Current Events > Doom Eternal feels like a straight downgrade to 2016.

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Like I played them backwards and 2016 is supposed to be the current gen game.

Eternal seriously feels and damn near looks like an original Xbox game.

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I liked both.

A lot more platforming in Eternal.

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It is, different engine

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They went with a more cartoony look for Eternal and I for one liked it better
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What? I'm a bit mixed on Eternal but I think it looks absolutely gorgeous.

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no

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I thought eternal looked real rad, just the heavy lean into combat puzzles wasnt exactly what I wanted from a sequel.

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Nonsense

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Darmik posted...

What? I'm a bit mixed on Eternal but I think it looks absolutely gorgeous.

It's less the graphics and more the design.

Like I enjoyed how 2016 had you find weapons organically.

Now they're all just floating in midair in the middle of the path.

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DrizztLink posted...

It's less the graphics and more the design.

Like I enjoyed how 2016 had you find weapons organically.

Now they're all just floating in midair in the middle of the path.

yeah dood they just left a pistol next to doom guys coffin just cuz

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refmon posted...

yeah dood they just left a pistol next to doom guys coffin just cuz

Other than that, I made fun of that one.

I'm playing further now and I was uncharitable towards the graphics quality.

It's at least as good as 2016, it's just the atmosphere seems more cartoony for lack of a better word.

And I'm still confused about where my fucking Justice League satellite came from.

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The only people who dislike Eternal are people who aren't good at it.

Also TC's opinion is invalid as it's one of the best looking games out right now.

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Doom Eternal holds the distinguished place in my gaming career of being the ONLY video game in my entire life--and I've been gaming since Super Mario Brothers first came out, and also I've beaten all the Souls games many times and loved them all--where at one point, I literally hit the pause menu, went into the settings, went to the difficulty, and changed it from medium to easy. I have never, ever, ever done that in any other video game.

And I'll add that I still enjoyed it, and felt like the game played like a normal medium difficulty game after that.
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YMMV on the art style shift but it still looks good.

It 100% feels better to play than 2016 though. So much faster and you have way more tools.

I loved the hell out of 2016, and didn't even bother finishing Eternal

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Atmosphere is more cartoony but I love it. If the platforming was less awful it'd be perfect to me.

Well that and if the marauder had maybe 50% less hp

DrizztLink posted...

It's less the graphics and more the design.

Like I enjoyed how 2016 had you find weapons organically.

Now they're all just floating in midair in the middle of the path.

I personally prefer that just for the retro boomer shooter feel :)

both are overrated as hell, especially the music

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I dont like how nerfed the melee attack is in Eternal. I loved finishing off demons with a couple of punches in the original.

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ultimate reaver posted...

both are overrated as hell, especially the music

Garbage take, especially if you're including the eternal gods music, probably the best music artist of the last decade for gaming.

CRON posted...

The only people who dislike Eternal are people who aren't good at it.

Also TC's opinion is invalid as it's one of the best looking games out right now.

This. I've been playing Nightmare mode, dying constantly, but still having fun. It seems like a lot of the difficulty comes from failing to take advantage of one's resources. After getting into the habit of using dashes, the chainsaw, grenades, and the flamethrower, I've noticed I'm doing better.

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WrestlinFan posted...

I dont like how nerfed the melee attack is in Eternal. I loved finishing off demons with a couple of punches in the original.

its only nerfed until you get blood punch, then you can 1 shot some big demons with it

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I would love if someone made a PC mod for Eternal that cuts out most or all of the platforming sections, made the regular punch do at least a little bit of damage, and made it so when enemies fought each other it actually did damage. That'd be swell.

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CRON posted...

The only people who dislike Eternal are people who aren't good at it.

Also TC's opinion is invalid as it's one of the best looking games out right now.

I don't have a problem with the gameplay. It's pretty hard but I'm enjoying that aspect.

WrestlinFan posted...

I dont like how nerfed the melee attack is in Eternal. I loved finishing off demons with a couple of punches in the original.

That annoys me a little, just because of zombies.

I don't like wasting bullets on them, punches don't work and I'm missing my infinite ammo pistol.

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s0nicfan posted...

I would love if someone made a PC mod for Eternal that cuts out most or all of the platforming sections, made the regular punch do at least a little bit of damage, and made it so when enemies fought each other it actually did damage. That'd be swell.

Improve but don't remove the platforming, no other real changes needed.

You can just ignore the little zombies most of the time. I was saving them to chainsaw for ammo.

or you can get the exploding barrel perks and just bring them next to a barrel and punch it

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spanky1 posted...

Doom Eternal holds the distinguished place in my gaming career of being the ONLY video game in my entire life--and I've been gaming since Super Mario Brothers first came out, and also I've beaten all the Souls games many times and loved them all--where at one point, I literally hit the pause menu, went into the settings, went to the difficulty, and changed it from medium to easy. I have never, ever, ever done that in any other video game.

And I'll add that I still enjoyed it, and felt like the game played like a normal medium difficulty game after that.

I played almost the entire game on Ultra violence, which is the step below nightmare. But I had to put it on easy mode and then use sentinel armor for the Khan Makyr.


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ImAMarvel posted...

I played the entire game on UV. Khan Makyr really isn't that hard once you learn what to do.

I feel like the bosses in that game aren't as good after you fight the gladiator dude.

Damn. Nice job. The meat hook felt wonky though. I missed out on some damage due to it

I felt like you had to be so particular with the meat hook to get the punch in.

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I never quite understood the complaint about the weakened melee attack because you're almost always gonna have one of the Chainsaw, Blood Punch, or a grenade online.

SrRd_RacinG posted...

I played almost the entire game on Ultra violence, which is the step below nightmare. But I had to put it on easy mode and then use sentinel armor for the Khan Makyr.

I feel you man. Khan Makyr was a massive struggle for me as well on UV. I didn't lower the difficulty, but it was a frustrating fight that I felt should have been much easier for me.

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DE is a fine game but inferior to Doom 2016 in every way but bosses.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

DE is a fine game but inferior to Doom 2016 in every way but bosses.

No.

I had to turn it down from UV for the last fight in that second level.

FUCK those spider things.

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DrizztLink posted...

I had to turn it down from UV for the last fight in that second level.

FUCK those spider things.

oh just wait...

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Definitely a stylistic difference. Eternal feels more like real Doom to me. They really focused on the gameplay loop and a return to form for this game vs 2016.

I liked it a lot, could do with better level design that doesn't rely on platforming to be interesting but even that I don't really mind much.

Gameplay is much more fluid and fast paced in Eternal. Can't go back to 2016 after it.

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Congrats on being wrong tc

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I enjoyed Doom Eternal, but I do think 2016 was a better experience.