LeonhartFour posted... Darn it, totally forgot to vote for the Analysis Crew now that Moltar's name has been brought up.
Yeah, how the heck did that not make the Top 50? It might be my third favorite thing about Contest season (and I have 50 favorite things about Contest season, so that's saying something)!
Ed Bellis posted... The early episodes of the Show were more than a little awkward. Ngamer and I didn't have much in the way of chemistry; I ended up keeping my silliness and sarcasm in check a lot of the time to go with the more 'professional' tone of the podcast. Towards the end of Season 1 we let our hair down a little bit more – the rotating guest hosts helped even out the bad chemistry between the two of us.
Yikes! I mean it's quite clear that you were always more comfortable on SB than The Show, but I never got the sense of it being a chemistry problem. I guess yo and myself have better chemistry, but I wouldn't call what we had bad... you toned down the wackiness a little versus your SB persona, sure, but I still thought you were very entertaining in your Show role.
In fact one of the complaints about S2 was that it lacked the balance of S1, by which I mean yo and I too often went with our friends from Stats and the Oracle as guests and some episodes lost their "casual appeal" as a result. Certainly never had to worry about that problem with Ed Bellis as co-host!
Ed Bellis posted... So after a few emailed exchanges with Smurf and Carvey – including one where Smurf accused me of being 'some cowboy' who tried to jump the gun when he went MIA for a while – UOTY 2010 was ready to go.
Smurf holding a weirdly personal grudge because he's still clearly bitter about something that happened seven years ago? You don't say!
Ed Bellis posted... Carvey brought all sorts of modern features to the season, like Google Docs spreadsheets; we had a UOTY-specific chat that would later become board8chat; Ngamer developed the abortion of an idea known as the UOTY Fantasy League.
WHOA there! The Fantasy League was and continues to be a fantastic idea- the only abortion was how I ran the league (ie by not doing anything) for the first month of 2010. Everything beyond that has been smooth sailing! Speaking of which, I need to make a wiki article for us...
Ed Bellis posted... Seeing some people cross that line from making fun of e-pop into outright pandering for it (looking at you, Yoblazer) was outright painful. I had Zea DQ himself just so he'd get Ngamer DQ'd and then threaten to do worse if I didn't DQ them both – just for a cheap laugh at my (and Ngamer's) expense. I just wanted the entire thing to end.
A most cruel jape, to be sure. Fortunately I have the utmost certainly that, in the end, Ed Bellis and Ngamer shall utter the last laugh.
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On the contrary, good sir. I am actually one of the most articulate writers one could encounter here, my only articulation-related problem is that I get TOO articulate, to the point where my sentences overcomplicate themselves and become too long and complex that when I later read over my work when I'm sober, I can't even understand it at first until several read-throughs, but that only happens when I have a decent enough memory to know what to look for. In cases when I have too little memory of what I've written, I generally either skim through or ignore it altogether due to evasion of any potential embarassment. My random eliminations are simple though. You could follow them as easily as anyone could and I think most of the fanbase can follow them pretty easily >_>
My main point though... I could be blackout drunk and type several paragraphs without a single typo, with maybe 1 or 2 minor mistakes of simply typing the wrong word hastily without initially knowing. The only difficulty you would have in understanding me would be if you had trouble putting the words together and interpretting them exactly the way I intended for them to be interpretted, which I admit is often very difficult even for me >_<
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From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #262 my only articulation-related problem is that I get TOO articulate, to the point where my sentences overcomplicate themselves
I hope the rest of the post was intentional to prove your point because that's exactly the impression I got reading it.
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Yes, the categories on the wiki have always bothered me as well. And we definitely need front page updates and a new B8wiki Discussion Topic. Ah well, someone's bound to help me do that stuff soon!
You're also right about the Oracle, the punishment for missing a match is way too harsh. I've been saying for years that we need an "Average Points" ranking that would be updated daily right along with the Total Points leaderboard, so people could follow along on whichever they preferred, but it hasn't happened yet.
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I feel with the two matches/day format, it's hard to keep up with Oracle. I have a busy weekend and poof, I'm done.
I would honestly say people should be able to put a default value in for missed matches. Even if it's just saying 50%/50%, and putting a cap on the points someone can get for not submitting a prediction.
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From: neonreaper | Posted: 7/5/2011 12:31:28 PM | #266 I would honestly say people should be able to put a default value in for missed matches. Even if it's just saying 50%/50%, and putting a cap on the points someone can get for not submitting a prediction.
