Board 8 > Adventure Time Mafia! Topic 7 - Premonition Dream - someone gets lynched!

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Votals
[2] Scare - Chris, Ben
[1] Ben - (Chris), HB, (Lea)
[1] Chris - (Lea), Scare
[1] Lopen - Lea
[0] Lea - (Ben)

Day ends tomorrow at 9pm EST.

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I wish I had a useful discord chat.

And Lopen, I dont know if it even matters that much, but I imagine its possible. But I dont like how quiet Ben is half the time, which is why I asked him about his flavor.

The problem is that I have to imagine town has at least one normal power role, or else scum would fall into a trap when claiming.
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Also today was quite busy, but I am trying to compare current Chris to past scumChris (and past townBen to current Ben)
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Death what are the chances that Chris is scum to you?

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Very low, but never nonexistant.

He is right about one thing at least, I cannot really see him and Ben as scum together.
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Leanansidhe posted...

I just don't get the feeling HB is scum. He completely dropped an easy mislynch based on new info (me). Ben is severely underperforming and not trying to figure out the game at all. His reads haven't updated at all since like day two.

Underperforming? How do you quantify that exactly?

For someone who is trying to lynch me by comparing my play this game to last game, you should know that my reads LAST game are the ones that actually didn't change since day 2. Maybe in this game my read on Chris hasnt "changed" from being "Chris is town", but it's actually updating each day with extra reasoning behind that read. Day 1 and 2 he just had genuine sounding posts, and points i agreed with. Day 3 there was the fact that Ulti tried to kill him. Day 4 there was the fact that he was going after Sultan before the scan.

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htaeD posted...

For me, its important to figure out Ben (and Chris by proxy), because it either opens or closes a lot of reads. (Too bad my workday was crazy busy)

Ben, can you paraphrase why your flavor is a protector?

Well that's the problem. It really doesnt say I'm a protector in my flavor. Says I kidnap princesses, hang out with Finn and Jake, and writing fanfiction.

Then my paragraph on ability just explains what my ability does. "As a wizard, _____"

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Fastbreak posted...

Ben is 1000% lieing

Its just is he lieing town or scum

What do you have to say if I tell you I'm not lying. Because I'm not

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benjamin3740 posted...

Well that's the problem. It really doesnt say I'm a protector in my flavor. Says I kidnap princesses, hang out with Finn and Jake, and writing fanfiction.

Then my paragraph on ability just explains what my ability does. "As a wizard, _____"

When did you actually claim wizard portion of your role

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benjamin3740 posted...

What do you have to say if I tell you I'm not lying. Because I'm not

Then this is the worst scum team ever

Or chris is scum

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Hbthebattle posted...

Was it though
I've looked back- Lopen actually wasn't on Chris, so Chris-Lea is 4-4 before, and assuming Ben isn't scum, he probably saves Chris, and even if he isnt he probably does so anyway because he said he trusted Chris enough to permasave him

I'm pretty sure i wasnt here when the votals were that. Or at least didnt know what the votals were. Unless that was well before day ended in which case I probably was letting things play out and see what moves people made.

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Fastbreak posted...

When did you actually claim wizard portion of your role

Whenever i claimed my role on day 2

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Leanansidhe posted...

And what exactly are your current reads other than Chris has been 100% town from the very first post of the game? You've called me scum a lot and done exactly zero things about it.

Day aint over yet. Maybe I should be killing lopen since my POE is basically down to You/lopen or Scare/Lopen


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I've been kinda relying on other people to read Lopen or just leaving him alone tbh because whatever games i did play with him....I don't remember what he was like

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Leanansidhe posted...

Why are HB and Death in The Book again?

I was in the book too

But I looked at Chris funny today and suddenly I'm the leading lynch

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Death was never in any book. Chris basically soul read him so I left him alone despite not liking him. I also left him alone after he claimed receiving a power. The power being nothing kinda made me re-think things, but I also dont see him pulling a nothing power as scum. It's like....too creative?

HB was in the book because he had some really genuine sounding interactions with Chris, and then Chris made a some points on HB being town that I really liked. I honestly don't remember off the top of my head what those points were anymore. Which is bad on me. And I put people in a book specifically so that I CAN put them there and forget, and start ignoring their posts. That's why I threw it away after i was wrong about IGCD

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So for some reason you start with a power, but Huntress wizard has to get one from a Hero?
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Guess I stunned everyone
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I don't like Death's power because I don't feel it makes sense given the setup, and I don't feel he's making an honest attempt at digesting the game, particularly with that power in mind. Like this doesn't make any sense to me as a post from someone who has some sorta Princess Discord power:

htaeD posted...

but I am trying to compare current Chris to past scumChris (and past townBen to current Ben)

Why are you even thinking about scumChris as a realistic possibility? Like Chris is the only person in the game that's claimed a princess role, right? So if he's scum, what then? You can mason with a scum princess? He has an ability that potentially makes him a mason buddy with 1+ scum (the fact that scum could go into that masonry is suspicious to begin with), and no town? That makes wayyy less sense than Ben's weak doctor role. Why aren't you trying to get me to claim flavor harder? I know that's what I'd be doing if I had that power-- like if I'm in your shoes, I'm seeing if Lopen claims a princess, which would inherently feel a bit more credible to give some weight to your power, in an attempt to town clear Lopen.

