Current Events > Is not wanting to sleep with or date a trans-person a preference or transphobic?

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ChrisTaka 06/22/21 11:53:35 PM #51:	Preference --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? thinking emoji <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:955331559] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Preference </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/22/21 11:53:39 PM #52:	ROOTFayth posted... I see very little hatred of gays and trans on this board, certainly using the word hatred way too lightly here, hate is a very strong feeling It is and, millions, if not billions of human beings hate LGBT people. Half of the elected officials in America openly state their disgust toward them and seek to dehumanize them. What but hatred can move someone to support leaders that seek to do that? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955331561] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>ROOTFayth posted... </cite> <quote>I see very little hatred of gays and trans on this board, certainly using the word hatred way too lightly here, hate is a very strong feeling</quote>It is and, millions, if not billions of human beings hate LGBT people. Half of the elected officials in America openly state their disgust toward them and seek to dehumanize them. What but hatred can move someone to support leaders that seek to do that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/22/21 11:55:04 PM #53:	hockeybub89 posted... It is and, millions, if not billions of human beings hate LGBT people. Half of the elected officials in America openly state their disgust toward them and seek to dehumanize them. most of this board is left leaning though <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:955331602] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>It is and, millions, if not billions of human beings hate LGBT people. Half of the elected officials in America openly state their disgust toward them and seek to dehumanize them.</quote>most of this board is left leaning though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/22/21 11:57:19 PM #54:	hockeybub89 posted... My point is I hate when people talk about preferences and sexual orientation in the same breath. Preferences do not need to be respected. If anyone's opinion towards the LGBT community is affected by people shitting on someone's preferences, then they are bigots that were never going to be on their side. It's apples and oranges. Okay, would you rather I say my sexual orientation is straight and therefore the vast majority of transwomen don't qualify? Is that better? I don't think so. Also, what is your sexual orientation? Are you sexually active? Because most straight sexually active males won't date transgender women. Whether anyone likes it or not, that is a fact. This is not hate, this is not discounting someone's gender, this is about sexual attraction, which can not be controlled. Or can sexual attraction being inherent only be brought up when it benefits the LGBTQ community? --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise, Bloodborne <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955331690] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>My point is I hate when people talk about preferences and sexual orientation in the same breath. Preferences do not need to be respected. If anyone's opinion towards the LGBT community is affected by people shitting on someone's preferences, then they are bigots that were never going to be on their side. It's apples and oranges.</quote>Okay, would you rather I say my sexual orientation is straight and therefore the vast majority of transwomen don't qualify? Is that better? I don't think so. Also, what is your sexual orientation? Are you sexually active? Because most straight sexually active males won't date transgender women. Whether anyone likes it or not, that is a fact. This is not hate, this is not discounting someone's gender, this is about sexual attraction, which can not be controlled. Or can sexual attraction being inherent only be brought up when it benefits the LGBTQ community? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 06/22/21 11:59:10 PM #55:	ROOTFayth posted... what if you want to have sex but upon touching their post op genitals you dont like the feeling of it and thus reject them? This is kind of where I'm at. I've seen a lot of pictures of post op genitals and while the surgeons do an amazing job, there is still a visible difference between surgically altered one and women born with one. So I really don't get the argument that it's just accept it or it's transphobic. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:955331749] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>ROOTFayth posted... </cite> <quote>what if you want to have sex but upon touching their post op genitals you dont like the feeling of it and thus reject them?</quote>This is kind of where I'm at. I've seen a lot of pictures of post op genitals and while the surgeons do an amazing job, there is still a visible difference between surgically altered one and women born with one. So I really don't get the argument that it's just accept it or it's transphobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 06/22/21 11:59:14 PM #56:	Dakimakura posted... It is transphobic if you find the person attractive enough to want to have sex with them without knowledge that they are transgender. Then with knowledge that they are transgender don't want to have sex with them. But still you have the right to have sex with and deny sex to any person you want, so really it is fine just don't be a shithead about it. You could simply tell them that you find them attractive, but you are just not mentally capable of going any further with things at this time. If you just don't find the person attractive then it is a preference thing. I wouldn't call that transphobic. People are most often attracted to certain genitalia. A dude may wanna stick his thing in a vagina so her having a penis could be a deal breaker. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:955331752] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite> <quote>It is transphobic if you find the person attractive enough to want to have sex with them without knowledge that they are transgender. Then with knowledge that they are transgender don't want to have sex with them. But still you have the right to have sex with and deny sex to any person you want, so really it is fine just don't be a shithead about it. You could simply tell them that you find them attractive, but you are just not mentally capable of going any further with things at this time. If you just don't find the person attractive then it is a preference thing.</quote>I wouldn't call that transphobic. People are most often attracted to certain genitalia. A dude may wanna stick his thing in a vagina so her having a penis could be a deal breaker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/23/21 12:00:24 AM #57:	hockeybub89 posted... It is and, millions, if not billions of human beings hate LGBT people. Half of the elected officials in America openly state their disgust toward them and seek to dehumanize them. What but hatred can move someone to support leaders that seek to do that? But I hate those leaders. I am very liberal and I support the LGBTQ community with my votes, with my money, with my marches, with my friends. But fuck it, none of that means anything and I am a bigot because I am not into transwomen. Give me a fucking break. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise, Bloodborne <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955331789] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>It is and, millions, if not billions of human beings hate LGBT people. Half of the elected officials in America openly state their disgust toward them and seek to dehumanize them. What but hatred can move someone to support leaders that seek to do that?</quote>But I hate those leaders. I am very liberal and I support the LGBTQ community with my votes, with my money, with my marches, with my friends. But fuck it, none of that means anything and I am a bigot because I am not into transwomen. Give me a fucking break. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 06/23/21 12:02:10 AM #58:	How many trans women have undergone sexual reassignment surgery? Plus it sucks for a lot of trans women that they had to transition late and are thus not attractive in the eyes of most men. But if we're talking about a dude who won't date a gorgeous peen-free transwoman that he has chemistry with... That's more of a discussion. --- Thank you for being a friend <3 <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:955331854] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>How many trans women have undergone sexual reassignment surgery? Plus it sucks for a lot of trans women that they had to transition late and are thus not attractive in the eyes of most men. But if we're talking about a dude who won't date a gorgeous peen-free transwoman that he has chemistry with... That's more of a discussion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 06/23/21 12:03:00 AM #59:	I think having genital preference is a perfectly valid reason not to sleep with someone. But having the blanket statement of not dating any trans person at all is pretty transphobic. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:955331884] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>I think having genital preference is a perfectly valid reason not to sleep with someone. But having the blanket statement of not dating any trans person at all is pretty transphobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/23/21 12:04:02 AM #60:	BettyWhite posted... How many trans women have undergone sexual reassignment surgery? Plus it sucks for a lot of trans women that they had to transition late and are thus not attractive in the eyes of most men. But if we're talking about a dude who won't date a gorgeous peen-free transwoman that he has chemistry with... That's more of a discussion. I have stated that I would if the conditions of your last paragraph are met. But I don't know what the surgery part is like. I might have an issue, I might not. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise, Bloodborne <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955331923] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>BettyWhite posted... </cite> <quote>How many trans women have undergone sexual reassignment surgery? Plus it sucks for a lot of trans women that they had to transition late and are thus not attractive in the eyes of most men. But if we're talking about a dude who won't date a gorgeous peen-free transwoman that he has chemistry with... That's more of a discussion.</quote>I have stated that I would if the conditions of your last paragraph are met. But I don't know what the surgery part is like. I might have an issue, I might not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 06/23/21 12:05:02 AM #61:	Itd be rape otherwise? --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:955331955] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Itd be rape otherwise? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 06/23/21 12:05:58 AM #62:	Maybe. I think a lot of our generation will views trans people the way the generation before viewed gay people and the generation before that black people. A lot of reluctant acceptance and 'tolerance', nothing close to outright hatred, but nothing close to fully embracing and supporting either. And then in twenty years those people may look very old fashioned --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:955331981] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Maybe. I think a lot of our generation will views trans people the way the generation before viewed gay people and the generation before that black people. A lot of reluctant acceptance and 'tolerance', nothing close to outright hatred, but nothing close to fully embracing and supporting either. And then in twenty years those people may look very old fashioned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/23/21 12:07:52 AM #63:	haloiscoolisbak posted... Maybe. I think a lot of our generation will views trans people the way the generation before viewed gay people and the generation before that black people. A lot of reluctant acceptance and 'tolerance', nothing close to outright hatred, but nothing close to fully embracing and supporting either. And then in twenty years those people may look very old fashioned But I feel most here do embrace and truly support it. The question is about dating and sex. