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Trickfinger
01/19/20 1:15:34 PM
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Are u?


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MarthGoomba
01/19/20 1:16:25 PM
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It couldn't have gone in a worse direction
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Trickfinger
01/19/20 1:23:08 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
It couldn't have gone in a worse direction

Agreed honestly. It's a joke
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hockeybub89
01/19/20 1:23:56 PM
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Gaming has been great for like 30 years, outside of a couple years of gunmetal gray and brown COD clones oversaturating the market.

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Jabodie
01/19/20 1:24:58 PM
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Well there are bad apples that get a lot of attention, but I literally so not have the time or money to keep up with the slew of quality titles that are constantly being released.

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BroodRyu
01/19/20 1:25:15 PM
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Games are pretty impressive, but I think were focusing too hard on open world. Open world sounds great on paper, but very few companies can pull it off without it turning into games packed with near useless collectibles and repetitive side quests.
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IloveJesus
01/19/20 1:29:25 PM
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I can pick modern things in gaming that I'm not a fan of (focus on online play, empty open worlds, etc) or popular series that I don't like (CoD, Souls, etc), but the fact is, there's always been elements of gaming that haven't appealed to me because there's a much wider target audience than just myself. There's always been things I'll enjoy and things I won't and I don't see that ever changing.

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 1:30:16 PM
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AAA gaming? Sure, it's a bloated wasteland, trash heap, etc.

It's been AMAZING for indie since Braid broke out. Or was it Super Meat Boy that hit it big first?

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Gakk86
01/19/20 1:33:05 PM
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Honestly, using "video games" as a comprehensive genre anymore is disingenuous and misleading. Video games are everywhere now, and totally unable to be encapsulated as one thing. AAA gaming is fucking awful for everybody involved and needs a massive change. Indie gaming is thriving and producing more amazing gems than anybody could ever play. Mobile gaming is racing ahead and being a part of most people's everyday lives. You can also further subdivide all of those categories into more, and then divide them again, as well.

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Trickfinger
01/19/20 1:34:42 PM
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Guys, no one cares that much about indie gaming. I'm obvi referring to real games.
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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 1:46:16 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
Guys, no one cares that much about indie gaming. I'm obvi referring to real games.

Look at this casual scum, thinking he knows what a real game is.

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Trickfinger
01/19/20 8:14:03 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Look at this casual scum, thinking he knows what a real game is.
name one great indie game

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hockeybub89
01/19/20 8:16:22 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
name one great indie game
The Binding of Isaac

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Darmik
01/19/20 8:17:23 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
name one great indie game

Disco Elysium was the best reviewed game of last year

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Pancake
01/19/20 8:17:46 PM
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undertale won that gamefaqs contest
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EverDownward
01/19/20 8:18:24 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
It couldn't have gone in a worse direction


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Antifar
01/19/20 8:19:30 PM
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I'm enjoying games now as much as ever
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CasualGuy
01/19/20 8:20:02 PM
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I would gladly take a big cut in graphics and lighting engines and facial animations and all that for more of a focus on gameplay, couch co-op and replayability.

Like look at rdr1 vs 2. 2 looks fucking amazing. But it's almost too good looking I end up missing a bunch of stuff. Rdr1 looks like a video game and is objectively worse but I like it better

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Darmik
01/19/20 8:21:25 PM
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If you legit think that modern gaming is worse than ever you are probably more of an issue than the games. There's more stuff than ever to play.

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hockeybub89
01/19/20 8:22:43 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
I would gladly take a big cut in graphics and lighting engines and facial animations and all that for more of a focus on gameplay, couch co-op and replayability.
I still don't understand what this means. Consciously making 3D games look worse would take even more effort and focus. I feel like we overestimate how much it takes to make good graphics anymore.

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hockeybub89
01/19/20 8:23:39 PM
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Spooking posted...
AAA games are going downhill because they mainly care about graphics and yearly releases, but great indie games are being releases all the time.
There is like 1 series that isn't sports that pumps games out yearly and 3 studios take turns making those games.

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CasualGuy
01/19/20 8:24:10 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Consciously making 3D games look worse would take even more effort and focus

Wat


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Trickfinger
01/19/20 8:27:20 PM
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Darmik posted...
If you legit think that modern gaming is worse than ever you are probably more of an issue than the games. There's more stuff than ever to play.
just like how music is better than ever because theres soo uch to choose from rite?

