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I traded my copy of MvC3 in.

Mainly because I did everyone you can possibly do offline, and online was boring since I didn't feel spending hours memorizing twitchy combos and infinites and playing a game of who hits who first. With no DLC at all lately, there's little to nothing I want to do with it.

Plus SMvC3 is pretty much inevitable so I'll wait for that.

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YetAnothrShadow
06/29/11 11:47:00 AM
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everything*

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Oranejo
06/29/11 11:49:00 AM
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I like watching competitive MvC3 but I can not really stand playing it anymore.

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paperwarior
06/29/11 11:50:00 AM
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I don't know how MK is competitively, but it's so goddamn fun.

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BIGPUN9999
06/29/11 11:52:00 AM
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MvC2 is worse so yea

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Pirateking2000
06/29/11 11:52:00 AM
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Should probably play MK sometime =/

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KommunistKoala
06/29/11 11:54:00 AM
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Well MK..might be better now? It used to be Kung Laos everywhere (which I'm personally fine with) but since he was mega-nerfed, I think it's a bit more balanced

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Oranejo
06/29/11 11:56:00 AM
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MK9 is probably the most basic out of the current fighters, but it is a lot of fun to play. NRS really needs to work on the netcode though.

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OctilIery
06/29/11 12:00:00 PM
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I see nothing wrong with this.

It goes both ways tbqh.

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 12:01:00 PM
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I think the day I realized that MvC3 combos are dumb was the day I had to sit through a full She-Hulk combo.

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