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Verdekal
07/03/20 2:02:38 PM
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DC's heroes are more stereotypical leotard types which represent an ideal. It's nice but there's a sense of shallowness. More recently, though, there seems to be more depth involved, even if it's a bit one dimensional.

Marvel's heroes are more human and relatable. They have other life they have to balance and it commonly deals with real world issues. Maybe one difference is that many of DC's heroes were born superpowered but many of Marvel's heroes were powered either as teens or in early adulthood so they already have a human life to work with.

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GodIsImaginary
07/03/20 2:03:24 PM
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DC = cool villains, boring heroes

Marvel = cool heroes, boring villains
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Tyranthraxus
07/03/20 2:04:26 PM
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I agree with the more summarily:

DC has gods trying to be men and Marvel has men trying to be gods.

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Zikten
07/03/20 2:06:11 PM
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another thing to note is that in DC the citizens USUALLY (not always) worship the heroes. most DC super heroes get looked up to as idols. in Marvel people are more likely to criticize them or distrust them.

I think Marvel is a more realistic world IMO. if super heroes really did exist, Marvel is closer to what it would be like than DC
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Ivynn
07/03/20 2:07:40 PM
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DC = gods among men
Marvel = men among gods

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/20 2:18:03 PM
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Zikten posted...
another thing to note is that in DC the citizens USUALLY (not always) worship the heroes. most DC super heroes get looked up to as idols. in Marvel people are more likely to criticize them or distrust them.

I think Marvel is a more realistic world IMO. if super heroes really did exist, Marvel is closer to what it would be like than DC

None of them are remotely close to realistic. There's been several attempts at creating a "realistic super hero comic" and outside of the joke ones where shit like Peter Parker is bit by a radioactive spider and gets sick and dies, the "most realistic" is probably Watchmen.

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tommybel89
07/03/20 2:23:15 PM
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This perception is kind of DC's fault. They were still writing these cardboard thin comic book characters while Stan Lee over at Marvel wrote actual flawed people. Spider-Man is struggling to pay the rent and over at DC, Batman is pretty much exactly like the Adam West TV show. The whole Justice League gets along. The Avengers are rotating members every couple issues and there are personality conflicts. Marvel felt like it was hip with the counterculture movement. DC just trodded along like it was the post-WW2 era.

DC didn't make "relevant" stories until the early 70's. Batman had returned to being the "dark detective". Green Lantern and Green Arrow fought against societal ills. Superman got his powers lowered and the extra fluff got cut out. But they did it pretty much a decade too late. Marvel got a hold of the sales lead somewhere in the 70's and hasn't not really let it go. One of the main Batman series (Detective Comics) was on the brink of cancellation in the late 70's. The saving grace for DC is that they had lead in the movie business for decades until the 2000's. And even with that huge lead, they had like... 5 good movies from 1978 to 2005. And calling the Tim Burton movies 'good' is almost a stretch.

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/20 2:29:56 PM
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tommybel89 posted...
DC didn't make "relevant" stories until the early 70's.

Spider-Man didn't exist until the 60s. I think you're overselling how long Marvel has been doing what they're doing. Stan Lee spoke about this at length earlier. The biggest appeal of Spider-Man was the full body covering because you couldn't identity his race/ethnicity while he was wearing it so it was a big hit with minority communities while DC was still peddling white power.


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Balrog0
07/03/20 2:37:33 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
None of them are remotely close to realistic. There's been several attempts at creating a "realistic super hero comic" and outside of the joke ones where shit like Peter Parker is bit by a radioactive spider and gets sick and dies, the "most realistic" is probably Watchmen.