I agree with this 100%.
I also was wondering about setting the rankings to Prediction Average rather than overall points with the caveat that you're not allowed to miss more than a very minimal number of matches (say one every 30-40 matches or so) to be included in the rankings. I realize you'd have to set the number of missed matches allowed really low to prevent the leaders from skipping hard-to-predict matches, but that way people who accidentally miss a single match aren't completely eliminated for their mistake. <.<
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I think the advantage should be to the people that post a % for every match, I'm basically suggesting that people can post predictions for everything in the current round (not just the current set of matches) but those predictions can only be 50/50. Something like that, anyway
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I'd switch 10 and 11. I never even knew Caelus had a topic series like that. >_> Everything else seems in the right place though I like Guru a little better than Oracle
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I think the advantage should be to the people that post a % for every match, I'm basically suggesting that people can post predictions for everything in the current round (not just the current set of matches) but those predictions can only be 50/50. Something like that, anyway
You can already submit your predictions for matches a few days in advance. For the early rounds it's not the entire round since there are so many matches. However, near the end of the contest when there is a shorter period between when you know who will be in a match and the match going up, you can submit a prediction for all known matches.
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You can already submit your predictions for matches a few days in advance. For the early rounds it's not the entire round since there are so many matches. However, near the end of the contest when there is a shorter period between when you know who will be in a match and the match going up, you can submit a prediction for all known matches.
I know, that's why I said "current round". I understand that allowing people to predict everything in one go puts a heavy burden on the data entry aspect of the project, which is why I would limit the predictions to 50/50 and add a penalty. I suggest people have to ask for it every round.
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Just found this topic and read the whole thing. Wanted to say well done to Ayvuir for putting this together, and Bellis for doing all the write-ups. Thought I'd clear one thing up also, since noone else has done:
"42. Golden Sigil: I have no idea what this is."
Was a writing project LiselTestify did a few years back where he got people to come up with their own characters, then crafted this whole Indiana Jones-style story around them, with votes at the end of each chapter - kinda like a CYOA almost, but not just the person who created the character could vote. There were loads of these kind of topics around at the time, but this one was distinguished by the fact that Lisel is a genuinely fantastic writer who managed to craft a very entertaining story around the decisions made. Even without any user participation I'm pretty sure it would've been a very popular project. Also notable for coming to a satisfying conclusion, unlike most of those kind of projects. He tried to do another one with a mafia, but it wasn't as popular for some reason and he stopped partway through due to inactivity.
So yeah, there you go, as if you care! :p
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I agree that it's too easy to miss a match, especially with 2 matches per day - that definitely rejuvenated the contest, but hurt the Oracle IMO. But it's not a very easy problem to solve. Giving average points means that about half the people are worse off for making a prediction than not, which seems unfair. I was never able to think of a good way to handle it that made sense and was fair, other than trying to get people to make their predictions in advance.
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I have thought about that before, but it's pretty random - sometimes ihatethisCPU (or someone else) makes a totally insane prediction, so it's equivalent to not getting anything. Other times it's not as bad.
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If we just code up an Average Points Per Match ranking and link it off the front page I think people would be much more inspired to maintain their good rank there even after missing a match, as I've said!
Or I guess if the headers were just clickable on the main table so you could resort by that, it would work fine as well.
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neonreaper posted... I'd switch 10 and 11. I never even knew Caelus had a topic series like that. >_> Everything else seems in the right place though I like Guru a little better than Oracle
Caelus projects is one of the main reasons I became a regular on this board. Chamber of Time caught my attention when I first stopped here and there was no way I was leaving until it was finished.
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From: Kaxon | #283 I have thought about that before, but it's pretty random - sometimes ihatethisCPU (or someone else) makes a totally insane prediction, so it's equivalent to not getting anything. Other times it's not as bad.
In PPC, we had the same sort of issue with the weird predictors - Wigs decided to use the same percentage for every single result for every match. We ended up compromising by asking Wigs if he was ok with his predictions being ignored when giving make-up points.
You could probably pull off something similar in the Oracle - make it so that, when assigning those make-up points, only serious predictors count. You would, of course, have to ask the "non-serious" predictors and the ones who aim for top 5 picks like red sox and Ringworm if they'd be ok with that. You would probably also want to ignore predictions from people who aren't in the running - if someone starts predicting halfway through the contest and does a miserable job, it's not like they have a chance to catch up anyway.
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