Board 8 > Team Fortress 2 Discussion Topic: Where we lament the loss of wavedash [tf2]

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dinobot19
06/28/11 9:12:00 PM
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:(

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MajinZidane
06/28/11 9:12:00 PM
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hey I guess I'll post here and stuff woo

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06/28/11 9:17:00 PM
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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/28/11 9:20:00 PM
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too young ;_;

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GANON1025
06/28/11 9:27:00 PM
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Is there anything better than sneaking up on a potential big push by the other team and taking them all out with the Backburner? Probably but this is cool too

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dinobot19
06/28/11 9:28:00 PM
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THE GREATEST TAUNTKILL IN THE HISTORY OF TAUNTKILLS

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Biolizard28
06/28/11 9:29:00 PM
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Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
too young ;_;

Not young enough.

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Red Shifter
06/28/11 9:44:00 PM
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GANON1025 | Posted 6/29/2011 12:27:32 AM | message detail | quote
Is there anything better than sneaking up on a potential big push by the other team and taking them all out with the Backburner? Probably but this is cool too


Sneaking up on them with a regular ass minigun and ending the entire enemy team.

I probably dominated an entire 12-player team tonight.

Someone ended up earning High Priority Target off of me.

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VintageGin
06/28/11 10:05:00 PM
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RIP wavedash

Taken too soon

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kurtfisto
06/28/11 10:20:00 PM
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Where are the news to the nerfs?

also good games gin

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BrunomasterX
06/28/11 10:35:00 PM
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I'm liking the wave of newbies. Getting a 28 kill streak is satisfying, especially when your backup includes 3 snipers 4 spies and no medics >_>

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/28/11 10:36:00 PM
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Ive been improving my Solly play at least

outside Wavedashing, Gunslinging, and easy stab and headshot practice.

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dinobot19
06/28/11 10:47:00 PM
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Same shoe, I'm thinking about joining a 6v6 team as a roaming soldier next season (not this one coming up)

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VintageGin
06/28/11 10:53:00 PM
#14:


kurtfisto posted...
Where are the news to the nerfs?

Dunno why it's not under news in Steam, but:

- Fixed a case where CritBoost effects were being removed from players being healed.
- Fixed a problem with Arena mode first blood CritBoost not removing itself at the correct time.
- Fixed a bug where Demomen kept their leftover charge amount when self-aborting charges (you'll still keep leftovers when stopped by enemy airblasts)
- Fixed the problem that was causing Strange Demoman shields to not accumulate kills.
- Fixed a bug where the Reserve Shooter would minicrit against swimming targets.
- Tomislav spin-up reduction has been reduced from 75% to 40% (so it now spins-up slower)
- Made the Jumper's Jeepcap and Pocket Medic craft-able.
- Updated the bot navigation files for several maps.
- Added an entry for "Call Vote" to the Options->Keyboard Settings, so you can bind a key to it.
- Updated the gamehaptics file:
- Added/Refined recoil/draw/crit/reload forces for all of the new weapons in the Uber Update.
- Refined all Rocket Launcher Forces recoil forces to feel more true to recoil animation.
- Tuned Brass Beast recoil to have less of an impact on your aiming reticle.

also good games gin

Yeah, I still don't know how you can bear to play projectile classes with 200+ ping though. I've been playing gunslinger engy a lot mainly because my ping is unstable and my framerate isn't good enough for me to play scout.

Really want to get back to my desktop.

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FFaddict1313
06/28/11 11:04:00 PM
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tag

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kurtfisto
06/28/11 11:16:00 PM
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I feel better about trading my tomislav for this liberty launcher now, haha.

From: VintageGin | #014
Yeah, I still don't know how you can bear to play projectile classes with 200+ ping though. I've been playing gunslinger engy a lot mainly because my ping is unstable and my framerate isn't good enough for me to play scout.


Yeah, I tried playing Demoman and it's so difficult with that kind of ping. More tolerable with Soldier though since the Liberty Launcher is pretty fast and I still have a shotgun to resort to.

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Epyo the Great
06/29/11 12:32:00 AM
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* glad the shields were nerfed, they were fine before. being able to stop a charge trivializes the risk involved. it was cheap. and this is coming from someone who mains targe demo!

* tomislav is still probably OP, or at least extremely powerful. however if a heavy is owning with it too much, just roll out heavy yourself with sasha and you'll rip him up. even if he's got a medic.

* i love barnblitz. great map.

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 4:28:00 AM
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Tomislav barely changed at all. I don't know the actual stats, but you barely feel the difference. The spin up is still very fast, it's still silent, and the drop in fire rate doesn't mean a thing when you drop classes faster anyway with that lightning fast spin up.

tomislav is still probably OP, or at least extremely powerful. however if a heavy is owning with it too much, just roll out heavy yourself with sasha and you'll rip him up. even if he's got a medic.

This is the circular logic that got Natascha nerfed. "Having problems with that Heavy? Go Heavy."

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dinobot19
06/29/11 8:08:00 AM
#19:


Tips for new players:

How to subtly take out level 3 sentries:

How to make an amazing video where you go for a speedy cap of the enemy's intel, and run into para, who is holding your intel, which leads to the GREATEST JOUST THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN:

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VintageGin
06/29/11 8:15:00 AM
#20:


How did you survive that sentry? Also, I don't get why it stopped shooting at you while you were right in front of it (when you stared circle strafing it the other way).

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dinobot19
06/29/11 8:18:00 AM
#21:


VintageGin posted...
How did you survive that sentry? Also, I don't get why it stopped shooting at you while you were right in front of it (when you stared circle strafing it the other way).

