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MoogleKupo141
05/16/20 12:55:51 PM
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I just finished it and had to make a post somewhere to say that the scene where Heidegger is like who are you people and Barret says Avalanche, then Aerith says local florist and then Red says lab rat dog or something is one of the funniest bits of dialogue ive ever seen in a video game

I thought the game was very good and I wasnt nearly as bothered by all the weird shit at the end as I expected to be
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Shadow Dino
05/16/20 1:13:56 PM
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The game not being afraid to have some fun is one of its strong suits. As weird as it got in the final chapter, the journey to get there was still great.

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MartinFF7
05/16/20 1:23:32 PM
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Ah, I missed getting into the original before it hit 500 so I was thinking of making a new topic, thanks for covering it.

I got the plat + mastered playlog, at 99 hours 55 minutes, which is almost poetic...

It was late at night, I had heard what a nightmare the arena Bahamut fight was so I figured, oh I'll take a stab at it tonight, see how hard Megaflare hits for, get a gameover, and then retry properly the next day.

....yeah of course it killed everybody BUT Reprieve activated on two of them and I managed to beat him before he could do another Megaflare. Pride and Joy really was too easy by comparison.

Funny thing is the day after getting the platinum trophy I decided to go back and do the summon gauntlet and the final boss sequence again - which I game over'ed at a bunch in the first couple of fights on the first go-around - and found everything way easier. Maybe Gotterdammerung helped a bit with that, who knows... so now over 101 hours.

But one thing I will say unironically: Sephiroth was more trouble than Bahamut for me, as absurd as that sounds... even more trouble on my 2nd go-around because while Aerith was the first "show up" person in that fight in my initial hard mode playthrough, after I did the summon fights again Tifa was the first "show up" person. Hurt to not have the healer come in quick.

Also the game makes me want to replay original FF7, bad. I'll probably start on it soon, and really do every nook-and-cranny and random battle possible in Midgar, which I usually just breeze through.
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Ayvuir
05/16/20 1:24:37 PM
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I wasn't a fan of the ending originally, especially everything that happened in the last two chapters, but after reading stuff online and watching some videos it made me understand it much better and now I'm actually excited for part 2.

If you accept that it will be essentially a different game but set in the same universe and with the same characters as the original, then you're good.

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XIII_rocks
05/16/20 1:42:45 PM
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I struggled a bit with the three whisper guys on hard mode, even with the Gotterdamerung. They killed me twice. First time was because when I had one of them staggered, I didn't do enough damage to it to kill it so it revived with full health and I just kind of gave up. Third time I beat them fairly easily so whatever

Sephiroth I beat first time, as well as Pride and Joy (thanks to Fire+Elemental on armor, lots of haste, arcane ward, healing, various advice).

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MoogleKupo141
05/16/20 2:08:55 PM
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A few more thoughts:

-I was really surprised Roche didnt show up again. When he was revealed I thought for sure that theyd added him to give a more interesting boss fight for the end of the escape from the Shinra building. I did not expect him to make it out of this first part, but I guess their plan is to have him show up as a recurring guy in the series. that seems like overkill since we already have the Turks to fill the recurring minor antagonist role.

-when I analyzed the whispers and saw the bits about one being a sword, one fists, and one a gun I thought wheres the one with a staff to be their Aerith? but now I know that theyre supposed to be the AC guys and not the party

-I appreciated their repurposing of random enemies as boss fights. Obviously we talk about Hell House a lot, but I was stoked when Sword Dance showed up too.
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ctesjbuvf
05/16/20 2:12:42 PM
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Roche was really lame. I didn't mind he didn't show up again at all.

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XIII_rocks
05/16/20 2:55:51 PM
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I could really do without Roche, yes

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BK_Sheikah00
05/16/20 3:02:38 PM
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Best theory about Roche is he will be used to show SOLDIER degradation and become less crazy as it whittles him down. And I would prefer him over Genesis.

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Murphiroth
05/16/20 3:06:56 PM
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Roche is great, haters gonna hate tho!

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GANON1025
05/16/20 3:16:17 PM
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Roche will return, I believe in him.

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MoogleKupo141
05/16/20 3:38:20 PM
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It would be funny if Square saw the negative reaction to Roche and in part two he shows up on his bike, it looks like theres about to be a fight, and then he just gets hits by a truck and dies

or have him get murdered by Sephiroth instead of Midgar Zolom
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INCEPTlON
05/16/20 4:13:21 PM
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Im not going to be able to handle Aerith dying again. Her personality in Remake is very similar to my wifes and the improved graphics are going to make it too much.