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise, Bloodborne <cite>bsp77 posted [p:955332049] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>haloiscoolisbak posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe. I think a lot of our generation will views trans people the way the generation before viewed gay people and the generation before that black people. A lot of reluctant acceptance and 'tolerance', nothing close to outright hatred, but nothing close to fully embracing and supporting either. And then in twenty years those people may look very old fashioned</quote>But I feel most here do embrace and truly support it. The question is about dating and sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 06/23/21 12:07:53 AM #64:	LeoRavus posted... I wouldn't call that transphobic. People are most often attracted to certain genitalia. A dude may wanna stick his thing in a vagina so her having a penis could be a deal breaker. Yes, I meant fully transitioned. I would say if they are pre-op then it is obviously a preference thing. --- https://imgur.com/ca2qBa1 ^My wife <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:955332051] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't call that transphobic. People are most often attracted to certain genitalia. A dude may wanna stick his thing in a vagina so her having a penis could be a deal breaker.</quote> Yes, I meant fully transitioned. I would say if they are pre-op then it is obviously a preference thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 06/23/21 12:10:35 AM #65:	bsp77 posted... I have stated that I would if the conditions of your last paragraph are met. But I don't know what the surgery part is like. I might have an issue, I might not. Like.. A vagina opens and welcomes a peen when you warm her up.. But a post-op vag seems like it would just be an unpleasant death grip that struggles to accommodate penetration. I mean, I've watched it in porn even and that's exactly what it looks like as well. But if she's really special that's the kind of thing you can get over. I dunno. --- Thank you for being a friend <3 <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:955332147] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>I have stated that I would if the conditions of your last paragraph are met. But I don't know what the surgery part is like. I might have an issue, I might not.</quote> Like.. A vagina opens and welcomes a peen when you warm her up.. But a post-op vag seems like it would just be an unpleasant death grip that struggles to accommodate penetration. I mean, I've watched it in porn even and that's exactly what it looks like as well. But if she's really special that's the kind of thing you can get over. I dunno. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 06/23/21 12:10:46 AM #66:	That poll tho --- 20 seconds is all it takes! <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:955332155] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>That poll tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/23/21 12:11:49 AM #67:	Dakimakura posted... Yes, I meant fully transitioned. I would say if they are pre-op then it is obviously a preference thing. according to some other users here, it is not, it is just transphobia <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:955332178] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, I meant fully transitioned. I would say if they are pre-op then it is obviously a preference thing.</quote>according to some other users here, it is not, it is just transphobia </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gurifisu 06/23/21 12:15:48 AM #69:	Dakimakura posted... Yes, I meant fully transitioned. I would say if they are pre-op then it is obviously a preference thing. Even still, I wouldn't scrutinize someone that didn't want to get involved with a surgically implanted Vaginas too heavily. There's guys out there that don't want anything to do with women that get ass or breast enhancements. No shame in a man who prefers natural breasts/asses. --- Enter the baller zone: http://error1355.com/ce/Gurifisu.html <cite>Gurifisu posted [p:955332277] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Dakimakura posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, I meant fully transitioned. I would say if they are pre-op then it is obviously a preference thing.</quote>Even still, I wouldn't scrutinize someone that didn't want to get involved with a surgically implanted Vaginas too heavily. There's guys out there that don't want anything to do with women that get ass or breast enhancements. No shame in a man who prefers natural breasts/asses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/23/21 12:23:24 AM #70:	ROOTFayth posted... according to some other users here, it is not, it is just transphobia Actually, it's a preference that is transphobic. No need for an either/or --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955332487] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>ROOTFayth posted... </cite> <quote>according to some other users here, it is not, it is just transphobia</quote>Actually, it's a preference that is transphobic. No need for an either/or </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/23/21 12:24:16 AM #71:	Gurifisu posted... Even still, I wouldn't scrutinize someone that didn't want to get involved with a surgically implanted Vaginas too heavily. There's guys out there that don't want anything to do with women that get ass or breast enhancements. No shame in a man who prefers natural breasts/asses. Have they met every woman with fake breasts? