Current Events > NYT literally posted a column from a white supremacist thinktank

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Metal_Bomberman
01/17/20 12:47:22 PM
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not gonna link it

but the thinktank is the center for "immigration" studies

Which is white supremacist in nature

highly impressed with how bad the NYT opinion column continues to be

there was also the bootlicking column by David Brooks

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WolfFangHowell
01/17/20 12:50:23 PM
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"I....cant.....handle......facts......"

Dudes are scummy, but at least TRY.

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RebelElite791
01/17/20 12:51:34 PM
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Not great.

WolfFangHowell posted...
"I....cant.....handle......facts......"

Dudes are scummy, but at least TRY.
Literally a far-right group founded by a white supremacist. But what do I expect coming from someone with a sig making fun of a murdered black man.

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Questionmarktarius
01/17/20 12:53:22 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Literally a far-right group founded by a white supremacist.
This checks out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies
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TheMikh
01/17/20 12:56:05 PM
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regardless of how you feel about immigration, the claim that the think tank was founded by a white nationalist is indeed true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies

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WolfFangHowell
01/17/20 1:02:54 PM
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You guys are wikipedia searching this just like TC did, from his phrasing.

Attack something being said here, deny a statistic, show something to the contrary. Kinda wild.

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Wewillrocku
01/17/20 1:04:26 PM
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that's almost certainly because news reporters are different from federally trained investigators, and one of them (guess which) doesn't know what they're doing.

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Sad_Face
01/17/20 1:06:23 PM
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Just post the Opinion piece. I just finished watching an interview of James Goldsmith predicting that free trade will cause unemployment rates to skyrocket due to US corporations moving their operations overseas for cheaper employment thereby killing jobs in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s

Our economic problems, barring the college and healthcare debt issues, stem from what he speaks about here.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/17/20 1:10:17 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Just post the Opinion piece. I just finished watching an interview of James Goldsmith predicting that free trade will cause unemployment rates to skyrocket due to US corporations moving their operations overseas for cheaper employment thereby killing jobs in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s

Our economic problems, barring the college and healthcare debt issues, stem from what he speaks about here.
lol that aged terribly

protectionist are so dumb
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Solar_Crimson
01/17/20 1:14:16 PM
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WolfFangHowell posted...

Who's alt is this?

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Questionmarktarius
01/17/20 1:14:56 PM
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WolfFangHowell posted...
You guys are wikipedia searching this just like TC did, from his phrasing.
Even if the "white supremacist!" claim is a bit sketchy, the bits about eugenics have been established independent of wikipedia.

Eugenics itself is a huge can of selectively-bred worms.
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WolfFangHowell
01/17/20 1:16:22 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Who's alt is this?

Come on now, dont double down here on being whiney. Use your words. If its a white supremacy thing, it should be easy to disprove. Get in there.

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Metua
01/17/20 1:17:50 PM
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Hop103
01/17/20 1:25:58 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

lol that aged terribly

protectionist are so dumb


Protectionism is what we need in this day and age, TPP and similar treaties will be the death of us.
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TheMikh
01/17/20 1:37:10 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol that aged terribly

protectionist are so dumb

from a laissez faire standpoint protectionism is economically suboptimal, but there are indeed domestic tradeoffs, the balance with benefits of which are not always proportional or uniform for lack of better words

never mind that "free trade" in the (geo)political context seldom refers to literal free trade, but complex legal agreements, often drafted with significant input by the multinationals that stand to benefit

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Bishop9800
01/17/20 1:41:39 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
But what do I expect coming from someone with a sig making fun of a murdered black man.


This

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Questionmarktarius
01/17/20 1:43:35 PM
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TheMikh posted...
never mind that "free trade" in the (geo)political context seldom refers to literal free trade, but complex legal agreements, often drafted with significant input by the multinationals that stand to benefit
Regulatory capture is just an inevitability of regulation.
The only exception is when any given regulation begins captured, by design.
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Solar_Crimson
01/17/20 1:43:46 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
This
I also can't find a source on when Brock Lesnar or whoever even said that when plugging it into Google (the only three links lead back to his GameFAQs sig).

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Bishop9800
01/17/20 1:47:16 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
I also can't find a source on when Brock Lesnar or whoever even said that when plugging it into Google (the only three links lead back to his GameFAQs sig).
That makes it even worse

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Shablagoo
01/17/20 1:52:37 PM
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WolfFangHowell posted...
You guys are wikipedia searching this just like TC did, from his phrasing.

Attack something being said here, deny a statistic, show something to the contrary. Kinda wild.

I dont even know what the claim being made is; I cant seem to find the article. What is being said?

