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Lanzol
11/30/19 9:32:15 PM
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Its almost 2020 and we literally still have feudal lords deciding how we live our lives

Yikes
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butthole666
11/30/19 9:36:02 PM
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I would say most people are, but either do not realize it or straight up think the extremely capitalist hurdles they face are not faults within capitalism but just the way it work
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Master_Bass
11/30/19 9:36:32 PM
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I'm certainly sick of corporations buying our government and running the show.
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PMarth2002
11/30/19 9:37:46 PM
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Lanzol posted...
and we literally still have feudal lords deciding how we live our lives


We do? That's news to me.
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Notti
11/30/19 9:38:51 PM
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coh
11/30/19 9:40:51 PM
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How communists are born

https://i.imgur.com/5UapZDk.jpg
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MarqueeSeries
11/30/19 9:42:45 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
I'm certainly sick of corporations buying our government and running the show.

This for sure

Unfortunately that's a quality inherent to capitalism
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Lanzol
11/30/19 9:48:40 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Lanzol posted...
and we literally still have feudal lords deciding how we live our lives


We do? That's news to me.


I'm sorry you haven't realized it yet
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Lanzol
11/30/19 9:49:29 PM
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coh posted...
How communists are born

https://i.imgur.com/5UapZDk.jpg


I've been living on my own and struggling since I was 17

Capitalism sucks
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K181
11/30/19 9:50:03 PM
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Nah, I'm rich.

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thanosibe
11/30/19 9:55:03 PM
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coh posted...
How communists are born

https://i.imgur.com/5UapZDk.jpg
Lmao :ok_hand:

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Lanzol
11/30/19 10:26:30 PM
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The only thing I have to look forward to in life is saving up for guns and working out

Gotta be a part of the revolution
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Lanzol
11/30/19 10:29:37 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
nope. i very much enjoy my iphone (made possible only through capitalism) and going to bed with a full belly.


Lol

Smart phones were only possible with the help of government funded tech research and with the amount of homebrew development that's been around for the past decade capitalism wouldnt have made a big difference
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pres_madagascar
11/30/19 10:29:40 PM
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MarqueeSeries posted...
This for sure

Unfortunately that's a quality inherent to capitalism
And if you look at the news around the world, you habe half the countries going far right totalitarianism style and sucking the dick of the corporations even harder. You have the other half going ultra leftist and dismantling everything.

The world is in a weird place right now.

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Lanzol
11/30/19 10:31:06 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
nope. i very much enjoy my iphone (made possible only through capitalism) and going to bed with a full belly.

https://youtu.be/7LZXbteaAzI
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AlephZero
11/30/19 10:32:06 PM
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landlords will be first to the gulag once bernie takes over

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pres_madagascar
11/30/19 10:35:37 PM
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AlephZero posted...
landlords will be first to the gulag once bernie takes over
Cool, let out all the people in prison for weed and put all the landlords in them

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Lanzol
11/30/19 10:38:10 PM
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https://youtu.be/rvskMHn0sqQ

AlephZero posted...
landlords will be first to the gulag once bernie takes over


I wanna eat Jeff bezos
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Lanzol
11/30/19 10:43:27 PM
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Capitalism ruined video games
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Paper_Okami
11/30/19 10:47:41 PM
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crapitalism


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Lanzol
11/30/19 10:48:59 PM
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Poor kids killing themselves so u can have a shiny thing: cool, man

Making sure your neighbors family doesn't go bankrupt because he got cancer: ugh these dang snowflakes need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps
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vigorm0rtis
11/30/19 10:49:15 PM
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Meh. Systems don't ruin things, people do. Opportunities to ruin things vary per system.

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Rika_Furude
11/30/19 10:50:46 PM
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It would be fine if less people supported "small government"
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lightwarrior78
11/30/19 10:52:24 PM
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The modern slavery: having to work hard at a job I don't want for a wage I feel I'm beneath when I should get money to shitpost all day.

Sorry, but as a species I don't think we're responsible enough to take away that coercive factor to the world. Without that threat of dying because eating is habit forming, we'd never convince anyone to do a lot of shit work, and I happen to like the garbage is hauled off, all the steps are taken to put food on my table, and keep the lights on among other things. Funny for all the concerns about the poor in the world, no one's asking what job they can do to earn a higher wage, even as they want free medicare, education, infrastructure improvements and more. Lots of work to do in there, but who's volunteering?
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RescueBC
11/30/19 10:58:44 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
The modern slavery: having to work hard at a job I don't want for a wage I feel I'm beneath when I should get money to shitpost all day.

Sorry, but as a species I don't think we're responsible enough to take away that coercive factor to the world. Without that threat of dying because eating is habit forming, we'd never convince anyone to do a lot of shit work, and I happen to like the garbage is hauled off, all the steps are taken to put food on my table, and keep the lights on among other things. Funny for all the concerns about the poor in the world, no one's asking what job they can do to earn a higher wage, even as they want free medicare, education, infrastructure improvements and more. Lots of work to do in there, but who's volunteering?


Ahem...I am.
But I also think we should have universal medicare. You said "free medicare" for some reason but I dont think anyone thinks it'll be free. Just that it'll mostly be cheaper than our current garbage system for most people.
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/01/19 12:21:52 AM
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The hardest but most lucrative job of all would probably be taking the world back from the rich and their governments, but all the boots-trappy types never really seem game for that one.