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955332515] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Gurifisu posted... </cite> <quote>Even still, I wouldn't scrutinize someone that didn't want to get involved with a surgically implanted Vaginas too heavily. There's guys out there that don't want anything to do with women that get ass or breast enhancements. No shame in a man who prefers natural breasts/asses.</quote>Have they met every woman with fake breasts? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/23/21 12:24:47 AM #72:	hockeybub89 posted... Actually, it's a preference that is transphobic. No need for an either/or Im not sure I understand what you mean <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:955332527] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually, it's a preference that is transphobic. No need for an either/or</quote>Im not sure I understand what you mean </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/23/21 12:27:08 AM #73:	bsp77 posted... But I hate those leaders. I am very liberal and I support the LGBTQ community with my votes, with my money, with my marches, with my friends. But fuck it, none of that means anything and I am a bigot because I am not into transwomen. Give me a fucking break. You're taking it to personally. I'm not singling you out just because I'm quoting off your posts. ROOTFayth posted... Im not sure I understand what you mean The OP asked whether it is a preference or transphobia. The answer is "Both" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:955332597] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>But I hate those leaders. I am very liberal and I support the LGBTQ community with my votes, with my money, with my marches, with my friends. But fuck it, none of that means anything and I am a bigot because I am not into transwomen. Give me a fucking break.</quote>You're taking it to personally. I'm not singling you out just because I'm quoting off your posts. ROOTFayth posted... </cite> <quote>Im not sure I understand what you mean</quote>The OP asked whether it is a preference or transphobia. The answer is "Both" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gurifisu 06/23/21 12:27:38 AM #74:	hockeybub89 posted... Have they met every woman with fake breasts? Do they need too? You really gonna say guys aren't allowed to dislike breast implants? --- Enter the baller zone: http://error1355.com/ce/Gurifisu.html <cite>Gurifisu posted [p:955332611] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Have they met every woman with fake breasts?</quote>Do they need too? You really gonna say guys aren't allowed to dislike breast implants? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROOTFayth 06/23/21 12:29:06 AM #76:	hockeybub89 posted... The OP asked whether it is a preference or transphobia. The answer is "Both" what Im understanding is that refusing to date a pre op transgender would be rooted in transphobia, is that it? <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:955332650] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote> The OP asked whether it is a preference or transphobia. The answer is "Both"</quote>what Im understanding is that refusing to date a pre op transgender would be rooted in transphobia, is that it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 06/23/21 12:29:51 AM #77:	The poll speaks for itself, goodnight beautiful people. --- 20 seconds is all it takes! <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:955332667] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>The poll speaks for itself, goodnight beautiful people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
im not 13 06/23/21 12:33:36 AM #78:	How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to hating them? I swear people make up new ** every day --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m510t9eNw71r2yd8o.jpg <cite>im not 13 posted [p:955332745] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to hating them? I swear people make up new ** every day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 06/23/21 12:37:52 AM #79:	im not 13 posted... How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to hating them? I swear people make up new ** every day Look at the way women talk about short dudes online And the way guys talk about fat chicks online. I think gleeful, enthusiastic dismissal as a dating option can fall close to hatred. Or at least be interpreted as hostility by the other party --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:955332851] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>im not 13 posted... </cite> <quote>How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to hating them? I swear people make up new ** every day</quote> Look at the way women talk about short dudes online And the way guys talk about fat chicks online. I think gleeful, enthusiastic dismissal as a dating option can fall close to hatred. Or at least be interpreted as hostility by the other party </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/23/21 12:41:34 AM #80:	haloiscoolisbak posted... Look at the way women talk about short dudes online And the way guys talk about fat chicks online. I think gleeful, enthusiastic dismissal as a dating option can fall close to hatred. Or at least be interpreted as hostility by the other party I think obese chicks look disgusting in general and would certainly not entertain the idea of dating one, I dont hate them though, no issue being friend with them <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:955332943] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>haloiscoolisbak posted... </cite> <quote>Look at the way women talk about short dudes online And the way guys talk about fat chicks online. I think gleeful, enthusiastic dismissal as a dating option can fall close to hatred. Or at least be interpreted as hostility by the other party</quote>I think obese chicks look disgusting in general and would certainly not entertain the idea of dating one, I dont hate them though, no issue being friend with them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy 06/23/21 12:43:02 AM #81:	people's feelings get hurt when you don't want to sleep with them --- damn mods sure are really putting on some overtime tonight huh Then by that logic, real women are pixels. -Kisai <cite>catboy posted [p:955332979] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>people's feelings get hurt when you don't want to sleep with them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROOTFayth 06/23/21 12:44:25 AM #82:	catboy posted... people's feelings get hurt when you don't want to sleep with them bah, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger <cite>ROOTFayth posted [p:955333010] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>catboy posted... </cite> <quote>people's feelings get hurt when you don't want to sleep with them</quote>bah, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 06/23/21 1:11:19 AM #83:	im not 13 posted... How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to hating them? I know right? Some people dont want to sleep with fat people, short people, old people but that doesnt mean they are Cacomorphobic, Achondroplasiaphobic, or Gerontophobic. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:955333576] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>im not 13 posted... </cite> <quote>How does not wanting to sleep with someone equate to hating them?</quote>I know right? Some people dont want to sleep with fat people, short people, old people but that doesnt mean they are Cacomorphobic, Achondroplasiaphobic, or Gerontophobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 06/23/21 1:14:26 AM #84:	JustMyOpinion posted... Inb4 gunpla saying disgusting things about the other side and the usual suspects backing her. And if you call them out on their behaviour the mods delete your messages. This is just fascinating. She can call you a bigot and transphobe, but if you call her a bigot and cisphobe the mods delete your post but leave hers alone. How about some mods weigh in on this? @Error1355 ? --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:955333648] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted... </cite> <quote>Inb4 gunpla saying disgusting things about the other side and the usual suspects backing her.</quote> And if you call them out on their behaviour the mods delete your messages. This is just fascinating. She can call you a bigot and transphobe, but if you call her a bigot and cisphobe the mods delete your post but leave hers alone. How about some mods weigh in on this? @Error1355 ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 06/23/21 1:19:58 AM #85:	I think it is a little transphobic to say that you would never date someone who is trans. Like, let's say you never knew they were trans and fell in love... would you just not be with them because they are trans? Does that not speak to a little transphobia? Let me put it a bit different. Say you fell head over heels for someone, fell in love. You then find out they have a fake leg. If someone left that person because of that, would that make them bigoted against handicapped people? --- https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:955333758] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>I think it is a little transphobic to say that you would never date someone who is trans. Like, let's say you never knew they were trans and fell in love... would you just not be with them because they are trans? Does that not speak to a little transphobia? Let me put it a bit different. Say you fell head over heels for someone, fell in love. You then find out they have a fake leg. If someone left that person because of that, would that make them bigoted against handicapped people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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im not 13 06/23/21 1:35:39 AM #87:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I think it is a little transphobic to say that you would never date someone who is trans. Like, let's say you never knew they were trans and fell in love... would you just not be with them because they are trans? Does that not speak to a little transphobia? Let me put it a bit different. Say you fell head over heels for someone, fell in love. You then find out they have a fake leg. If someone left that person because of that, would that make them bigoted against handicapped people? Bad example People are attracted to genetaila and I always think its swept under the rug during these discussions No matter how you explain or word it, I am not attracted to a penis and I never will be. That doesn't mean I hate anyone that has one... --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m510t9eNw71r2yd8o.jpg <cite>im not 13 posted [p:955334062] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>I think it is a little transphobic to say that you would never date someone who is trans. Like, let's say you never knew they were trans and fell in love... would you just not be with them because they are trans? Does that not speak to a little transphobia? Let me put it a bit different. Say you fell head over heels for someone, fell in love. You then find out they have a fake leg. If someone left that person because of that, would that make them bigoted against handicapped people?</quote> Bad example People are attracted to genetaila and I always think its swept under the rug during these discussions No matter how you explain or word it, I am not attracted to a penis and I never will be. That doesn't mean I hate anyone that has one... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 06/23/21 1:36:20 AM #88:	Why is it about sex anyway? A transwoman will have certain things different. Voice, physique, genitals unless operated. Then of course she can't have children and in some places in the world isn't even legally a woman which could potentially be detrimental to your marriage if you end up marrying her. There's differences and complications is what I'm saying. They don't have to matter to you but if they do it's not necessarily transphobia. You should be entitled to say 'I prefer X to the exclusion of all else'. You should not be shamed for it. Why are you shaming people for loving what/who they love? --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:955334079] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Why is it about sex anyway? A transwoman will have certain things different. Voice, physique, genitals unless operated. Then of course she can't have children and in some places in the world isn't even legally a woman which could potentially be detrimental to your marriage if you end up marrying her. There's differences and complications is what I'm saying. They don't have to matter to you but if they do it's not necessarily transphobia. You should be entitled to say 'I prefer X to the exclusion of all else'. You should not be shamed for it. Why are you shaming people for loving what/who they love? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 06/23/21 1:36:31 AM #89:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I think it is a little transphobic to say that you would never date someone who is trans. Like, let's say you never knew they were trans and fell in love... would you just not be with them because they are trans? Does that not speak to a little transphobia? Let me put it a bit different. Say you fell head over heels for someone, fell in love. You then find out they have a fake leg. If someone left that person because of that, would that make them bigoted against handicapped people? I dont think I could ever mistake a transwoman as a cis woman there are some pretty covincing ones out there but if I knew this person over a decent amount of time I think I would eventually catch on. The male skeletal structure never changes with hormones and theres certain features that are a dead give away. But even assuming we fall for this and use the fake leg example. That one is easy for me because I thats another preference I think I wouldnt be able to accept. Again I am having a hard time believing I wouldnt notice a fake leg but still assuming they kept it well hidden I would still be disturbed by it. This doesnt mean I hate handicapped people but I am entitled to my preferences and certain things are just a turn off, penis being one of them. I dont choose what makes my genitals tingle. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:955334083] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... </cite> <quote>I think it is a little transphobic to say that you would never date someone who is trans. Like, let's say you never knew they were trans and fell in love... would you just not be with them because they are trans? Does that not speak to a little transphobia? Let me put it a bit different. Say you fell head over heels for someone, fell in love. You then find out they have a fake leg. If someone left that person because of that, would that make them bigoted against handicapped people?</quote>I dont think I could ever mistake a transwoman as a cis woman there are some pretty covincing ones out there but if I knew this person over a decent amount of time I think I would eventually catch on. The male skeletal structure never changes with hormones and theres certain features that are a dead give away. But even assuming we fall for this and use the fake leg example. That one is easy for me because I thats another preference I think I wouldnt be able to accept. Again I am having a hard time believing I wouldnt notice a fake leg but still assuming they kept it well hidden I would still be disturbed by it. This doesnt mean I hate handicapped people but I am entitled to my preferences and certain things are just a turn off, penis being one of them. I dont choose what makes my genitals tingle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teh_Dr_Phil 06/23/21 1:39:47 AM #90:	Kakapo posted... Rent free. hesnotwrong.jpeg --- Yep. <cite>Teh_Dr_Phil posted [p:955334144] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Kakapo posted... </cite> <quote>Rent free.</quote>hesnotwrong.jpeg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 06/23/21 1:47:45 AM #91:	Preference. Nothing wrong with it. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/PmX8smn https://imgur.com/mwTy0iF https://imgur.com/FCER80e <cite>Middle hope posted [p:955334272] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Preference. Nothing wrong with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/23/21 1:48:13 AM #92:	Ah, you're already on to the "I could 100% pick out a trans woman" step of this discussion. As post 70 said already, it's a preference, but also transphobic. Not an either/ or, and making it that way is simply a false dichotomy. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:955334276] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Ah, you're already on to the "I could 100% pick out a trans woman" step of this discussion. As post 70 said already, it's a preference, but also transphobic. Not an either/ or, and making it that way is simply a false dichotomy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/23/21 1:58:47 AM #93:	Middle hope posted... Preference. Nothing wrong with it. It's my preference that when I go out in public, no cis men interact with me whatsoever. Nobody gets hurt by this preference. They just, you know. Make me uncomfortable when they exist near me. They need to back off and leave me alone, it's my valid feelings and I'm not gonna let any of you tell me I'm wrong. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:955334475] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>Preference. Nothing wrong with it.</quote>It's my preference that when I go out in public, no cis men interact with me whatsoever. Nobody gets hurt by this preference. They just, you know. Make me uncomfortable when they exist near me. They need to back off and leave me alone, it's my valid feelings and I'm not gonna let any of you tell me I'm wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 06/23/21 2:06:09 AM #94:	we know --- Six <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:955334615] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>we know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
