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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:29:26 AM
#52:


Your "nuh uh you are!" Defense isn't distracting anyone from how emotional you're getting right now

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MrMallard
07/30/20 4:35:55 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Your "nuh uh you are!" Defense isn't distracting anyone from how emotional you're getting right now

This comment reeks of emotional frailty

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scar the 1
07/30/20 4:57:32 AM
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Ah yes, the old "you can only compare people to Nazis if they're literally gassing Jews in 1930s Germany"

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ultimate reaver
07/30/20 5:07:03 AM
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I like how literally no response to criticism they try to make is an attempt to persuade or argue the way in which what they do is not bad, only that its not their fault and its unfair to be mean to them

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Machete
07/30/20 5:40:00 AM
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ICE agents:

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JE19426
07/30/20 6:19:19 AM
#57:


Solid Snake07 posted...
It's moronic to not be able to argue your point without calling your opposition Nazis.

Cool statement dude, good thing plenty of people gave other arguments in this thread, so your statement isn't relevant to the thread you posted it in.
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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 7:55:22 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Cool statement dude, good thing plenty of people gave other arguments in this thread, so your statement isn't relevant to the thread you posted it in.


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The Catgirl Fondler
07/30/20 8:14:02 AM
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Pigs gonna goose-step.
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brokenfingers
07/30/20 8:18:00 AM
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Apparently nobody in ICE has ever heard of the terms "tone-deaf" and "self-awareness."

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JE19426
07/30/20 8:20:52 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
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whatever you say buddy

Oh, you think that posts 2, 3, 4, 7, 13, 20, 22, 24, 32, 35, all say ICE are Nazi's? That interesting, could you quote some of the posts and explain how they says ICE are Nazi's.
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LightHawKnight
07/30/20 8:44:17 AM
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Rounding people out of their homes and moving people to camps. Also just following orders. Nothing Nazi like about that!

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Prismsblade
07/30/20 8:45:32 AM
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If they want to stop the comparisons they just need to start crossing out everything people use to call them nazis becuase it's easy via propaganda to make 1-1 comaprisons so even a idiot can understand. Detention centers are a good start. Maybe they can move the trials to Mexico so they dont have to hold criminals until court day or care about them running away.

Or turn them into full on prisons and start lumping them together with normal criminals instead of a whole other group. Create daycares for the young, and youth prison centers for teenagers.


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FursonaNonGrata
07/30/20 8:54:52 AM
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brokenfingers posted...
Apparently nobody in ICE has ever heard of the terms "tone-deaf" and "self-awareness."

Being a braindead moron is at the top of the requirements list for being an ICE agent

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legendary_zell
07/30/20 9:09:17 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
I haven't said a single thing regarding my personal views on immigration beyond saying that calling ICE agents nazis makes you sound really uneducated

So you can never compare anything or anyone to the Nazis until they take literally the identical actions within an identical context? Isn't the whole "never again" thing kinda useless then if you can't even sound the alarm with a comparison until Organization X is already mass gassing people in death camps?

Would it be fair to compare what the CCP is doing to Uighyrs to the Nazis? They're "allegedly" not killing them en masse yet, so the Nazi label would be completely inappropriate and uneducated right?

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DeadBankerDream
07/30/20 9:13:10 AM
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ZeroX91 posted...
I was just following orders is never a good defense

Whenever there's a topic about Germany prosecuting someone for Nazi war crimes a lot of people seem to think it's a perfectly valid defense.
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nemu
07/30/20 9:13:47 AM
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Given the absolute horrible mismanagement of the detention centers and the abuse within, I can see some valid comparisons, but we also have people who call them that simply for the fact that we're detaining and deporting people who are here illegally. I feel like even with complete abolishment of the current structure and a new system built from the ground up, many of the current people would still have the same opinion.
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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 9:14:29 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Whenever there's a topic about Germany prosecuting someone for Nazi war crimes a lot of people seem to think it's a perfectly valid defense.
Do you think many CE users would refuse to follow orders if they were in the same position?

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hockeybub89
07/30/20 9:14:40 AM
#69:


Kirby posted...
Very popular with conservatives these days

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hockeybub89
07/30/20 9:15:33 AM
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nemu posted...
Given the absolute horrible mismanagement of the detention centers and the abuse within, I can see some valid comparisons, but we also have people who call them that simply for the fact that we're detaining and deporting people who are here illegally. I feel like even with complete abolishment of the current structure and a new system built from the ground up, many of the current people would still have the same opinion.
"Let's do nothing since some people will always be upset"

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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 9:15:58 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Very popular with conservatives these days
Antifa are the *real* fascists...

Massive huge sarcasm tags, just for philosopher body parts

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DeadBankerDream
07/30/20 9:16:50 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...

Do you think many CE users would refuse to follow orders if they were in the same position?

There it is.
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LightHawKnight
07/30/20 9:18:17 AM
#73:


nemu posted...
Given the absolute horrible mismanagement of the detention centers and the abuse within, I can see some valid comparisons, but we also have people who call them that simply for the fact that we're detaining and deporting people who are here illegally. I feel like even with complete abolishment of the current structure and a new system built from the ground up, many of the current people would still have the same opinion.

Dont care about all the legal citizens they have also detained? Or the fuck they are doing with colleges and foreign students?