I see a bunch of weak pawing at suspicions today-- same I've seen all game from you.

##Vote: Death

What say thee?

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I say thee are overreacting.

I didnt realize noone else had claimed princess besides him and me (and IGCD/Ulti but that is besides the point)
Second, I always have Chris paranoia. I feel that is healthy. Thats why I tried to look back at his past scumplay to compare, since he had a lot of red interaction then too.
But now I find that he was more cocky and unapologetic in that game as opposed to here.
Can Chris fake that behavior change? Absolutely. But it pushes me back even further into thinking Chris has to be town, along with all the other points.

Why are you so upset that I am considering every avenue?

Also keep in mind that I have no idea how the discord I have is supposed to work other than giving me access. I only assumed it only worked on recruited princesses.

And I did ask for a massclaim. People said they were gonna do that, but now I see that is not actually happening.. Why arent you claming flavor anyway?
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Like I didnt want to hint at my role text too much, but the way it is worded, this power could also just be a specific Princess Bubblegum thing. I have no guarantee that I was supposed to see more princesses on there. Though it does seem like a gimmick the game would go for, what with a scumprincess.

(and technically, scum could safely claim whatever they want now that the heroes are presumedly dead)
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Drawing scum into a masonry is not suspicious anyway, its happened plenty of times before, and its not really called a masonry to begin with. The channel is probably supposed to work that way, (I cant be certain, but it makes more sense than a channel only I can see) so if Chris is the only town princess besides me. I believe that does confirm him.
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(I will give you kudos for being the first to bring it up.)
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Oh. Neat!

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Now watch Scare claim Flame Princess or something

(I forgot if he did already claim something..
Did HB?)

Anyway, I am out for tonight. Should be more available tomorrow.
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Votals
[2] Scare - Chris, Ben
[1] Ben - (Chris), HB, (Lea)
[1] Chris - (Lea), Scare
[1] Lopen - Lea
[1] Death - Lopen
[0] Lea - (Ben)

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It's less that scum can go into the masonry and more that scum are HALF of what goes into the masonry, which is stupid. However if the idea of it being a princess masonry is all speculation then who knows if that even matters. I don't know this character-- is there a thematic mason grouping the Princess would have other than other princesses? Like right now if we assume it's just princesses

I feel like Han just tossing you in a Discord server and telling you literally nothing is a bit weird though. Especially the claim that you said he gave you no response at all when you asked if you had a night action. Shouldn't you have gotten an updated role PM like happened with 5tar and MZero that gave you some sort of hint of how things operate? What did your role name change from and to?

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Lopen posted...

Like right now if we assume it's just princesses

.. it doesn't make sense at all really"

Lopen is scatterbrained a bit

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htaeD posted...

Now watch Scare claim Flame Princess or something

(I forgot if he did already claim something..
Did HB?)

Anyway, I am out for tonight. Should be more available tomorrow.

Not a Princess here.
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Leanansidhe posted...

Some of the powers being useless could be another hedge against unchecked hero powers.

I feel like being able to hit scum would be enough of a hedge that you shouldn't need it? Especially since all the skills aren't super good from what we've seen (bodyguard is one of the weaker protects and tracker is one of the weaker scans)

I mean who knows I guess this is indeed a very rng setup no matter how you slice it

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htaeD posted...

Now watch Scare claim Flame Princess or something

(I forgot if he did already claim something..
Did HB?)

Anyway, I am out for tonight. Should be more available tomorrow.

I'm Susan

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It's why I thought I could be a flavor Miller because susan strong as strongman just sounded like a thing I would do as a host

Also why I expected to be a vig

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htaeD posted...

So for some reason you start with a power, but Huntress wizard has to get one from a Hero?

Man I dunno. I dont make the game. What's funny is that this is two games in a row now where I've had an untrustworthy role, claimed it day 2, and was completely honest about it. But no one believed me. Maybe in the future I should just be claiming vanilla as town power too! It's the role I thrive in anyway

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Well now I cant vote Lea or we'll have a disgusting 6-way split.

Lea should I be killing Lopen or Scare?

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Leanansidhe posted...

Lopen, of course. He's in both of your PoEs, he hasn't claimed, and I'm voting him.

Duh

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Good point.

Well argued.

##Unvote
##Vote: Lopen


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That was a gimmie answer and a dumb question ben

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I'm mainly interested in how serious Lea is with the Lopen vote. If she's actually wanting to kill Lopen or just distancing herself.

Looking back at your vote, the only reason you cited is "Lopenfear". What exactly does that mean? And do you see Scare as town?

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If you're voting me to see how serious Lea is with the Lopen vote why did you ask her who to vote first?

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