Poll of the Day > Science discovers bisexual men are not a myth

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Lokarin
07/24/20 3:17:31 AM
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Unit7
07/24/20 3:43:30 AM
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Lies

im definitely a mythical creature.
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LinkPizza
07/24/20 3:50:26 AM
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I never understood why people didnt think men could be bisexual. A few people at work are like this. But only with men. Women apparently can be.

Whats funny is I was recently reading about Ancient Rome and stuff again. Where men would have sex with men. But it was more than that. Apparently, people assumed me to be bisexual (though I there wasnt really a term for it, IIRC). And you were consider eccentric if you prefer men OR women more than the other. So, bisexuality was the norm. And straight and gay people were the odd ones out...
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Sarcasthma
07/24/20 4:50:07 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Whats funny is I was recently reading about Ancient Rome and stuff again. Where men would have sex with men.
Don't forget about all the boys!

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LinkPizza
07/24/20 4:52:47 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Don't forget about all the boys!

Yeah. Them, too...
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KnoxKorner
07/24/20 5:16:52 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

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aHappySacka
07/24/20 5:29:15 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Whats funny is I was recently reading about Ancient Rome and stuff again. Where men would have sex with men
Speaking of sex I read something related to this from an Imgur comment which went along the the lines of:

"The ancient Greeks were the first people to document having orgies whereas the ancient Romans began to include women in them."

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Miroku_of_Nite1
07/24/20 6:16:26 AM
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aHappySacka posted...
Speaking of sex I read something related to this from an Imgur comment which went along the the lines of:

"The ancient Greeks were the first people to document having orgies whereas the ancient Romans began to include women in them."
Which reminds me.


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Dreamgamer_lgbt
07/24/20 10:39:49 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
I never understood why people didnt think men could be bisexual. A few people at work are like this. But only with men. Women apparently can be.

Whats funny is I was recently reading about Ancient Rome and stuff again. Where men would have sex with men. But it was more than that. Apparently, people assumed me to be bisexual (though I there wasnt really a term for it, IIRC). And you were consider eccentric if you prefer men OR women more than the other. So, bisexuality was the norm. And straight and gay people were the odd ones out...

That is true. Nobody was making a difference in genders and sexuality regarding relationships until around 321 CE. ( A.D.) at least that is for Roman Empire and most of Europe too.
Unfortunately that changed and for nearly past two thousand years it was a horror.
People were killed for loving a person of the same gender and to this day some countries still do that.
Even discriminating same-gender relationships is cruel treatment that can ruin lives, unfortunately some people consider such treatment to be good for moral values.
I would say that this confirms that even if humans follow and understand the importance of some good ethical principles today , they may disregard them in future. We never know what other things people will come up with.

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LinkPizza
07/24/20 12:22:35 PM
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Dreamgamer_lgbt posted...
That is true. Nobody was making a difference in genders and sexuality regarding relationships until around 321 CE. ( A.D.) at least that is for Roman Empire and most of Europe too.
Unfortunately that changed and for nearly past two thousand years it was a horror.
People were killed for loving a person of the same gender and to this day some countries still do that.
Even discriminating same-gender relationships is cruel treatment that can ruin lives, unfortunately some people consider such treatment to be good for moral values.
I would say that this confirms that even if humans follow and understand the importance of some good ethical principles today , they may disregard them in future. We never know what other things people will come up with.

When I was talking to a guy about, I mentioned it being sad that we went backwards by not letting people love who they love without making those people weird. But he said, Maybe it didnt work. It seemed to work for then to an extent I guess, but things changed for them and now things are the way they are for us, so maybe it's better this way. I disagreed, though. At least with the last part. I just figured that it died with them and their culture when the ancients died or whatever... But I dont think its better this way...
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wwinterj25
07/24/20 12:26:07 PM
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I knew Bisexual men wasn't a myth!

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ChaosAzeroth
07/24/20 1:15:38 PM
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The 4x the arousal thing is just...

You can be bi with a preference....

I'm dying, why were scientific people debating this? Honestly why is anyone debating this?

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Zareth
07/24/20 2:02:48 PM
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You don't say.

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Voxwik
07/24/20 2:08:03 PM
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People that even question this really annoy me either way. Yes, everyone is lying just because to challenge their narrow-minded bigoted world view.
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Zeus
07/24/20 2:47:06 PM
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ParanoidObsessive
07/24/20 3:00:56 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I never understood why people didnt think men could be bisexual.

There was a strong push from the gay community for years against the idea, because they preferred the idea that bisexual men were just gay men who weren't confident enough to come out.

Acknowledging the idea that sexuality is more fluid than a single either/or switch creates problems and makes the "born gay and you'll never change" narrative harder to accept. It also potentially opens the door to accepting something like the Kinsey Scale, but assuming that people can slide up or down the scale over time (which then opens the door to revalidating things like conversion camps).

