Board 8 > Team Fortress 2 Discussion Topic: Where we lament the loss of wavedash [tf2]

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dinobot19
07/03/11 4:05:00 PM
#151:


MFU is still the best!

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biolizardfan
07/03/11 4:06:00 PM
#152:


Yeah that 0/24 is awesome

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dinobot19
07/03/11 4:40:00 PM
#153:


It's not dead on mondays, wednesdays, or thursdays!

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metroid composite
07/03/11 4:47:00 PM
#154:


Epyo the Great posted...
Why does Valve keep heavies powerful as much as they can? Because they are central to the game in a way no other class is (besides medic). They're sort of the tank class. Valve does what they have to do to get people to play heavy--make it powerful, because it's not interesting enough to play by default. That's why medic and heavy got the first class updates.

Err...no? Heavy is not that central to the game. Medic obviously is central to the game. Soldier I would list as central (if you listen to the designer commentary, every single map is designed with rocket jump height in mind, and their knockback is a big deal, and a lot of HPs are designed with rocket clip size in mind). Engineer is central to the game (above a certain number of people, engies could have teleporters and nothing else and still be worth using, and despite the high-pop focus of the class, they're still sometimes used in 6v6 on defence. Not to mention an entire class has a weapon that only works on engies). And maybe Demo is central to the game (even ignoring how nuts they are in 6v6, all kinds of stuff was added to the game just to handle stickies. Bullets kill them and airblast knocks them away. Oh, and they're "the blindfire class").

Heavy/Scout/Sniper are the next tier down. "They kill things, and they have the most range/HP/mobility." With Sniper probably the class out of those three that the most stuff is designed around (like class HP and maps). The game still works fine without them, though; if one of them were removed from the game, something else would fill the niche (like without Sniper, Demo becomes the go-to long-range class).

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Epyo the Great
07/03/11 11:16:00 PM
#155:


looking for strange grenade launcher, will trade strange eyelander, 2 strange eyelanders, or one of the new weapons i have (i have a lot of extras, like mantreads)

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GANON1025
07/03/11 11:46:00 PM
#156:


I was wondering if anyone had extra summer coolers they were looking to part with? I haven't found any for myself yet. I don't know if anything I have is worth it, but here's what I got:

http://www.tf2items.com/id/heroicyoshimitsu

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Random_Guy_42
07/04/11 12:02:00 AM
#157:


I'll trade my one for a Series 20 crate I guess.
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YetAnothrShadow
07/04/11 4:31:00 AM
#158:


Don't know if this was posted yet but Fatman ( Heavy) now has a trailer on final combat.

http://fc.xunlei.com/

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GANON1025
07/04/11 6:29:00 AM
#159:


uhm, OK. I'm not quite sure how trading works though, I haven't actually done it yet.

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kurtfisto
07/04/11 6:30:00 AM
#160:


Are you a premium user yet? If not, you can't give anything, which makes trading with you undesirable.

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GANON1025
07/04/11 6:32:00 AM
#161:


well I mean sure I'm premium, I'm not THAT stupid

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VintageGin
07/04/11 7:32:00 AM
#162:


Ganon, did you seriously get three Mantreads as random drops? Wow

If you want, I'll give you a summer cooler + multiple items from the second page of my backpack for Mantreads.

http://www.tf2items.com/id/ginhyun

Let me know if you're interested.

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GANON1025
07/04/11 7:48:00 AM
#163:


Yeah. Why are they hard to get or something?

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VintageGin
07/04/11 7:51:00 AM
#164:


Well, they're difficult to craft, as are all the newest items. Just surprised you got three as random drops, since there are so many items that drop now.

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GANON1025
07/04/11 7:52:00 AM
#165:


Oh, I had gotten so many I thought they were common drops or something. And sure I'll trade Mantreads.

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VintageGin
07/04/11 7:54:00 AM
#166:


Alright, just pick out what you want from the second page of my backpack, then.