Really dreading it

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mccheyne
05/16/20 4:21:44 PM
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Whiskey_Nick
05/16/20 4:23:03 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
It would be funny if Square saw the negative reaction to Roche and in part two he shows up on his bike, it looks like theres about to be a fight, and then he just gets hits by a truck and dies

or have him get murdered by Sephiroth instead of Midgar Zolom
I am all for Roche impaled on a tree

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Murphiroth
05/16/20 4:26:41 PM
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I feel like the Roche hate is a B8 thing. Haven't seen as much dislike elsewhere and he seems generally liked.

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greengravy294
05/16/20 4:26:44 PM
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Lucavi000
05/16/20 4:31:27 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
I feel like the Roche hate is a B8 thing. Haven't seen as much dislike elsewhere and he seems generally liked.

Go to the 7R board and make a poll asking if you like or hate roche and see how much hate you see lol.

Pride and Joy is super easy just due to the fact that all of its attacks are frontal.

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Murphiroth
05/16/20 4:32:21 PM
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Fair enough, I don't visit specific game boards on reddit.

Roche fits the silliness of FF7 to a tee and that's enough for me.

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foolm0r0n
05/16/20 4:57:20 PM
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Lucavi000
05/16/20 4:59:20 PM
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I was kinda hoping Roche would make an appearance in the Shinra building sometime for a rematch but it didnt happen.

I'm sure he'll be around in part 2

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StealThisSheen
05/16/20 5:06:14 PM
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Roche is great

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MartinFF7
05/16/20 5:13:13 PM
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The problem with Roche is he is "just" a 3-C SOLDIER and our team's tearing through them by the endgame like nothing.

Though yeah, it feels weird if we'd never see him again considering the parting words. And his comments after the fight about being able to go even further... there are a few places in the next game he could pop up, depending how he gets used.

Get him promoted to 2-C! Though he really did kill at least 1 Shinra grunt + destroyed all kinds of mechs + help terrorists escape that facility, I mean...

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Fastbreak
05/17/20 2:10:56 AM
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INCEPTlON posted...
Im not going to be able to handle Aerith dying again. Her personality in Remake is very similar to my wifes and the improved graphics are going to make it too much.

Really dreading it

This is a real "look how far we've come" post. And I mean that both in the sense of aging as a person and the state of gaming to get those kinds of responses. Its really fucking cool

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Steiner
05/17/20 10:46:15 AM
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Without the wife part, I feel the same as stripey. Aerith is so damn likeable in this game I'm already torn up over what's probably still going to happen to her
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BK_Sheikah00
05/17/20 10:55:24 AM
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Aerith going literally "U mad?" on Cloud is awesome.

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ShatteredElysium
05/17/20 11:05:08 AM
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MartinFF7 posted...
The problem with Roche is he is "just" a 3-C SOLDIER and our team's tearing through them by the endgame like nothing.

Though yeah, it feels weird if we'd never see him again considering the parting words. And his comments after the fight about being able to go even further... there are a few places in the next game he could pop up, depending how he gets used.

Get him promoted to 2-C! Though he really did kill at least 1 Shinra grunt + destroyed all kinds of mechs + help terrorists escape that facility, I mean...

It's possible he's stronger than 3-C though and is kept at that rank because of how he acts. So not hard to justify him being stronger than his rank. That being said, I don't particularly care for the character.

Aerith is a lot more likeable in this game than the original as they gave her a lot more character. It also helps that she clearly knows far more than she's willing to tell.
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foolm0r0n
05/17/20 11:31:49 AM
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def agree with stripey, she reminds me of his wife too

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INCEPTlON
05/18/20 10:49:28 AM
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Been a while since multiple people have referred to me as Stripey, its nice.

Aeriths got so much more spunk to go along with her sweetness, I love it. They absolutely nailed the characterizations in this game. I can nitpick things all day, but FF7 Remake delivered for me and that is amazing after all these years of build up.

Now back to Aerith. If she can at least not go out in such a.... stabby way, I can come to terms better. Maybe some sort of self sacrifice that isnt so traumatizing?

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Steiner
05/19/20 1:56:06 AM
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INCEPTlON posted...
Been a while since multiple people have referred to me as Stripey, its nice.

Aeriths got so much more spunk to go along with her sweetness, I love it. They absolutely nailed the characterizations in this game. I can nitpick things all day, but FF7 Remake delivered for me and that is amazing after all these years of build up.

