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RonnyCrypto
10/25/19 12:06:16 AM
#256:


ZMythos posted...
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We're literally talking about protecting young children from puberty blockers as if it were some controversial viewpoint.

You really don't understand anything about this, do you?


You think that trans women should be able to compete in sports with women. Your opinion doesn't matter.
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ZMythos
10/25/19 12:08:45 AM
#257:


RonnyCrypto posted...
You think that trans women should be able to compete in sports with women. Your opinion doesn't matter.

My opinions are supported by evidence. Yours are supported by ignorance and rage.
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RonnyCrypto
10/25/19 12:11:53 AM
#258:


ZMythos posted...
RonnyCrypto posted...
You think that trans women should be able to compete in sports with women. Your opinion doesn't matter.

My opinions are supported by evidence. Yours are supported by ignorance and rage.


You're delusional; thankfully, your delusional viewpoints are shared by a very small (but loud) minority.
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ZMythos
10/25/19 12:14:15 AM
#259:


RonnyCrypto posted...
You're delusional; thankfully, your delusional viewpoints are shared by a very small (loud minority).

Let's review:

There's been evidence in this very topic posted that hormone blockers are a safe, reversible method of holding off puberty until the child has matured and made a decision about whether or not they will transition. And that evidence says that these people are more likely to live longer and happier.

And your only response is to "protect them" from "delusional" viewpoints.

Get a fucking hobby.
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RonnyCrypto
10/25/19 12:22:46 AM
#260:


ZMythos posted...
RonnyCrypto posted...
You're delusional; thankfully, your delusional viewpoints are shared by a very small (loud minority).

Let's review:

There's been evidence in this very topic posted that hormone blockers are a safe, reversible method of holding off puberty until the child has matured and made a decision about whether or not they will transition. And that evidence says that these people are more likely to live longer and happier.

And your only response is to "protect them" from "delusional" viewpoints.

Get a fucking hobby.


There are studies that show the opposite. So shut the fuck up.
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ZMythos
10/25/19 12:28:41 AM
#261:


RonnyCrypto posted...
There are studies that show the opposite. So shut the fuck up.

By all means, share them.
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Blue_Dream87
10/25/19 12:58:01 AM
#264:


RonnyCrypto posted...
You're delusional; thankfully, your delusional viewpoints are shared by a very small (but loud) minority.


Thankfully your opinion isn't shared by the actual professionals

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Medzzz
10/25/19 1:01:56 AM
#265:


Is it me or are they getting younger?
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Blue_Dream87
10/25/19 1:04:44 AM
#266:


Medzzz posted...
Is it me or are they getting younger?


I mean kids are hitting puberty younger and younger, and its slowly becoming more acceptable to be trans. Kids have a concept of gender at like, 3, so it's no surprise that they're identifying their gender and are able to transition


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Ilishe
10/25/19 3:20:03 AM
#268:


pls posted...
There is a video of the kid saying "mommy told me I'm a girl" and other things that make it seem like the mom groomed the kid.


Are you serious?

GOD DAMN this makes me so fucking angry.
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D_Fen_Door
10/25/19 3:23:21 AM
#269:


Aaaaand another set of lives ruined.

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Kaliesto
10/25/19 7:59:56 AM
#270:


viewmaster_pi posted...
I heard the mom did some pretty fucked up shit to groom the kid, like saying there was a monster that only ate little boys, not girls, and refusing to be affectionate or give him attention unless he was in girl clothes.

Needless to say, doing anything but letting this kid be a kid is child abuse. I'm rooting for the dad.


I don't know if we're going to get the truth from this, it is possible the CPS agents were also being manipulated and don't know what really goes on in the household.

Its either the Father or Mother, this case is fucked up all-around.

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pls
10/25/19 2:02:52 PM
#271:


The judge has awarded 50/50 custody. This means both parents need to agree on any treatment to stop puberty or to transition.

God bless. The mother is off her rocker.
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OctilIery
10/25/19 2:07:40 PM
#272:


pls posted...
The judge has awarded 50/50 custody. This means both parents need to agree on any treatment to stop puberty or to transition.

God bless. The mother is off her rocker.

Nope.
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gunplagirl
10/25/19 2:34:51 PM
#273:


OctilIery posted...
pls posted...
The judge has awarded 50/50 custody. This means both parents need to agree on any treatment to stop puberty or to transition.

God bless. The mother is off her rocker.

Nope.


This, a transphobic father like this would prefer a dead son over a happy, living trans daughter. Honestly the best case scenario is the mother takes the kid out of state and lets her daughter transition safely.
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pls
10/25/19 2:39:37 PM
#274:


Who the fuck keeps posting?
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gunplagirl
10/25/19 2:49:07 PM
#276:


Hairistotle posted...
uh this is fine why the hell you guys always melting down about unimportant shit


Because they dislike that trangender people exist and are being given some degree of recognition.
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OctilIery
10/25/19 2:56:26 PM
#277:


gunplagirl posted...
Hairistotle posted...
uh this is fine why the hell you guys always melting down about unimportant shit


Because they dislike that trangender people exist and are being given some degree of recognition.

Yup. They would literally shit on the kid for transitioning regardless of age.
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CyricZ
10/25/19 3:05:29 PM
#279:


pls posted...
Who the fuck keeps posting?
All the trans people you've blocked.

Like all of them.

