Current Events > YouTuber who trained gf's pet pug to give Nazi salutes has appeal rejected.

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Kraidette 12/13/19 5:42:49 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1205085464056737792 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/youtuber-who-trained-girlfriends-pet-21081321 A YouTuber who trained his girlfriend's dog to give Nazi salutes and was convicted of hate crime has had his appeal rejected by the Supreme Court. Markus Meechan, 32, who uses the nickname Count Dankula, was prosecuted after teaching the dog, a pug named Buddha, to perform the offensive gesture. He was convicted of a hate crime in communicating a video which was "grossly offensive" after denying the charge at a trial at Airdrie Sheriff Court. In April 2018 Meechan was given a fine of 800 and was told to pay it within six months, but he publicly stated he would refuse to do so. Meechan, of Coatbridge, North Lanarkshire, taught the pug to react to the words "gas the Jews" and filmed it for his YouTube channel in 2017, supposedly to annoy his girlfriend. The dog was also seen raising a paw to fascist chant "Sieg Heil" during the footage called "M8 Yur Dug's a Nazi" which was viewed more than three million times. The case created a debate around freedom of speech, with comedians such as Ricky Gervais speaking out on Meechan's behalf. Far-right leader Tommy Robinson attended the trial in support. About 195,657 was raised on a GoFundMe page to take the appeal to the Supreme Court, which rejected it saying it had "no merit", according to Meehan. The man, who has since married his girlfriend, is now considering taking the case to the European Court of Human Rights. He wrote: "As some of you may be aware, we petitioned to the UK Supreme Court to hear our case, a process that took very many months to hear back from and sadly we have received news back that they have refused to hear the case. "The reason they cited is that my appeal "had no merit" but as of yet, they have provided no information as to specifically why this is. "After this step we have one final option, the European Court Of Human Rights. "One hundred per cent of the remaining funds that are left over after legal fees have been paid WILL be donated to charity, I refuse to shift on that stance. "Ideally I would like to see the funds go to a children's hospital." --- You're not a GameFAQs Diamond member. You must be a GameFAQs Diamond member to view this signature. <cite>Kraidette posted [p:931545631] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1205085464056737792 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/youtuber-who-trained-girlfriends-pet-21081321 A YouTuber who trained his girlfriend's dog to give Nazi salutes and was convicted of hate crime has had his appeal rejected by the Supreme Court. Markus Meechan, 32, who uses the nickname Count Dankula, was prosecuted after teaching the dog, a pug named Buddha, to perform the offensive gesture. He was convicted of a hate crime in communicating a video which was "grossly offensive" after denying the charge at a trial at Airdrie Sheriff Court. In April 2018 Meechan was given a fine of 800 and was told to pay it within six months, but he publicly stated he would refuse to do so. Meechan, of Coatbridge, North Lanarkshire, taught the pug to react to the words "gas the Jews" and filmed it for his YouTube channel in 2017, supposedly to annoy his girlfriend. The dog was also seen raising a paw to fascist chant "Sieg Heil" during the footage called "M8 Yur Dug's a Nazi" which was viewed more than three million times. The case created a debate around freedom of speech, with comedians such as Ricky Gervais speaking out on Meechan's behalf. Far-right leader Tommy Robinson attended the trial in support. About 195,657 was raised on a GoFundMe page to take the appeal to the Supreme Court, which rejected it saying it had "no merit", according to Meehan. The man, who has since married his girlfriend, is now considering taking the case to the European Court of Human Rights. He wrote: "As some of you may be aware, we petitioned to the UK Supreme Court to hear our case, a process that took very many months to hear back from and sadly we have received news back that they have refused to hear the case. "The reason they cited is that my appeal "had no merit" but as of yet, they have provided no information as to specifically why this is. "After this step we have one final option, the European Court Of Human Rights. "One hundred per cent of the remaining funds that are left over after legal fees have been paid WILL be donated to charity, I refuse to shift on that stance. "Ideally I would like to see the funds go to a children's hospital." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 5:48:07 PM #2:	That's unfortunate. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931545880] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>That's unfortunate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/13/19 5:49:34 PM #3:	Play stupid games win stupid prizes --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:931545946] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Play stupid games win stupid prizes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/13/19 5:49:36 PM #4:	Esrac posted... That's unfortunate. No it isn't. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:931545949] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>That's unfortunate. </quote> No it isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 12/13/19 5:54:27 PM #6:	It may have been a joke in poor taste, but it being a criminal act is a massive overreach of government power --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:931546158] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>It may have been a joke in poor taste, but it being a criminal act is a massive overreach of government power</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:07:38 PM #7:	OctilIery posted... No it isn't. If you think a person should be legally prosecuted because of a joke, you're an asshole. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931546653] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>No it isn't.</quote> If you think a person should be legally prosecuted because of a joke, you're an asshole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 12/13/19 6:08:14 PM #8:	Either he's getting exactly what he deserve, or he's someone who made a very, very, very stupid joke that failed to read the room(and honestly probably still deserves this if only so he learns not to do it again). Either way, I don't feel sorry for him. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:931546672] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Either he's getting exactly what he deserve, or he's someone who made a very, very, very stupid joke that failed to read the room(and honestly probably still deserves this if only so he learns not to do it again). Either way, I don't feel sorry for him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dib153 12/13/19 6:08:14 PM #9:	Pics of Nazi dog --- "Dib is my new hero. Epic insult man, epic to the max" ~ Drakona <cite>dib153 posted [p:931546673] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Pics of Nazi dog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 12/13/19 6:10:12 PM #11:	Thank God for the Revolutionary War and the Bill of Rights. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:931546745] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Thank God for the Revolutionary War and the Bill of Rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/13/19 6:11:55 PM #12:	"I'd like to see the money go to a children's hospital" Why not like... an organization dedicated to raising awareness about anti-semitism and the Holocaust or something relevant? Don't get me wrong, at least the guy's promising to give the money to a worthwhile cause, but he doesn't really seem repentant about the idea that he's teaching dogs Nazi salutes and shit... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] An 800 GBP fine. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 91 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:931546809] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>"I'd like to see the money go to a children's hospital" Why not like... an organization dedicated to raising awareness about anti-semitism and the Holocaust or something relevant? Don't get me wrong, at least the guy's promising to give the money to a worthwhile cause, but he doesn't really seem repentant about the idea that he's teaching dogs Nazi salutes and shit... <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> An 800 GBP fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 12/13/19 6:12:16 PM #13:	He shouldn't be responsible for what a dog does --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:931546821] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>He shouldn't be responsible for what a dog does </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 12/13/19 6:12:48 PM #14:	Doom_Art posted... Play stupid games win stupid prizes This. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:931546839] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Play stupid games win stupid prizes</quote> This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/13/19 6:13:22 PM #15:	ironic that he teaches nazi stuff to a dog and wants to appeal to court of human rights. <cite>Zikten posted [p:931546857] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>ironic that he teaches nazi stuff to a dog and wants to appeal to court of human rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 12/13/19 6:13:25 PM #16:	Dude is a straight up Nazi, and from what I know Britain cracks down on offensive content/hate speech. Fuck him and his racist bullshit --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:931546862] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Dude is a straight up Nazi, and from what I know Britain cracks down on offensive content/hate speech. Fuck him and his racist bullshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/13/19 6:13:57 PM #17:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... He shouldn't be responsible for what a dog does I mean he is responsible for what the dog did. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:931546882] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted... </cite> <quote>He shouldn't be responsible for what a dog does</quote> I mean he is responsible for what the dog did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 12/13/19 6:14:17 PM #18:	Spooking posted... Thank GOD we have Freedom of Expression here in the good ol' US of A. For now. I don't think progressives will ever have any real power in this country because they believe in hate speech laws. I could be wrong though. <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:931546903] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted... </cite> <quote>Thank GOD we have Freedom of Expression here in the good ol' US of A.</quote>For now. I don't think progressives will ever have any real power in this country because they believe in hate speech laws. I could be wrong though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/13/19 6:14:18 PM #19:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... He shouldn't be responsible for what a dog does the dog would never do that if he hadn't trained it to do it. that wasn't a natural actions of a dog now, the dog doesn't know what it's doing or understand the meaning. so it better be ok still. I'd be mad if the UK government took the dog away and killed it <cite>Zikten posted [p:931546904] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted... </cite> <quote>He shouldn't be responsible for what a dog does</quote>the dog would never do that if he hadn't trained it to do it. that wasn't a natural actions of a dog now, the dog doesn't know what it's doing or understand the meaning. so it better be ok still. I'd be mad if the UK government took the dog away and killed it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 12/13/19 6:14:36 PM #20:	dib153 posted... Pics of Nazi dog [LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- My mind is an open book, do you find it entertaining? At least be original in your responses then. "Don't call me a God, call me a Sadist" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:931546924] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>dib153 posted... </cite> <quote>Pics of Nazi dog</quote> <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 12/13/19 6:15:17 PM #21:	Blue_Dream87 posted... Fuck him and his racist bullshit this. though i thought the pug thing was funny but it's offensive :(. --- The act of treachery is an art, but the traitor himself is a piece of **** - Mike Tyson <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:931546952] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>Fuck him and his racist bullshit </quote> this. though i thought the pug thing was funny but it's offensive :(.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 12/13/19 6:15:46 PM #22:	Its edgy, but totally not deserving of a crime charge. This is nonesense, what a timeline indeed. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 <cite>Prestoff posted [p:931546975] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Its edgy, but totally not deserving of a crime charge. This is nonesense, what a timeline indeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 12/13/19 6:16:33 PM #24:	Also didn't one of the Princes dress up in a Nazi uniform for a holiday party a few years back? Was he charged with any crimes for that? --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 91 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:931547005] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Also didn't one of the Princes dress up in a Nazi uniform for a holiday party a few years back? Was he charged with any crimes for that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 12/13/19 6:16:40 PM #25:	Zikten posted... the dog would never do that if he hadn't trained it to do it. that wasn't a natural actions of a dog now, the dog doesn't know what it's doing or understand the meaning. so it better be ok still. I'd be mad if the UK government took the dog away and killed it Dogs are people too --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:931547011] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>the dog would never do that if he hadn't trained it to do it. that wasn't a natural actions of a dog now, the dog doesn't know what it's doing or understand the meaning. so it better be ok still. I'd be mad if the UK government took the dog away and killed it</quote> Dogs are people too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 12/13/19 6:17:15 PM #26:	Doom_Art posted... Play stupid games win stupid prizes You can't honestly be for this --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:931547027] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Play stupid games win stupid prizes</quote> You can't honestly be for this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:17:31 PM #27:	Listen to count dankula speak for himself and decide whether or not you think hes racist He just soound like some funny drunk scottish dude, he seems hamrmless --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547040] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Listen to count dankula speak for himself and decide whether or not you think hes racist He just soound like some funny drunk scottish dude, he seems hamrmless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rhylos 12/13/19 6:18:27 PM #28:	Honestly he should've just paid the fine and be done with it. I get he wants to make a statement but eh <cite>Rhylos posted [p:931547077] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Honestly he should've just paid the fine and be done with it. I get he wants to make a statement but eh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 12/13/19 6:19:17 PM #29:	WizardPowers posted... You can't honestly be for this For it? No. But if the guy was stupid enough to think there might not be some kind of blowback, I don't have a lot of sympathy. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:931547110] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>You can't honestly be for this</quote> For it? No. But if the guy was stupid enough to think there might not be some kind of blowback, I don't have a lot of sympathy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 12/13/19 6:19:27 PM #30:	Love all the people in this topic who cry fascism at the slightest provocation also in full favor of government policing YouTube. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:931547120] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Love all the people in this topic who cry fascism at the slightest provocation also in full favor of government policing YouTube. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:20:22 PM #31:	ThePrinceFish posted... Love all the people in this topic who cry fascism at the slightest provocation also in full favor of government policing YouTube. How else can we fix these issues --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547159] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Love all the people in this topic who cry fascism at the slightest provocation also in full favor of government policing YouTube. </quote> How else can we fix these issues</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 12/13/19 6:20:51 PM #32:	GoodOlJr posted... How else can we fix these issues What issue exists here? That some guy made an unfunny joke? Oh shit someone call the constabulary. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:931547179] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>How else can we fix these issues</quote>What issue exists here? That some guy made an unfunny joke? Oh shit someone call the constabulary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:20:54 PM #33:	Blue_Dream87 posted... Dude is a straight up Nazi, and from what I know Britain cracks down on offensive content/hate speech. Fuck him and his racist bullshit No. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931547181] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Dream87 posted... </cite> <quote>Dude is a straight up Nazi, and from what I know Britain cracks down on offensive content/hate speech. Fuck him and his racist bullshit</quote> No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 12/13/19 6:21:47 PM #34:	Honestly the people going "Omg, it's just a joke. This is too harsh." Welcome to the chosen future. This is what happens when we apply "Just let them talk" to actual Nazis(Not saying this dude is one. He could just be a dumbass). This is what happens when you try to both sides people who want genocide and the people protesting them. There's no more "jokes" since we've seen people who aren't joking do this and do much more. Too bad for the edgelords out there. Could have lived in a timeline where this didn't have to happen. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:931547218] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Honestly the people going "Omg, it's just a joke. This is too harsh." Welcome to the chosen future. This is what happens when we apply "Just let them talk" to actual Nazis(Not saying this dude is one. He could just be a dumbass). This is what happens when you try to both sides people who want genocide and the people protesting them. There's no more "jokes" since we've seen people who aren't joking do this and do much more. Too bad for the edgelords out there. Could have lived in a timeline where this didn't have to happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:23:08 PM #36:	ThePrinceFish posted... What issue exists here? That some guy made an unfunny joke? Oh shit someone call the constabulary. Free speech existing as an idea --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547287] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote> What issue exists here? That some guy made an unfunny joke? Oh shit someone call the constabulary. </quote> Free speech existing as an idea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:23:11 PM #37:	ThePrinceFish posted... What issue exists here? That some guy made an unfunny joke? Oh shit someone call the constabulary. Oi! You got a loicense for that youtube account, mate? <cite>Esrac posted [p:931547293] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>ThePrinceFish posted... </cite> <quote>What issue exists here? That some guy made an unfunny joke? Oh shit someone call the constabulary.</quote> Oi! You got a loicense for that youtube account, mate? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:24:23 PM #38:	Esrac posted... Oi! You got a loicense for that youtube account, mate? Yes guvna, noh loicense to wank tho im afraid --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547345] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote> Oi! You got a loicense for that youtube account, mate? </quote> Yes guvna, noh loicense to wank tho im afraid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:24:25 PM #39:	GoodOlJr posted... Free speech existing as an idea You think people being able to say harmless things without the government harassing them is an issue. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931547346] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote> Free speech existing as an idea</quote> You think people being able to say harmless things without the government harassing them is an issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:25:42 PM #40:	Esrac posted... You think people being able to say harmless things without the government harassing them is an issue. Im being sarcastic --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547394] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote> You think people being able to say harmless things without the government harassing them is an issue. </quote> Im being sarcastic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:26:07 PM #41:	GoodOlJr posted... Im being sarcastic My mistake. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931547414] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>Im being sarcastic</quote> My mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 12/13/19 6:26:48 PM #42:	Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...) --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:931547448] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:28:50 PM #43:	Umbreon posted... Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...) Okay so? --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547533] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...) </quote> Okay so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:30:30 PM #44:	Umbreon posted... Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...) I'm not going to say you're dumb, but what you're saying here is really dumb. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931547602] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...)</quote> I'm not going to say you're dumb, but what you're saying here is really dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 12/13/19 6:31:28 PM #45:	Umbreon posted... Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...) He taught a dog to lift its paw in response to a tasteless sentence. He didn't march. He didn't espouse Nazi idealogy. He didn't train the dog to be aggressive towards Jews or literally anyone else. But yeah, let's compare that to pretending like you are a threat to the president. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say 'Golly gee, I can't do that" Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:931547642] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>Oh yes "Free Speech" Go ahead and say you're going to assassinate the president on TV then, tell me what happens. (Or don't, because that's a very foolish idea. But people use "just joking" for death threats as well...)</quote>He taught a dog to lift its paw in response to a tasteless sentence. He didn't march. He didn't espouse Nazi idealogy. He didn't train the dog to be aggressive towards Jews or literally anyone else. But yeah, let's compare that to pretending like you are a threat to the president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 12/13/19 6:31:57 PM #46:	GoodOlJr posted... Okay so? Point is, freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. Should this be a crime? No. Was it stupid? Yeah. Does it bother me to see people get fucked up for doing stupid things? Nope. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:931547665] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>Okay so?</quote> Point is, freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. Should this be a crime? No. Was it stupid? Yeah. Does it bother me to see people get fucked up for doing stupid things? Nope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:32:50 PM #47:	vigorm0rtis posted... Point is, freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. Should this be a crime? No. Was it stupid? Yeah. Does it bother me to see people get fucked up for doing stupid things? Nope. Yes but when the consequences of free speech of censorship of speech, thats not necessarily ideal --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547702] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote> Point is, freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. Should this be a crime? No. Was it stupid? Yeah. Does it bother me to see people get fucked up for doing stupid things? Nope. </quote> Yes but when the consequences of free speech of censorship of speech, thats not necessarily ideal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 12/13/19 6:33:47 PM #48:	He should be hanged <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:931547750] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>He should be hanged </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 12/13/19 6:33:50 PM #49:	GoodOlJr posted... Yes but when the consequences of free speech of censorship of speech, thats not necessarily ideal It's not, but I'll pick up my torch for someone who isn't a moron. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:931547752] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>GoodOlJr posted... </cite> <quote>Yes but when the consequences of free speech of censorship of speech, thats not necessarily ideal</quote> It's not, but I'll pick up my torch for someone who isn't a moron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/13/19 6:34:21 PM #50:	vigorm0rtis posted... Point is, freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. Should this be a crime? No. Was it stupid? Yeah. Does it bother me to see people get fucked up for doing stupid things? Nope. Free speech generally does mean the government can't fuck you up because they don't like the jokes you tell. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931547774] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted... </cite> <quote>Point is, freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. Should this be a crime? No. Was it stupid? Yeah. Does it bother me to see people get fucked up for doing stupid things? Nope.</quote> Free speech generally does mean the government can't fuck you up because they don't like the jokes you tell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 12/13/19 6:36:02 PM #51:	vigorm0rtis posted... It's not, but I'll pick up my torch for someone who isn't a moron. At what point is it okay to cut off someone like alex jones Are you okay if the hydro company says they dont like what he says so they wont power his servers? --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:931547849] in YouTuber w... [t:78252624]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote> It's not, but I'll pick up my torch for someone who isn't a moron. </quote> At what point is it okay to cut off someone like alex jones Are you okay if the hydro company says they dont like what he says so they wont power his servers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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