The boots give +25hp, and I dodged the rockets, I ended up surviving with like 4 hp. Not sure why it stopped shooting me, it could be something with lag compensation affecting the video

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Biolizard28
06/29/11 8:35:00 AM
#22:


VintageGin posted...
How did you survive that sentry? Also, I don't get why it stopped shooting at you while you were right in front of it (when you stared circle strafing it the other way).

Actual reason: Sentries suck.

The Engineer sucks.

Valve doesn't care.

ANOTHER DEMO SWORD, MY GOOD MAN.

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dinobot19
06/29/11 8:43:00 AM
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XD

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/29/11 8:53:00 AM
#24:


Nobody cares, Bio.

Nobody cares.

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kurtfisto
06/29/11 9:20:00 AM
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From: dinobot19 | #019
How to subtly take out level 3 sentries:


What the crap? Did you know that would work?

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Mega Mana
06/29/11 9:54:00 AM
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I was expecting a Sandman to Bonk you at 3 seconds.

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dinobot19
06/29/11 10:50:00 AM
#27:


kurtfisto posted...
From: dinobot19 | #019
How to subtly take out level 3 sentries:
What the crap? Did you know that would work?



I knew it could work, theoretically!

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Silverliner182V
06/29/11 12:32:00 PM
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the best part was how he just ignored me completely.

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VintageGin
06/29/11 5:02:00 PM
#29:


Haha, nice

Did he get backstabbed immediately after teleporting that second time, or was that a different engy?

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GANON1025
06/29/11 5:06:00 PM
#30:


What's the key to have your character yell out 'spy'?

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/29/11 5:06:00 PM
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God damnit, F2P people. 3 Snipers and Spies on my team all the time. And then on the other team I kept getting full body shot by the Sydney Sleeper. Soooo full of rage.

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VintageGin
06/29/11 5:09:00 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
What's the key to have your character yell out 'spy'?

Z, X, and C bring up the voice command menus.

Off the top of my head,
Z-2 is Thanks!
X-2 is Spy!
C-1 is Help! (which I mostly use for spamming while standing on a point)

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/29/11 5:15:00 PM
#33:


The Valve Grenade Launcher -- Get it?



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VintageGin
06/29/11 6:38:00 PM
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Waiting for my ping to drop below 800 so I can rejoin a server.

Yes, 800. Hooray wireless.

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biolizardfan
06/29/11 7:28:00 PM
#35:


yay I can finally post

From: GANON1025 | #030
What's the key to have your character yell out 'spy'?


Yeah basically you wanna do the Z,X,C commands for the voices, you memorize the important ones over time (like Z2 thanks, Z3 go go go, X2 Spy, X5 need a dispenser)

But you can also bind "voicemenu X Y" to a key, where X is the column of voice commands (Z = 1, X = 2, C =3) and Y is the command # in that column. So for Spy: bind [key] "voicemenu 2 2"

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Red Shifter
06/29/11 7:31:00 PM
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C4 - call out your team for being bad

aka the one i use most

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VintageGin
06/29/11 8:44:00 PM
#37:


biolizardfan posted...
But you can also bind "voicemenu X Y" to a key, where X is the column of voice commands (Z = 1, X = 2, C =3) and Y is the command # in that column. So for Spy: bind [key] "voicemenu 2 2"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it starts with 0 when you bind voicemenu stuff.

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kurtfisto
06/29/11 8:52:00 PM
#38:


Also use X-1 for "Incoming!" and X-3 for "Sentry ahead!"

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VintageGin
06/30/11 12:46:00 AM
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whoa, this is pretty neat

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VintageGin
06/30/11 8:53:00 AM
#40:


So I'm kinda wondering if the demoknight instant crit is a bug or a feature. Probably a bug, but basically both the targe and the screen allow you to charge and crit with your melee if you swing at any point during the charge. I didn't realize this until yesterday when I had a demoknight effectively backstab me like this.

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VintageGin
06/30/11 2:57:00 PM
#41:




worms: still awesome

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dinobot19
06/30/11 3:57:00 PM
#42:


VintageGin posted...
So I'm kinda wondering if the demoknight instant crit is a bug or a feature. Probably a bug, but basically both the targe and the screen allow you to charge and crit with your melee if you swing at any point during the charge. I didn't realize this until yesterday when I had a demoknight effectively backstab me like this.

What do you think made wavedashing so great, apart from the movement?

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VintageGin
06/30/11 4:08:00 PM
#43:


I thought the movement was the entire point. I didn't know you could also kill instantly from anywhere in the charge!

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GANON1025
06/30/11 4:11:00 PM
#44:


So, anyone who is still F2P and wants to/intends to go premium: I just went Premium and the game is asking me to refer someone, and that person gets some special glasses. My thinking is, if you want to, when you go premium we will refer each other so we both get the special glasses.

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dinobot19
06/30/11 4:21:00 PM
#45:


VintageGin posted...
I thought the movement was the entire point. I didn't know you could also kill instantly from anywhere in the charge!

Why did Valve patch this, it makes no sense!

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VintageGin
06/30/11 4:27:00 PM
#46:


GANON1025 posted...
So, anyone who is still F2P and wants to/intends to go premium: I just went Premium and the game is asking me to refer someone, and that person gets some special glasses. My thinking is, if you want to, when you go premium we will refer each other so we both get the special glasses.

Does it actually let you wait to make the referral? I thought you had to make the referral as soon as you went premium?

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GANON1025
06/30/11 4:27:00 PM
#47:


I went premium over the weekend, and every time I go into the game it asks me to refer someone.

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WazzupGenius00
06/30/11 4:33:00 PM
#48:


WilyNumber13 plz
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biolizardfan
06/30/11 5:45:00 PM
#49:


refer me, I helped you remember?

steamID: foolmoron

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GANON1025
06/30/11 5:49:00 PM
#50:


I'm not going to refer some random person. I'm going to refer some random person, who can then refer me so we both get glasses!

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