P.S. His name is spelled Emmett

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Sad_Face
01/17/20 11:55:32 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol that aged terribly

protectionist are so dumb

@Broseph_Stalin care to elaborate? The present of corporations expanding the economy at the expense of wages going down and unemployment skyrocketing is exactly the future he predicted.

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Evening_Dragon
01/18/20 12:00:16 AM
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I'm not saying the Immigration Services thing is or isn't still white supremacist; I don't know. But simply having bad origins doesn't mean it's still bad. The guy who laid much of the groundwork for modern LGBTQ theory also argued for pedophilia. We can take the good and filter out the bad.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/18/20 12:04:39 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
The present of corporations expanding the economy at the expense of wages going down and unemployment skyrocketing is exactly the future he predicted.
unemployment skyrocketing lmao

the unemployment rate was nearly twice as high as it is today when he gave that interview, the exact opposite happened
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C_Pain
01/18/20 12:06:22 AM
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Is this one of those "platforming!!!!11" complaints then?

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Smashingpmkns
01/18/20 12:06:32 AM
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"I'm a liberal who thinks immigration must be restricted"

Dudes obviously lying
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SH_expert44
01/18/20 12:07:41 AM
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So they are posting incorrect information as fact?

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Sad_Face
01/18/20 12:22:40 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
the unemployment rate was nearly twice as high as it is today when he gave that interview, the exact opposite happened
They are using so many different criteria to ignore as many people as possible to downplay the unemployment rate, using things like, "must be actively looking for a job within the past 3 months" or so. You can't go up to a company's doorstep, hand in your resum with a firm handshake to get a job nowadays (I admit, I did this by being like ants on sugar, didn't last that long at the job). What are you talking about?

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Broseph_Stalin
01/18/20 12:24:41 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
They are using so many different criteria to ignore as many people as possible to downplay the unemployment rate, using things like, "must be actively looking for a job within the past 3 months" or so

"fake news" is not an argument. next time you post some dumb prediction from a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about, check to see if it actually came true or not first
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MrMallard
01/18/20 12:27:16 AM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
The guy who laid much of the groundwork for modern LGBTQ theory also argued for pedophilia

Press X to Doubt

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Sad_Face
01/18/20 12:32:35 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
"fake news" is not an argument. next time you post some dumb prediction from a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about, check to see if it actually came true or not first
It's not fake news, statistics downplay the unemployment rate like crazy. We literally have a movie on Netflix, a documentary about bringing manufacturing back to the US, "American Factory". Part of what put Trump in office is because of people wanting a solution for the loss jobs in manufacturing.

Tell me, how is he wrong? How have wages NOT stagnated? How has moving operations overseas to China NOT stolen jobs from the US?

Do note, I study some of this, investing, as a hobby and I've come to learn that service is not infinite. There's only so many dollars available to push around and easier processes will absorb the money from more expensive processes. For instance, Amazon has stolen a metric ton of money (or rather money has been transferred to Amazon) from traditional outlets congregates like malls. In the future, smart contracts are going to absorb a ton of jobs, like the trust assurance industry where you need to transfer assets of high value.

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Evening_Dragon
01/18/20 12:34:54 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Press X to Doubt

Hey, if you can show me otherwise, I would be delighted. I always hate it when authors of good work end up involved in some fucked up shit.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/18/20 12:51:17 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
It's not fake news, statistics downplay the unemployment rate like crazy.

The government uses multiple measurements of unemployment or labor underutilization. The most frequently cited, the official number, is U-3 which measures the unemployed as a percent of the labor force. That statistic was measured the exact same way in 1994 as it is today, and shows lower unemployment.

If for whatever reason you don't like that measurement there is U-6 which counts underemployment as unemployment. That rate is also lower today, there is literally no measurement of unemployment that shows a higher number than in 1994. He was dead wrong on free trade.

I would not waste any time arguing online or investing until you have a better understanding of economics.
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Questionmarktarius
01/18/20 6:53:19 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
For instance, Amazon has stolen a metric ton of money (or rather money has been transferred to Amazon) from traditional outlets congregates like malls.
That's just the "better mousetrap" axiom, in action.
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Shablagoo
01/18/20 10:56:54 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
The government uses multiple measurements of unemployment or labor underutilization. The most frequently cited, the official number, is U-3 which measures the unemployed as a percent of the labor force. That statistic was measured the exact same way in 1994 as it is today, and shows lower unemployment.

If for whatever reason you don't like that measurement there is U-6 which counts underemployment as unemployment. That rate is also lower today, there is literally no measurement of unemployment that shows a higher number than in 1994. He was dead wrong on free trade.

I would not waste any time arguing online or investing until you have a better understanding of economics.

I bet you think world poverty has been cut in half since 2016, too.

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Bio1590
01/18/20 11:15:50 AM
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This seems to be happening a lot these days
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