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Darmik
01/19/20 8:30:09 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
just like how music is better than ever because theres soo uch to choose from rite?

ok boomer

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ultimate reaver
01/19/20 8:33:42 PM
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fun games still come out and i still play them. there is way too much going on in my life and way too many more important things out there for me to get mad at lootboxes or whatever shit people are complaining about now

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hockeybub89
01/19/20 8:33:43 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
Wat
The engines have evolved. Any decent dev could make a modern looking game with their eyes closed.

Not that I really understand what "X game with worse graphics and better gameplay" means exactly. Everyone doesn't work on every part of a game and programming is already a giant chunk of game development focus and costs. There's not this slider you can adjust that just gives you "more gameplay".

We bitch when games give you too many mechanics or random activities anyway. Should every game be a living, breathing open world full of pure, uninhibited choice? What does "more of a focus on gameplay" mean to Doom or Uncharted or a fighting game? Does it mean complexity?

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Trickfinger
01/19/20 8:34:09 PM
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Darmik posted...
ok boomer
ok zoomer

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El Mexicano Texano
01/19/20 8:34:48 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
name one great indie game
Rocket League

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hockeybub89
01/19/20 8:42:19 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
just like how music is better than ever because theres soo uch to choose from rite?
Yeah. Anyone who says "music" is bad needs to finally expand beyond FM radio.

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MrMallard
01/19/20 8:42:21 PM
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On one hand, game development is easier than ever for anyone to jump into and that's led to a lot of excellent throwback titles like Stardew Valley. These are experiences that are hard to come by as the gaming space keep evolving. I haven't played Descenders, but it looks like Downhill Domination minus the combat aspects - just focusing on racing downhill at incredible speeds.

But the AAA space is lacking, because everything has to be pushing the envelope for realism and immersion. We saw this problem emerge in the 7th gen of consoles with games like GTA4 and 5 - incredible games in their own right, but incredibly resource-intensive. The time frame between game releases is getting further and further away because of this.

Nowadays, you have one open-world game dominating the genre at a time - and that game is Grand Theft Auto. The 7th gen had competitors like Saints Row which kept the selection fresh, as well as a hearty dose of failures. Same with FPS games - the 7th gen had so many third party FPS or third-person shooters to go around. Now you have your big players and that's about it. Modern open world games feel like even crustier Metal Gear Solid 5 clones, like the Ghost Recon games. Far Cry is in the trash. The AAA market is dominated by a handful of big titles by the biggest businesses, and while there are some indie and AA studios filling the gaps along with ports, those big game experiences that came out to compete with your CoDs and GTAs are all but gone now. I don't think there'll ever be another GTA competitor for years, if ever, because the barrier for entry (read: budget) keeps getting higher and higher.

That's not even taking microtransactions into account. Modern games tend to be pretty cohesive experiences on their own, but countless amounts of games sabotage themselves and sell you the cure to their dysfunction. Those games are going to be all but unplayable in another 30 years, and it's not slowing down. This started with the 7th generation, but it's only been getting worse over time.

I appreciate the rise in quality, from indie titles as well as AAA titles, but the road games have been on since the 2010's is not a good one.

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 8:45:23 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
name one great indie game

The Basement Collection
The Binding of Isaac
BIT.TRIP RUNNER
Chroma Squad
Curses n' Chaos
Darkest Dungeon
Deponia
Dex
Don't Starve (Together)
Door Kickers (Action Squad)
Downwell
Electronic Super Joy
Emily is Away (Too)
FTL
Fist Puncher
Frozen Synapse
Gunpoint
Hidden Folks
Hotline Miami (2)
Hyper Light Drifter
I am Bread
Jazzpunk
Kairo
Katana ZERO
Kentucky Route Zero
Kingdom (New Lands)
LOVE
LUFTRAUSERS
Magicka
Momodora
NEO Scavenger
Nidhogg (2)
Night in the Woods
NO THING
One Finger Death Punch
Oniken
Owlboy
Papers, Please
Party Hard (2)
Race The Sun
Reigns
Risk of Rain (2)
Rochard
Shelter (2)
Shovel Knight
Space Engineers
Sunless Sea (Sky)
Super House of Dead Ninja
Super Meat Boy
Surgeon Simulator
Taimumari
Tales of Maj'Eyal
Technobabylon
Terraria
This War of Mine
Tiny and Big
Titan Souls
Trine (2/3/4?)
Undertale
VA-11 Hall-A
Viscera Cleanup Detail
Volgarr the Viking
VVVVVV
Westerado: Double Barreled

And that's only in my library.