Acceptance of bisexuality was always a touchy subject with a lot of gay people, even after it sort of became the third prong in the trident (before trans moved in to become letter number four in the acronym). Some thought it detracted from their own struggle (in the same way a lot of black people have always had issues with lighter-skin blacks who can "pass"), though others saw it as a way to break down the idea of only two possible alignments (with one the "normal" one and the other being an "alternative lifestyle").

That kind of divisiveness has never really gone away in the movement as a whole - there's always Ls and Gs who dislike being lumped together with Bs, people who are fine with LGB but kind of draw the line at T, and for a while LGBTs who were pushing back against including I, A, Q, or whatever initial people want to add in any given week (which led to the + just being a stand-in for "anyone who doesn't fit into traditional assumptions of sex and gender identity").

And if people who themselves have life experience being confused or harassed for their preferences or sense of identity can't agree on how to feel about the issue, it's not like mainstream straight society is going to have a much more nuanced view of things.
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Voxwik
07/24/20 3:02:55 PM
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Who is this "they?" "The gay community" is not a single monolithic collective consciousness. I suppose I'm just arguing semantics and you probably meant "within" and not "from" though.

And yeah, intolerance exists everywhere. I once saw a rant from a gay guy about gay guys who like ABBA or who are stereotypically masculine looking but act cutesy. He was convinced both were just acts to fit into stereotypes, which is insane.
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LinkPizza
07/24/20 4:14:38 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
There was a strong push from the gay community for years against the idea, because they preferred the idea that bisexual men were just gay men who weren't confident enough to come out.

Yeah. Ive heard of that. Ive never really bought into it. I do think some people are in denial. But thats more of a person to person basis. Though, its not always just because someone says their bi. Like one guy whos in a sexual and romantic relationship with another male, but says hes straight since its the only guy he likes. But again, for me, its just person to person. I believe bi males exist. And have seen people who identify as one. Its weird that people think they. These days, I see more women who say they dont exist. This one girl identifies as bi and everything. But then turns around and says bi guys dont exist. Its weird...

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Acknowledging the idea that sexuality is more fluid than a single either/or switch creates problems and makes the "born gay and you'll never change" narrative harder to accept. It also potentially opens the door to accepting something like the Kinsey Scale, but assuming that people can slide up or down the scale over time (which then opens the door to revalidating things like conversion camps).

I think more people in the LGBT community are trusting in the Kinsey scale more. And many also do understand sexuality being fluid. Even on other forums, they have guys that were totally only into males who are now into females. Or some who liked women to degree, but wont touch one now.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Acceptance of bisexuality was always a touchy subject with a lot of gay people, even after it sort of became the third prong in the trident (before trans moved in to become letter number four in the acronym). Some thought it detracted from their own struggle (in the same way a lot of black people have always had issues with lighter-skin blacks who can "pass"), though others saw it as a way to break down the idea of only two possible alignments (with one the "normal" one and the other being an "alternative lifestyle").

I think I know what they mean. Even as a younger me, I use to be jealous of guys who were bi since, if I was bi, I could technically live the normal life my family wanted me to...
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Mead
07/24/20 5:05:01 PM
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they could have just asked

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Lokarin
07/24/20 5:25:54 PM
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How do we know bisexual women exist...

Thesis: Women are attractive, so naturally even women want to get with women.

Counter-thesis: Provide an attractive man that a "straight" man finds boneable.

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Zareth
07/24/20 7:19:14 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Counter-thesis: Provide an attractive man that a "straight" man finds boneable.
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papercup
07/24/20 8:17:23 PM
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I didn't even know this was up for debate. o_O

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HornedLion
07/24/20 8:23:55 PM
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See in nature big men would bang smaller men to show dominance. Sometimes the weaker male would be exposed to bodily fluids, and that would cause them to create more estrogen in their body. And that would insure that the dominant male remained dominate. Then he got all the girls.

I think I read this in a middle school textbook or saw it on the science channel.

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wolfy42
07/24/20 8:35:34 PM
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Guys have been paying for sex since the first cave man found a pretty rock and a cave girl wanted it.

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Voxwik
07/25/20 12:49:39 AM
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Lokarin posted...
How do we know bisexual women exist...

Thesis: Women are attractive, so naturally even women want to get with women.

Counter-thesis: Provide an attractive man that a "straight" man finds boneable.

It's possible to have a reaction without wanting to do anything.

I'm like 90% not into women, but the occasional characters or women stand out to me. Bayonetta, Fang from Final Fantasy XIII, Merlwyb in FFXIV. Those are all characters I'd consider attractive even if I don't swing that way. (They are also examples of characters designed to be cool that I think pull it off.)

But either way, it's a spectrum and a small spark of attraction doesn't mean a desire for anything physical. With the cover of anonymity I see plenty of straight guys post as such about male characters now and then, and I guess nowadays it's probably not a big deal even without anonymity.
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