Poll of the Day > How do I get deeper into conspiracy theories?

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Ive been watching videos for fun but I keep scratching the surface and people show the same basic concepts but I cant find any more info

Reddit, the home of conspiracy on the internet.

If you're on YouTube, they pretty much ban anything deeper than surface level for conspiracy theories. You'll have to search podcasters and a lot of them are banned too so you might have to search other mediums

Take your head.

Jam it way up your own ass.

Profit.

ask one of the whackjobs on this board
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OhhhJa posted...

If you're on YouTube, they pretty much ban anything deeper than surface level for conspiracy theories. You'll have to search podcasters and a lot of them are banned too so you might have to search other mediums

Reddit like another one said?
I wish we had a board. Reddit is hard to navigate

Why do you want to remove your own brain?

Smoke more weed and it'll be really easy

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Cant help but feel like this is Mead.

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rjsilverthorn posted...

Reddit, the home of conspiracy on the internet.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Why do you want to remove your own brain?

Learning someone elses opinions wont lobotomize me.

zebatov posted...

Cant help but feel like this is Mead.

I'm pretty sure it's zebatov.

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FluffyGriffon posted...

Reddit like another one said?
I wish we had a board. Reddit is hard to navigate

We do.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/214-paranormal-conspiracy

But it's glory days are about a decade ago. /x/ on 4chan was sort of good many years ago. But like all paranormal/conspiracy places the schizos take over and ruin the discussion.

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FluffyGriffon posted...

Ive been watching videos for fun but I keep scratching the surface and people show the same basic concepts but I cant find any more info

It's almost as if they're basically just dumb Internet parlor games and appear superficially plausible if you're willing to hold your nose and gulp down any half-baked nonsense.

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reddit.com/r/conservative

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Clench281 posted...

reddit.com/r/conservative

lol

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wat about teh darknet??

Sarcasthma posted...

I'm pretty sure it's zebatov.

zeb uses punctuation, ok?

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FluffyGriffon posted...

Learning someone elses opinions wont lobotomize me.

It will if you start believing nonsense.

BlackScythe0 posted...

It will if you start believing nonsense.

never Said I did believe them.

Some conspiracy theories turn out to be true. I don't have examples.

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kind9 posted...

Some conspiracy theories turn out to be true. I don't have examples.

This should be easy to have at least one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Just make up the info yourself

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I've been studying conspiracies for years, and there's one thing I always recommend that always goes above the heads of most on this site:

Store information as "tables" in your head the best that you can. Don't get attached to anything. Only insert facts, yes or no, into these mental tables.

--Who put the information out there
--When did the piece come out
--Who sponsored/hosted the platform from which the material was presented?

And you can rewrite your queries later:

--Who benefitted from putting this out there? Do they genuinely care, or does someone have dirt on them?
--Is the timing of this piece somehow relevant to getting ahead of a narrative?

Etc.

Thinking for yourself and not attaching to labels will make you an excellent conspiracy theorist because your analytical self won't have any preconceived notions to bump into. ("Hey, I'm a democrat/republican, that doesn't make sense!" --cognitive dissonance)

Users on this site have called me horrible things simply for talking about a letter of the alphabet, but I'm the nut job.

kind9 posted...

Some conspiracy theories turn out to be true. I don't have examples.

I'm pretty convinced JFK and mlk were government hit jobs personally.

That's about all I believe. It was confirmed that the FBI was sending mlk letters telling him to commit suicide, JFK was of a very similar political view, defunding the FBI.

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JOExHIGASHI posted...

Just make up the info yourself

That is what most conspiracy theories are now days.

BlackScythe0 posted...

That is what most conspiracy theories are now days.

Maybe to people who don't care to do any deep research whatsoever.

RedPixel posted...

Maybe to people who don't care to do any deep research whatsoever.

Says the guy who believes absolute insanity.

First step is to forget that you have any concept of rational thinking.

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Yellow posted...

I'm pretty convinced JFK and mlk were government hit jobs personally.

That's about all I believe. It was confirmed that the FBI was sending mlk letters telling him to commit suicide, JFK was of a very similar political view, defunding the FBI.

So, who orchestrated the hit? Lyndon Johnson? How many people knew prior? How many people found out in the investigation and then were paid off or killed to keep silent?


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kangolcone posted...

First step is to forget that you have any concept of rational thinking.

Analytical thinking VS being a sheep to any/all propaganda, which is an inevitable end-game if you never ask questions...