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Trickfinger
01/19/20 8:46:38 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
The Basement Collection
The Binding of Isaac
BIT.TRIP RUNNER
Chroma Squad
Curses n' Chaos
Darkest Dungeon
Deponia
Dex
Don't Starve (Together)
Door Kickers (Action Squad)
Downwell
Electronic Super Joy
Emily is Away (Too)
FTL
Fist Puncher
Frozen Synapse
Gunpoint
Hidden Folks
Hotline Miami (2)
Hyper Light Drifter
I am Bread
Jazzpunk
Kairo
Katana ZERO
Kentucky Route Zero
Kingdom (New Lands)
LOVE
LUFTRAUSERS
Magicka
Momodora
NEO Scavenger
Nidhogg (2)
Night in the Woods
NO THING
One Finger Death Punch
Oniken
Owlboy
Papers, Please
Party Hard (2)
Race The Sun
Reigns
Risk of Rain (2)
Rochard
Shelter (2)
Shovel Knight
Space Engineers
Sunless Sea (Sky)
Super House of Dead Ninja
Super Meat Boy
Surgeon Simulator
Taimumari
Tales of Maj'Eyal
Technobabylon
Terraria
This War of Mine
Tiny and Big
Titan Souls
Trine (2/3/4?)
Undertale
VA-11 Hall-A
Viscera Cleanup Detail
Volgarr the Viking
VVVVVV
Westerado: Double Barreled

And that's only in my library.
which explains why Ive never heard of any of these.

guys a game cant be GREAT if the average person hasnt even heard of it.

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 8:47:24 PM
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Ugh, average people. Not fit to bleed under my horse-drawn carriage.

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Trickfinger
01/19/20 8:47:56 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Ugh, average people. Not fit to bleed under my horse-drawn carriage.
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IloveJesus
01/20/20 1:49:07 AM
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Trickfinger posted...
which explains why Ive never heard of any of these.

guys a game cant be GREAT if the average person hasnt even heard of it.

That's ridiculous.

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apolloooo
01/20/20 1:53:04 AM
#37:


Evening_Dragon posted...
AAA gaming? Sure, it's a bloated wasteland, trash heap, etc.

It's been AMAZING for indie since Braid broke out. Or was it Super Meat Boy that hit it big first?


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ThanksUglyGod
01/20/20 2:05:50 AM
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Trickfinger posted...
name one great indie game
Pokemon Shield Version
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Delirious_Beard
01/20/20 2:11:40 AM
#39:


Trickfinger posted...
Guys, no one cares that much about indie gaming. I'm obvi referring to real games.

yuck

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viewmaster_pi
01/20/20 2:13:56 AM
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absolutely yes sir, love lootbox gambling and premium currencies on top of my 60 dollar game

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gguirao
01/20/20 3:07:52 AM
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Mostly. It's my favorite hobby, but it can sometimes get addicting.

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masterbarf
01/20/20 3:18:35 AM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
AAA gaming's a bloated wasteland, trash heap, etc.

It's been AMAZING for indie
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Smackems
01/20/20 3:20:03 AM
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I'm tired of checklist boring cookie cutter open worlds

I'm tired of gigantic patches

I'm tired of everyone breathing so hard all the time in dialogue

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SH_expert44
01/20/20 3:27:51 AM
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Microtransactions, battle passes and games as a service has really fucked things up recently.

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Trickfinger
01/21/20 12:20:29 AM
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Bump
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thronedfire2
01/21/20 12:21:20 AM
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I'm a PC gamer so I ignore all the drama and play the good games a year or two later

but Microsoft is gonna be making PC gaming very sexy soon.

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Trickfinger
01/21/20 12:46:06 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I'm a PC gamer so I ignore all the drama and play the good games a year or two later

but Microsoft is gonna be making PC gaming very sexy soon.

How..
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apocalyptic_4
01/21/20 12:50:22 AM
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Shooters peaked between 08 and maybe 2010.

Back then shooters ft unique across game series. Everything else out now though is superior.

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