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averagejoel
07/30/20 9:19:49 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Do you think many CE users would refuse to follow orders if they were in the same position?
the type of people to be ICE agents in the first place are not the type that would refuse such orders

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nemu
07/30/20 9:21:17 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Dont care about all the legal citizens they have also detained? Or the fuck they are doing with colleges and foreign students?
I understand it's broken and in need of reform, but I just think many people complaining are of the opinion that such an organization shouldn't be run in principal.
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puppy
07/30/20 9:26:54 AM
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ICE is doing a normal job, its the weirdos that think illegal immigrants should roam free that are calling them Nazis.

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NinjaWarrior455
07/30/20 9:27:00 AM
#77:


ICE serves absolutely no good for the country.

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hockeybub89
07/30/20 9:28:07 AM
#78:


puppy posted...
ICE is doing a normal job, its the weirdos that think illegal immigrants should roam free that are calling them Nazis.
If concentration camps are normal, then blow normal to smithereens and then shoot them into the sun.

Immigration existed before ICE and can exist after

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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 9:28:33 AM
#79:


DeadBankerDream posted...
There it is.

My god, some of you really try to find enemies everywhere.

That was not a defence of either the fucking Nazis or ICE agents. It was an observation that common decency is not particularly common.

If there was a Holocaust II, my family would be exterminated. If you think Im an apologist youre a really silly sausage.

averagejoel posted...
the type of people to be ICE agents in the first place are not the type that would refuse such orders

That is a very good point.

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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 9:30:56 AM
#81:


puppy posted...
ICE is doing a normal job, its the weirdos that think illegal immigrants should roam free that are calling them Nazis.

Wow. Keeping small kids in cages is normal for you? What would you consider to be beyond the pale?

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NovaFlame112
07/30/20 9:46:48 AM
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Yeah nah they ain't Nazis. You can't simply just walk into the country. If you come in illegally you gotta go back out. Turn around and go through a port of entry next time if you want to seek asylum. Otherwise join the line like everyone else.
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hockeybub89
07/30/20 9:50:15 AM
#83:


NovaFlame112 posted...
Yeah nah they ain't Nazis. You can't simply just walk into the country. If you come in illegally you gotta go back out. Turn around and go through a port of entry next time if you want to seek asylum. Otherwise join the line like everyone else.
This is literally not how ICE is enforcing immigration though.

Comparisons don't need to be 1:1.

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Shablagoo
07/30/20 10:51:39 AM
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puppy posted...
ICE is doing a normal job, its the weirdos that think illegal immigrants should roam free that are calling them Nazis.

Shut the fuck up and stop defending reprehensible behavior.

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CyricZ
07/30/20 11:20:18 AM
#85:


Normalizing fascism is the easiest way to support it.

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Cheater87
07/30/20 11:21:22 AM
#86:


The irony.

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NinjaWarrior455
07/30/20 11:36:16 AM
#87:


"Are we the baddies?"

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/30/20 11:39:17 AM
#88:


I hope it actually does injure their self image, and that people continue to make the very apt and correct comparisons.

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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 12:56:10 PM
#89:


JE19426 posted...
Oh, you think that posts 2, 3, 4, 7, 13, 20, 22, 24, 32, 35, all say ICE are Nazi's? That interesting, could you quote some of the posts and explain how they says ICE are Nazi's.


Sure, as soon as you quote the post where is said any of those posters said that

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JE19426
07/30/20 2:22:52 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Sure, as soon as you quote the post where is said any of those posters said that

Ok, here you go:

Solid Snake07 posted...
Cool statement dude, good thing plenty of people gave other arguments in this thread, so your statement isn't relevant to the thread you posted it in.

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HylianFox
07/30/20 2:24:30 PM
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Which of course is the same excuse Nazi officers made

"We were just following orders!"

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HylianFox
07/30/20 2:25:24 PM
#92:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
"Are we the baddies?"

"I mean, we wear black, our logo is a skull..."

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DiegoSanchez206
07/30/20 2:27:16 PM
#93:


Why is ICE compared to Nazis? Did I miss something? They deport illegal immigrants.

Is there a story or something I missed?

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Shablagoo
07/30/20 3:25:13 PM
#94:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:47:26 PM
#95:


JE19426 posted...
Ok, here you go:


So where exacly did I single out anyone of those posters? Or anyone specifically at all for that matter?

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Poop2
07/30/20 4:53:12 PM
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boo fucking hoo
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Shablagoo
07/30/20 4:54:38 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
So where exacly did I single out anyone of those posters?

*any one

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JE19426
07/31/20 6:02:22 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
So where exacly did I single out anyone of those posters? Or anyone specifically at all for that matter?

Where did I claim you did single out anyone? I stated that your post was irrelevant as multiple people in this topic gave arguments without calling people Nazi's. You disagreed with my claim, and were therefore saying that there aren't any posts in this topic presenting arguments without calling people Nazi's.
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Solid Snake07
07/31/20 6:05:03 AM
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JE19426 posted...
You disagreed with my claim, and were therefore saying that there aren't any posts in this topic presenting arguments without calling people Nazi's.


Never said that kiddo. You're arguing with apparitions of your own creation

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JE19426
07/31/20 6:06:41 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Never said that kiddo. You're arguing with apparitions of your own creation

Oh, in that case explain this post:

Solid Snake07 posted...
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Solid Snake07
07/31/20 6:25:34 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Oh, in that case explain this post:


I'm not sure if you're just trolling or really are this bad at reading comprehension.

Either way this isn't going anywhere

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JE19426
07/31/20 6:27:23 AM
#102:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I'm not sure if you're just trolling or really are this bad at reading comprehension.

Either way this isn't going anywhere

I don't see how asking people to explain a post is trolling. Could you explain how it is to me?
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