Your statement lacks a clear definition of "rational thinking," therefore eliminating any logical approach... which is asking questions in an attempt to draw conclusions... congratulations, you played yourself.

You do you m8

RedPixel posted...

Analytical thinking VS being a sheep to any/all propaganda, which is an inevitable end-game if you never ask questions...

Your statement lacks a clear definition of "rational thinking," therefore eliminating any logical approach... which is asking questions in an attempt to draw conclusions... congratulations, you played yourself.

You do you m8

You write like reddit and memes had a bot child. You realize how big of a leap there is from hey lets ask questions to a singular person named Q is helping to disseminate high level government secrets?

Its easier for you to believe that a group of high level government officials killed thousands in an attempt to steal gold from under the WTC than it is to believe terrorists incorporated plane hijacking (which theyve done before) with taking down a building (which theyve attempted before).

Its not that people like me dont ask questions, its that we actually thought about it instead of believing a guy because he was able to start a YouTube page.


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kind9 posted...

Some conspiracy theories turn out to be true. I don't have examples.

• MK Ultra experiments turned out to be true.

• The Dali Lama was paid millions by the US to disrupt Chinese culture.

• Edward Snowden....self-explanatory

• The real reason Anthony Bourdain killed himself was because Harvey Weinstein told him about his wife, Asia Argento grooming a 9 year old boy she work with on a film years ago, and maintained a relationship with until he was 16. He told him out of revenge for Argento pulling the trigger on the whole "MeToo Movement" against him.

• The Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged so the US could start the Vietnam War.

• During the 50s, cigarette companies convinced the public that smoking does not cause cancer.

• Rachel Carson (who wrote "Silent Spring") was threatened directly by Monsanto, when she exposed the dangers of using DDT in public spaces. After Monsanto convinced the public that DDT was safe to use.

....when you speak about these things during the time it happened, back then you'd still be labelled as the crazy conspiracy theorists. The problem is, it takes years to prove it it's real.

^ Operation Northwoods is Conspiracy Theory/Chess 101 and is a great introduction to deepstate operatives and understanding why/how false flags are useful to [them].

RedPixel posted...

I've been studying conspiracies for years, and there's one thing I always recommend that always goes above the heads of most on this site:

Store information as "tables" in your head the best that you can. Don't get attached to anything. Only insert facts, yes or no, into these mental tables.

--Who put the information out there
--When did the piece come out
--Who sponsored/hosted the platform from which the material was presented?

And you can rewrite your queries later:

--Who benefitted from putting this out there? Do they genuinely care, or does someone have dirt on them?
--Is the timing of this piece somehow relevant to getting ahead of a narrative?

Etc.

Thinking for yourself and not attaching to labels will make you an excellent conspiracy theorist because your analytical self won't have any preconceived notions to bump into. ("Hey, I'm a democrat/republican, that doesn't make sense!" --cognitive dissonance)

Users on this site have called me horrible things simply for talking about a letter of the alphabet, but I'm the nut job.

Interesting?! Thanks

yeah like I think its interesting. The one I recently heard is out there
someone saying theres a group called Illuminati and Beyonc is in it cause she does hand symbols and stuff

someone else said a super scary one thst its possible to sell your soul and a lot of singers do but regret it citing Kanye, Eminem, Katy Perry, and more that ones more scary but cant be true

so I dont believe them but its interesting like how when I was a kid, Id listen to scary stories all the time

Raze_Razel posted...

The Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged so the US could start the Vietnam War.

jim Morrisons dad was a huge part of that and the day before jim died, his dads ship was decommissioned.

that one always gets me

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Raze_Razel posted...

* MK Ultra experiments turned out to be true.

* The Dali Lama was paid millions by the US to disrupt Chinese culture.

* Edward Snowden....self-explanatory

* The real reason Anthony Bourdain killed himself was because Harvey Weinstein told him about his wife, Asia Argento grooming a 9 year old boy she work with on a film years ago, and maintained a relationship with until he was 16. He told him out of revenge for Argento pulling the trigger on the whole "MeToo Movement" against him.

* The Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged so the US could start the Vietnam War.

* During the 50s, cigarette companies convinced the public that smoking does not cause cancer.

* Rachel Carson (who wrote "Silent Spring") was threatened directly by Monsanto, when she exposed the dangers of using DDT in public spaces. After Monsanto convinced the public that DDT was safe to use.