im not 13 06/23/21 2:08:38 AM #95:	gunplagirl posted... It's my preference that when I go out in public, no cis men interact with me whatsoever. Nobody gets hurt by this preference. They just, you know. Make me uncomfortable when they exist near me. They need to back off and leave me alone, it's my valid feelings and I'm not gonna let any of you tell me I'm wrong. I'm finding it very hard to understand what you are referencing Since when does sexual attraction have to do with a general interaction with someone? You do a terrible job of getting a point across, in my opinion. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m510t9eNw71r2yd8o.jpg <cite>im not 13 posted [p:955334658] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>It's my preference that when I go out in public, no cis men interact with me whatsoever. Nobody gets hurt by this preference. They just, you know. Make me uncomfortable when they exist near me. They need to back off and leave me alone, it's my valid feelings and I'm not gonna let any of you tell me I'm wrong.</quote> I'm finding it very hard to understand what you are referencing Since when does sexual attraction have to do with a general interaction with someone? You do a terrible job of getting a point across, in my opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/23/21 2:30:27 AM #96:	viewmaster_pi posted... we know Aw baby, you missed me that much? Even though I told you that I'll always be with you wherever you go because I'm already the voice inside your head? im not 13 posted... I'm finding it very hard to understand what you are referencing Since when does sexual attraction have to do with a general interaction with someone? You do a terrible job of getting a point across, in my opinion. Excuse me, did you just interact with me when you know I dislike it? It's a boundary thing. Step off. It's just my preference that you never do that again, thanks. :) /Sarcasm Do you get it now, or do you need me to explain nice and slow, breaking it all down? --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:955335011] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>we know</quote>Aw baby, you missed me that much? Even though I told you that I'll always be with you wherever you go because I'm already the voice inside your head? im not 13 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm finding it very hard to understand what you are referencing Since when does sexual attraction have to do with a general interaction with someone? You do a terrible job of getting a point across, in my opinion.</quote>Excuse me, did you just interact with me when you know I dislike it? It's a boundary thing. Step off. It's just my preference that you never do that again, thanks. :) /Sarcasm Do you get it now, or do you need me to explain nice and slow, breaking it all down? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toyota 06/23/21 2:33:09 AM #97:	tbh i dont think we have the right medical technology for operations. i know they can do them but from what i read, it just doesnt seem right at all and i dont mean that to be offensive at all. imo trans people are better off staying pre-op. at least for now until medical technology gets better. that said id totally be up for sleeping with one or dating one but its the stigma behind it that kind of freaks me out. and i dont think i would really want to be doing anything to their dick though <cite>toyota posted [p:955335060] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>tbh i dont think we have the right medical technology for operations. i know they can do them but from what i read, it just doesnt seem right at all and i dont mean that to be offensive at all. imo trans people are better off staying pre-op. at least for now until medical technology gets better. that said id totally be up for sleeping with one or dating one but its the stigma behind it that kind of freaks me out. and i dont think i would really want to be doing anything to their dick though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy 06/23/21 2:35:33 AM #98:	gunpla can I interact with you --- damn mods sure are really putting on some overtime tonight huh Then by that logic, real women are pixels. -Kisai <cite>catboy posted [p:955335088] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>gunpla can I interact with you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/23/21 2:39:53 AM #99:	toyota posted... tbh i dont think we have the right medical technology for operations. i know they can do them but from what i read, it just doesnt seem right at all and i dont mean that to be offensive at all. imo trans people are better off staying pre-op. at least for now until medical technology gets better. that said id totally be up for sleeping with one or dating one but its the stigma behind it that kind of freaks me out. and i dont think i would really want to be doing anything to their dick though Toyota, shut up. Please. Plenty of girls are happy with the results they have, and the surgery technology and procedures themselves continue to improve over time. catboy posted... gunpla can I interact with you :l paradox intensifies --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:955335148] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>toyota posted... </cite> <quote>tbh i dont think we have the right medical technology for operations. i know they can do them but from what i read, it just doesnt seem right at all and i dont mean that to be offensive at all. imo trans people are better off staying pre-op. at least for now until medical technology gets better. that said id totally be up for sleeping with one or dating one but its the stigma behind it that kind of freaks me out. and i dont think i would really want to be doing anything to their dick though</quote>Toyota, shut up. Please. Plenty of girls are happy with the results they have, and the surgery technology and procedures themselves continue to improve over time. catboy posted... </cite> <quote>gunpla can I interact with you</quote>:l paradox intensifies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/23/21 2:39:59 AM #100:	Depends on the reasoning. If it's "She's actually a man", even if fully transitioned, then yeah that would be transphobic. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:955335155] in Is not wan... [t:79528680]...</cite> <quote>Depends on the reasoning. If it's "She's actually a man", even if fully transitioned, then yeah that would be transphobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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