Board 8 > I thought the Cold War ended 31 years ago?

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Safer_777
02/21/22 4:05:38 PM
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I find it so sad. So many years we thought all this was in the past but apparently no. The Bad Russian trope seems to be real. Also about the NATO. I live in Greece myself so we are members of this. But I was always against this since I thought of it a relic of another era. Guess I was wrong!

Also so sad that all countries say this is bad but well we will not send soldiers to fight.Better hope Ukraine pulls it! Then why are in NATO? Wasn't it made to stop Soviet Russia? Isn't it a big chance not to show that it can do something? And don't tell me what you want war? No I don't want. But I don't want to be part of an Alliance that is made for a single reason and when there is something to act they say well no. This is the reason the alliance was made!

Yeah all these are simplistic true. But man in the end it seems if you are willing to fight,really willing, almost all the others are afraid to fight so you come on top.

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NFUN
02/21/22 4:13:37 PM
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ukraine isnt in nato. thats like the entire point of this entire thing

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Yesmar_
02/21/22 4:17:59 PM
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If Russia wants Eastern European nations in its sphere of influence, maybe it shouldn't have treated them as essentially colonies during the Cold War.

Until Russia sees this shift towards the West as a natural result of its previous actions instead of some kind of Western conspiracy they are never going to have the results that they want.

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Peace___Frog
02/21/22 4:22:12 PM
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Putin is nostalgic for Russia's territory from then, hence...

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Xeybozn
02/21/22 4:27:16 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQKzesTq0Wo

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Nanis23
02/21/22 4:27:58 PM
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The cold war never ended

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red13n
02/21/22 4:28:13 PM
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Xeybozn posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQKzesTq0Wo

I was here to post this.

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Crescent-Moon
02/21/22 4:33:10 PM
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The public face of the cold war did, for the most part.

The Cold War itself never has.

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Xiahou Shake
02/21/22 6:32:39 PM
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It's always cold in Siberia

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BlueCrystalTear
02/21/22 7:31:28 PM
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After the Berlin Wall fell and all hell broke loose in Europe, the USSR started to struggle with its public image. All the SSRs were declaring independence, making it so the Russian army had no reason to be in Afghanistan. This made that war look even more egregious to everyone. With a huge loss of control and its allies all having revolutions, the Soviets had to do something that had never been done before: They faked a revolution to save face.

The Cold War thus never ended because of the plan - probably Putin's - to transfer power peacefully. Yeltsin was the initial face of the "new CIS" or w/e but Putin spent the time knowing he'd become Premier someday and get to do whatever he wanted, just like the others before him.

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foolm0r0n
02/21/22 8:07:51 PM
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Safer_777 posted...
But man in the end it seems if you are willing to fight,really willing, almost all the others are afraid to fight so you come on top.
How is Russia coming on top? They are spending insane resources pushing a little border here and there. It's a disaster for their economy and their global image. But hey at least now they have a bit more heavily disputed farmland.

Wars are fought on culture nowadays. That's the legacy of the cold war. And Russia is losing hard. China and US are doing a bit better but still losing hard.

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redrocket
02/21/22 8:39:09 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
How is Russia coming on top? They are spending insane resources pushing a little border here and there. It's a disaster for their economy and their global image. But hey at least now they have a bit more heavily disputed farmland.

Wars are fought on culture nowadays. That's the legacy of the cold war. And Russia is losing hard. China and US are doing a bit better but still losing hard.

So whos winning?

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foolm0r0n
02/21/22 10:42:07 PM
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redrocket posted...
So whos winning?
Most any state who isn't directly caught in the wars. Mexico, Denmark, Nigeria, Vietnam are some random examples that seem solid.

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imthestuntman
02/21/22 10:47:01 PM
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By what definition is China losing....?

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foolm0r0n
02/22/22 4:49:20 PM
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imthestuntman posted...
By what definition is China losing....?
Economy and culture

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