It's a novel, not a comic, but my favorite realistic superhero narrative is 'the violent century,'

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tommybel89
07/03/20 2:40:45 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Spider-Man didn't exist until the 60s. I think you're overselling how long Marvel has been doing what they're doing. Stan Lee spoke about this at length earlier. The biggest appeal of Spider-Man was the full body covering because you couldn't identity his race/ethnicity while he was wearing it so it was a big hit with minority communities while DC was still peddling white power.
I know that Spider-Man is from 1962. It's a somewhat hard era to read on both sides, but the Marvel stuff of that decade outclasses DC most of the time. That to me just says how forward-thinking Stan Lee and his artists were right out of the gate. DC felt like a post-war fantasy land whereas Marvel reflected the real world far more. The NYC setting also helps a lot.

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SolidShadow3
07/03/20 2:41:41 PM
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DC does more "Epics" like Greek/Roman Mythology. Theres always some "Epic Moment" that solves everything.

Marvel relies on fall out, and [tries to] make sure its followed up on. Theres always a consequence.

Basically DC has Superman, The Flash, and Batman, but at the end of the day it's always "lesson learned, onto the status quo!" And Marvel is "Shit happened, how is everyone going to handle it?"

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Christian RULES
07/03/20 2:42:08 PM
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Marvel: We have the Hulk

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Zikten
07/03/20 2:45:10 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


None of them are remotely close to realistic. There's been several attempts at creating a "realistic super hero comic" and outside of the joke ones where shit like Peter Parker is bit by a radioactive spider and gets sick and dies, the "most realistic" is probably Watchmen.

I mean in terms of how the world would react to super powers
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tommybel89
07/03/20 2:45:52 PM
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For all the bashing I gave DC for basically giving up the lead, they redeemed themselves in the 80's: Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, The Sandman, Swamp Thing by Alan Moore, V for Vendetta, The Killing Joke, Green Arrow by Mike Grell, etc. They pretty much nailed down the graphic novel format in a way that Marvel hasn't quite done.

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Garioshi
07/03/20 2:49:38 PM
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In the 60's, DC went insane and Marvel kicked ass.
In the 80's, Marvel went insane and DC kicked ass.
In the 90's, both of them went insane.
In the 00's, both of them kicked ass.
Now they switch between the two on a dime, but only one at a time can be good.

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Maze_
07/03/20 2:50:56 PM
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Remember Spawn?

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MrToothHasYou
07/03/20 2:51:26 PM
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DC uses a bunch of fake, made up cities for some reason, Marvel uses real cities

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Ivynn
07/03/20 2:52:18 PM
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SolidShadow3 posted...
DC does more "Epics" like Greek/Roman Mythology. Theres always some "Epic Moment" that solves everything.

Marvel relies on fall out, and [tries to] make sure its followed up on. Theres always a consequence.

Basically DC has Superman, The Flash, and Batman, but at the end of the day it's always "lesson learned, onto the status quo!" And Marvel is "Shit happened, how is everyone going to handle it?"

It's not like Marvel doesn't like shifting back to the status quo. Their fallouts are usually just for shock/drama purposes before things get back to normal.

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/20 2:53:28 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
DC uses a bunch of fake, made up cities for some reason, Marvel uses real cities
Marvel also uses fake places. Latveria and Wakanda aren't real. It just so happens that some of their most popular stories happen in real places.

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Zikten
07/03/20 2:53:42 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
DC uses a bunch of fake, made up cities for some reason, Marvel uses real cities

marvel does some fake locations too. they have entire made up countries like Latveria and Wakanda

and there is that lost continent or whatever full of dinosaurs that the mutants live in.
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tommybel89
07/03/20 2:58:20 PM
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Garioshi posted...
In the 60's, DC went insane and Marvel kicked ass.
In the 80's, Marvel went insane and DC kicked ass.
In the 90's, both of them went insane.
In the 00's, both of them kicked ass.
Now they switch between the two on a dime, but only one at a time can be good.
To be fair in the 80's, Marvel probably had the best extended runs in their main universe books (Frank Miller Daredevil, Chris Claremont X-Men and all the spinoffs, etc). But DC gets a big edge for creating the adult market in 85-86 and then rebooting their main universe and unifying it.

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Nazanir
07/03/20 3:03:34 PM
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Marvel has the best real life action movies.

DC has the best animated movies.

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