....when you speak about these things during the time it happened, back then you'd still be labelled as the crazy conspiracy theorists. The problem is, it takes years to prove it it's real.

Heres the problem. You interject truth (MK) with half truth (Dali Lama) and complete conjecture (Bourdain) alongside things that arent actually conspiracies.

Like I said, step one is losing rational thought.

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Conspiracy theories are dumb because the rabbit hole is usually just empty or full of dead squirrels.

The real dive is doing ARG conspiracy games.

...

Of course, ARGs tend to expire when solved.. .so I can only give you this:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1145960/The_White_Door/

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You don't go deeper in conspiracy theories, because conspiracy theories are based on assumption, misinterpreted information and loose coincidence. There is no deeper to go, because generally if you do a bit of real research you will see it is just crackpot conjectures. If you try to point that out though, proponents will just say you don't want to dig deeper, when in reality the people who believe them full stop usually have lower intellect.

Archgoat posted...

You don't go deeper in conspiracy theories, because conspiracy theories are based on assumption, misinterpreted information and loose coincidence.

Your idea of "loose coincidence" ignores discrete structures, plausible suspicion, and "how many coincidences until mathematically impossible?"

Each conspiracy is unique. Some hold validity, others are completely moronic. It's a wide spectrum.

kangolcone posted...

So, who orchestrated the hit? Lyndon Johnson? How many people knew prior? How many people found out in the investigation and then were paid off or killed to keep silent?

Idk

Who knows. But all the best political figures are the only ones who get assassinated.

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RedPixel posted...

Each conspiracy is unique. Some hold validity, others are completely moronic. It's a wide spectrum.

I'll always remember the people on GameFAQs who claimed that Nick Berg, the first US hostage beheaded in Iraq, was actually murdered by CIA agents in an American facility -- citing as their evidence the fact that in the video, Berg was wearing a prison-style orange jumpsuit: a jumpsuit that his American captors, these black ops experts, had clearly forgotten to take off before filming his execution.

That's the level of braindead stupidity I've most often seen from conspiracy theorists. There's being open minded, and then there's being so open minded your brain actually falls out of your fucking head.

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Yeah but for me thats just interesting Im not being swayed in just entertaining new thoughts

Y'know, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that a lot of idiotic conspiracy theories are deliberately being pushed as a kind of white noise, with the intention of discrediting genuine scandals exposed by whistleblowers... In other words, your belief in conspiracy theories might be part of a conspiracy!

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Firewerx posted...

That's the level of braindead stupidity I've most often seen from conspiracy theorists. There's being open minded, and then there's being so open minded your brain actually falls out of your fucking head.

Analytical thinking.

Some have it, others don't.

RedPixel posted...

Analytical thinking.

Some have it, others don't.

Your brain fell out fam.

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kangolcone posted...

Heres the problem. You interject truth (MK) with half truth (Dali Lama) and complete conjecture (Bourdain) alongside things that arent actually conspiracies.

I'll admit the Bourdian story isn't confirmed, but there's a lot going on in that story that very makes it very plausible. When you look at the sequence of events from when Wienstien got charged, the moment the MeToo movement trended, to when Bourdian killed himself, and the story of Argento's pedophilia appeared after.... especially in earlier stories about Wienstien when was quoted in saying that he has 'dirt' on many people in Hollywood; alluded to the notion that he could drop a lot of bombs if the trial moves forward.... It's a very very very VERY plausible theory, that Wienstien got his revenge on Asia for being the celebrity figurehead of MeToo....Bourdian's suicide was just collateral.

But "MK Ultra" is real, and the Dali Ilama is confirmed as well.

Now I'm not sure where you can actually say the others aren't conspiracies but you have to view those events in it's proper historical context.

Could you honestly believe, living in the 1950s, being told that smoking was "GOOD" for you; even by the Surgeon General (who was probably paid off by Philip Morris directly)..... only then lowly doctors are saying "Hey, we got people with lung cancer here, they got it from smoking!"..... but the "powers that be" are saying NONSENSE! And the America people in general are going "duhhhh, okay"....

Again, it's context. There was a time when EVERYONE thought smoking was harmless. But save for the few who actually proved it was bad. Those people at the time were shunned, and brushed aside for spreading "unfounded" facts, and dismissed as "conspiracy theorists".

Same with the Edward Snowden whistleblower. Everyone thought "Nahhhh, the America government doesn't spy on its people. Anyone thinking that is crazy and paranoid."......and now we know the truth, right?