Now back to Aerith. If she can at least not go out in such a.... stabby way, I can come to terms better. Maybe some sort of self sacrifice that isnt so traumatizing?


if it's less traumatizing, then all that work to make her likeable is gone to waste. they've made her so likeable, and given us hope in the form off fighting destiny already, so that even though we know it's coming her death would be completely heart wrenching.

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INCEPTlON
05/19/20 8:06:57 AM
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Steiner posted...
if it's less traumatizing, then all that work to make her likeable is gone to waste. they've made her so likeable, and given us hope in the form off fighting destiny already, so that even though we know it's coming her death would be completely heart wrenching.


Valid point. Im just not ready!

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MoogleKupo141
05/19/20 8:09:20 AM
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yeah this game did a great job of making me love Aerith, a character I really didnt have much attachment to in the original.
On one hand, I think changing that major plot point would be a mistake that would make people really upset, but on the other hand... I really dont want her to die.
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BlackDra90n
05/19/20 9:04:36 AM
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Yea I think they did really well with the characterization in this game. Everyone pretty much acts and talks like I would expect them too, which is great. Aerith's VA is especially good imo, can't believe it's her first voice acting job.

I started doing my hard playthrough this weekend, for the most part it's been pretty straightforward but some bosses (Air Buster specifically) have been kinda tough. I bought a third Revival materia immediately after beating it.

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TheRock1525
05/19/20 11:59:22 AM
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I can't lie, I'm not big on Aerith's VA. Something about it feels a bit too try-hardy for what they were going for.

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turbopuns3
05/19/20 12:40:41 PM
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Just finished the train graveyard in hard mode after a lengthy break. It's so funny to think back on how miserable I was at that point in my Normal playthrough. I didn't have Wind Materia yet at all, and I only had 2 weapon skills for each characters. I bet I chugged like 20-30 ethers in that chapter the first time.

Made it through first try no problems on hard. Only thing was I reset the final boss fight once immediately after I realized I'd put Subversion Materia on the wrong character.
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05/19/20 12:53:30 PM
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Steiner
05/19/20 1:24:27 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
yeah this game did a great job of making me love Aerith, a character I really didnt have much attachment to in the original.

exactly this - it's my biggest takeaway from the game

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FFDragon
05/19/20 1:26:43 PM
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I pretty much hated Aeris through the compilation, but I like Remake Aerith quite a bit.

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DeathChicken
05/19/20 1:45:17 PM
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I really don't think she's going to die in this version. Narratively, if Sephiroth has seen how the timeline played out the first time, he has to know that killing her is what ultimately messed up his Meteor plan. So he won't.

He'll kill Tifa

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colliding
05/19/20 2:00:12 PM
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yeah aerith is totally living, no worries
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BK_Sheikah00
05/19/20 2:03:06 PM
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Cloud will send her to the lifestteam. Because they kinda need her there.

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MoogleKupo141
05/19/20 2:10:49 PM
#42:


DeathChicken posted...
I really don't think she's going to die in this version. Narratively, if Sephiroth has seen how the timeline played out the first time, he has to know that killing her is what ultimately messed up his Meteor plan. So he won't.

He'll kill Tifa


Maybe theyll pull a Final Destination and have Sephiroth not kill her, but then she dies some other way because of fate or whatever.
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Lucavi000
05/19/20 2:16:32 PM
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She will think she doesnt have to die this time but in a m.night twist she'll have to die after finding out that activating the holy materia requires a sacrifice.

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MartinFF7
05/19/20 2:18:27 PM
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Lucavi000 posted...
She will think she doesnt have to die this time but in a m.night twist she'll have to die after finding out that activating the holy materia requires a sacrifice.

Yuffie steals the Holy materia, activates it by accident, dies

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TheRock1525
05/19/20 5:27:37 PM
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Y'all loving Aerith when she has a smaller booty than Cloud.

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foolm0r0n
05/19/20 8:32:09 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I can't lie, I'm not big on Aerith's VA. Something about it feels a bit too try-hardy for what they were going for.
I thought that too but it fits the writing. Barrett and Cloud are also try hard.

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Lucavi000
05/19/20 10:08:11 PM
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Everyone is a tryhard. it's a JRPG.

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TheRock1525
05/19/20 10:14:41 PM
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Barrett's is straight awful.

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Epyo
05/19/20 10:49:09 PM
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are you kidding?!?!?! barret's voice acting is like the some of the best I've heard in a game or movie. or maybe the writing is tricking me but holy crap I love barret in ff7r and I barely cared about him in original

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TheRock1525
05/19/20 10:57:41 PM
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Barrett sounds like how the Japanese think black people sound.

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