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GANON1025
07/04/11 8:02:00 AM
#167:


Here's the stuff from there that I'm interested in:

Brass Beast
Backburner
Candy Cane
Amputator
Concheror
Back Scratcher
Crusader's Crossbow
The Jag

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VintageGin
07/04/11 8:10:00 AM
#168:


...You have a backburner. Did you mean the degreaser?

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GANON1025
07/04/11 8:11:00 AM
#169:


ugh, yeah I meant Degreaser..

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VintageGin
07/04/11 8:14:00 AM
#170:


Also, you don't want the GRU?

I'll give you:
Degreaser
Brass Beast
Amputator
Candy Cane
The Jag
Summer Cooler (if you still want one)

I'll throw in a GRU if you want one.

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GANON1025
07/04/11 8:19:00 AM
#171:


OK, yeah that with the Cooler and GRU sounds good

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VintageGin
07/04/11 8:20:00 AM
#172:


Alright, I sent you a friend request. If you're free, just hop on TF2 for a bit and I'll send you a trade request.

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GANON1025
07/04/11 8:27:00 AM
#173:


Alright, thanks!!

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VintageGin
07/05/11 9:05:00 PM
#174:


so supposedly Drunken F00l got hired by Valve

kind of funny

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TheKoolAidShoto
07/06/11 9:35:00 AM
#175:


But only kinda

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DeathChicken
07/06/11 11:30:00 AM
#176:


Wow, I'm utterly terrible with Soldier. Can't hit a thing with him

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GANON1025
07/06/11 11:32:00 AM
#177:


I know a lot of people recommended soldier for beginners but I was never able to really do well with him

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/06/11 12:45:00 PM
#178:


Man, if Drunken F00L got hired for Valve, that would be stupid. The dude has already shown that he's untrustworthy. How do you trust him to not do something in his own favor again with employee-only information?

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WazzupGenius00
07/06/11 12:47:00 PM
#179:


DeathChicken posted...
Wow, I'm utterly terrible with Soldier. Can't hit a thing with him

are you aiming at people's bodies, or at their feet? You're supposed to aim at their feet so that the explosion hurts them if it hits the ground.

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Paratroopa1
07/06/11 12:50:00 PM
#180:


PrivateBiscuit1 | Posted 7/6/2011 12:45:41 PM | message detail | quote
Man, if Drunken F00L got hired for Valve, that would be stupid. The dude has already shown that he's untrustworthy. How do you trust him to not do something in his own favor again with employee-only information?


Because he's an employee and you're paying him?
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Epyo the Great
07/06/11 4:55:00 PM
#181:


No one would risk getting fired from a job like that.

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Epyo the Great
07/06/11 5:31:00 PM
#182:


Yeah, for soldier, you have to aim for their feet, that's just how you do damage. Rockets are easy to dodge and hard to aim. Also, keep in mind that most weapons have what is called "damage fall-off", meaning, the farther the projectile/bullet travels, the less damage it does. It keeps the game exciting. Rockets are affected greatly by the fall-off, being far can mean up to like 50% less damage, not to mention even less chance of hitting their bodies.

So, being gutsy and charging in can be extremely effective for the soldier. Fitting, for his personality =]

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dinobot19
07/07/11 7:36:00 PM
#183:


Aww yeah taking out a plat team (so they had a ton of subs, details)

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YetAnothrShadow
07/07/11 7:43:00 PM
#184:


I was dominating their plat solly for a while as Scout.

Feeling pretty good right now.

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dinobot19
07/08/11 7:45:00 AM
#185:


http://www.mediafire.com/?dfez43ek13ezt4j

Source TV link for our scrim last night if anyone is interested.

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dinobot19
07/08/11 9:55:00 AM
#186:


Wait, scratch that, the source tv works, I just can't play it, change loadouts, or join a server without crashing.....

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Paratroopa1
07/08/11 11:12:00 AM
#187:


Who did you guys scrim against? How did it go?
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dinobot19
07/08/11 2:29:00 PM
#188:


We scrimmed against clan mccart on freight, we won 10-2.

So I can't play tf2 right now unless everyone in the server uses stock items, else I crash.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
07/08/11 2:48:00 PM
#189:


That sever was a POS

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