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Lanzol
12/01/19 12:48:17 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Meh. Systems don't ruin things, people do. Opportunities to ruin things vary per system.


Typical milquetoast response driven by the the demoralizing capitalist machine
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butthole666
12/01/19 4:37:17 AM
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No but srsly talk to any working class average joe about their life and lifestyle and living conditions etc etc without mentioning capitalism explicitly and youll get this overwhelming profile of squalor, dissatisfaction, hardship, and resentment.
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DarthDemented
12/01/19 4:41:56 AM
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I'm sick of randomly exploding asses

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kayoticdreamz
12/01/19 5:08:49 AM
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butthole666 posted...
No but srsly talk to any working class average joe about their life and lifestyle and living conditions etc etc without mentioning capitalism explicitly and youll get this overwhelming profile of squalor, dissatisfaction, hardship, and resentment.
true

but the fundamental problem here is the alternatives proposed are socialism and communism, neither of which are good. Capitalism simply wins because it's been the best thing we've tried and alternatives have far higher death counts than capitalism by miles. And it's not that capitalism is bad so much as it's currently devolved into some insane big government big business hybrid.
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ZeldaMutant
12/01/19 5:57:58 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
but the fundamental problem here is the alternatives proposed are socialism and communism, neither of which are good. Capitalism simply wins because it's been the best thing we've tried and alternatives have far higher death counts than capitalism by miles.
Even the highest estimates have communism killing a total of 100 million people during its existence. Even today, capitalism kills 20 million people each year due to lack of clean water, hunger, and disease. Capitalism has killed more in the 2010s than communism killed during all of its existence. Even if you account for the communist world being much smaller than the capitalist world, capitalism is still the system that kills more. It's a logical consequence of a system that steals from the poor in the 3rd world to enrich the wealthy in the 1st world.
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CADE FOSTER
12/01/19 6:03:19 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
I'm certainly sick of corporations buying our government and running the show.


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Blue_Dream87
12/01/19 6:59:38 AM
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Capitalism sucks and is unsustainable over long periods of time, but neoliberalism is really what enables it to actually destroy lives and nature.

Need to tear this shit down and start over before corporations cook us all alive

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averagejoel
12/01/19 7:04:43 AM
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CloneTheHero posted...
Lanzol posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
nope. i very much enjoy my iphone (made possible only through capitalism) and going to bed with a full belly.


Lol

Smart phones were only possible with the help of government funded tech research and with the amount of homebrew development that's been around for the past decade capitalism wouldnt have made a big difference

the iphone is a commodity, it exists within capitalism, it was made through the capitalist mode of production.

where do you think THIS govt gets their money to fund research? thats right through capitalism.

it was made by workers, who existed in pre-capitalist modes of production and will continue to exist post-capitalism
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_____Cait
12/01/19 7:06:53 AM
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Guys look out socialism is RIGHT BEHIND YOU

oh wait
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averagejoel
12/01/19 1:19:39 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
averagejoel posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
Lanzol posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
nope. i very much enjoy my iphone (made possible only through capitalism) and going to bed with a full belly.


Lol

Smart phones were only possible with the help of government funded tech research and with the amount of homebrew development that's been around for the past decade capitalism wouldnt have made a big difference

the iphone is a commodity, it exists within capitalism, it was made through the capitalist mode of production.

where do you think THIS govt gets their money to fund research? thats right through capitalism.

it was made by workers, who existed in pre-capitalist modes of production and will continue to exist post-capitalism

labor is a part of every society, labor created the parts but the idea, the branding, the commodity, the economic powerhouse that is the apple iphone exists only in a capitalist society.

the iphone could not exist anywhere else

but something functionally very similar could be made in a socialist society

the biggest difference would be that the creation of such goods would be based on human use rather than profit, resulting in less of the planned obsolescence that apple makes so much of their profit from.

so essentially, this hypothetical smartphone in a socialist society would probably be significantly easier to repair, and the necessary replacement parts would probably be available for significantly longer. the charging cables probably wouldn't change arbitrarily either
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/01/19 1:20:29 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
labor is a part of every society, labor created the parts but the idea, the branding, the commodity, the economic powerhouse that is the apple iphone exists only in a capitalist society.

the iphone could not exist anywhere else
Basically, all the shit that sucks about the i-phone is made by capital.

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averagejoel
12/01/19 1:36:26 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
you still havent debunked my argument. the iphone can only exist under capitalism

ok who's your main
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MarqueeSeries
12/01/19 1:37:59 PM
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"Yeah better smartphones might exist, but I was specifically talking about my iphone and I'd rather have that"

Glad that the cream of the intellectual crop is going to bat for capitalism here, I may not be convinced otherwise
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averagejoel
12/01/19 1:38:56 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Basically, all the shit that sucks about the i-phone is made by capital.

yea, well you gotta take the good with the bad.

... no, you literally don't. reread post 40
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averagejoel
12/01/19 1:40:32 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
averagejoel posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
you still havent debunked my argument. the iphone can only exist under capitalism

ok who's your main



gets exposed then claims im an alt.

you guys dont deviate from the book do you?

exposed? you're the one who's trying trolling here
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Austin_Era_II
12/01/19 1:42:13 PM
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Poor people who piss their money on useless junk are to blame. Bad spending habits are to blame.
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