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gunplagirl
10/25/19 3:09:16 PM
#281:


Conflict posted...
This whole thing is definitely not black-and-white. Transgender people should go through the process earlier to avoid distress through adolescent years, but based on what people ITT are saying about the effects of stopping puberty blockers, you also seem to run a pretty big risk on people who decide to change their mind


There's not a risk, they'll start puberty later than some of their peers. For ones like this who would start blockers around 8 or 9, that means 2+ years of extra waiting to see if her identity holds true, and the earliest she could start hormones in Europe is 13. It's usually 15-16 in the US. That means double her current age. And if she's not trans and actually a boy? Take him off blockers and within a few months if he's 14+ at the time he'd start puberty. Maybe not even months provided he's of an appropriate weight. Seriously, the effects are only an issue IF on them past the outermost ranges for the onset of later puberty.
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hockeybub89
10/25/19 3:14:19 PM
#282:


pls posted...
The judge has awarded 50/50 custody. This means both parents need to agree on any treatment to stop puberty or to transition.

God bless. The mother is off her rocker.

Well I hope the father doesn't refuse treatment if the doctors recommend it.
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Tmaster148
10/25/19 3:16:39 PM
#283:


CyricZ posted...
pls posted...
Who the fuck keeps posting?
All the trans people you've blocked.

Like all of them.


For someone who blocks people he always gets upset when they post despite not seeing their post.
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Dark_SilverX
10/25/19 3:18:40 PM
#284:


Poor dad :/
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pls
10/25/19 3:20:53 PM
#285:


CyricZ posted...
pls posted...
Who the fuck keeps posting?
All the trans people you've blocked.

Like all of them.


You mean gunplagirl? Literally a revolutionary communist who has been seen to defend and support political violence? And to support Mao and Stalin?
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gunplagirl
10/25/19 4:02:04 PM
#287:


Hear that, folks? I'm a revolutionary. Follow me and we'll uh... Go to the store and get some nacho cheese Doritos!
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andel
10/25/19 4:02:51 PM
#288:


pls posted...
CyricZ posted...
pls posted...
Who the fuck keeps posting?
All the trans people you've blocked.

Like all of them.


You mean gunplagirl? Literally a revolutionary communist who has been seen to defend and support political violence? And to support Mao and Stalin?


does gunpla really support mao and stalin or is that just fanfiction?
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Kaliesto
10/25/19 4:08:11 PM
#289:


That really sounds like a troll lie, I never seen anyone on these boards to support Mao or Stalin.

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Tmaster148
10/25/19 4:08:12 PM
#290:


andel posted...
pls posted...
CyricZ posted...
pls posted...
Who the fuck keeps posting?
All the trans people you've blocked.

Like all of them.


You mean gunplagirl? Literally a revolutionary communist who has been seen to defend and support political violence? And to support Mao and Stalin?


does gunpla really support mao and stalin or is that just fanfiction?


It's Proudclad. Pretty much everything he says is made up.
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OctilIery
10/25/19 4:30:33 PM
#291:


Dark_SilverX posted...
Poor dad :/

Oh yes, the bigot suffers so much.
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NonDairyMiltank
10/25/19 7:52:48 PM
#292:


uhhh if you support the mom's decision to transition the kid and haven't been keeping up on this story, you're in for some disappointment...

a judge on Thursday already ruled the decision will require joint consent from BOTH parents now
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gunplagirl
10/25/19 8:07:55 PM
#293:


NonDairyMiltank posted...
uhhh if you support the mom's decision to transition the kid and haven't been keeping up on this story, you're in for some disappointment...

a judge on Thursday already ruled the decision will require joint consent from BOTH parents now


So basically, the law says it's perfectly fine to torment the kid because of her transphobic father.
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Blue_Dream87
10/25/19 9:14:34 PM
#294:


gunplagirl posted...
So basically, the law says it's perfectly fine to torment the kid because of her transphobic father.


Ya this is some bullshit. So if one parent is an anti-vaxxer, they can block their child from being vaccinated? Or if one is against blood transfusions for whatev reason, the child is denied a life saving procedure? Shit sets down some bad precedents

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RickyTheBAWSE
10/25/19 9:21:05 PM
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evil_zombie11
10/25/19 9:21:15 PM
#296:


Fair, next.
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gunplagirl
10/25/19 9:27:38 PM
#297:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
So basically, the law says it's perfectly fine to torment the kid because of her transphobic father.


Ya this is some bullshit. So if one parent is an anti-vaxxer, they can block their child from being vaccinated? Or if one is against blood transfusions for whatev reason, the child is denied a life saving procedure? Shit sets down some bad precedents


The anti vaxxer example has happened for kids. :/
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_Matchabuu_
10/25/19 9:30:25 PM
#298:


gunplagirl posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
And here come a lot of people who think he should be evaluated and maybe given puberty blockers is the same as transitioning because TC lied to them and they didnt feel like reading.


Cis people rarely understand anything about trans people or transitioning. That's why they still joke about shit like "John clocks out on Friday and comes back Monday as Joann, vagina and implants and everything" and shitty stereotypes that aren't even remotely possible.


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the_rowan
10/25/19 9:38:21 PM
#299:


Entire topic can be summed up as, "Fuck those psychologists and professionals who study the matter, my emotions dictate reality!"
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gunplagirl
10/25/19 11:59:16 PM
#300:


Horrible news, Texan government bigots at the state level are doing a couple fucked up things

1) they're ordering several agencies to investigate the mother
2) they're going to start proposing legislation to ban this
3) they're going to propose adding in "letting minors transition" as a form of child abuse

Basically? The revolution can't come soon enough to oust these bigots from power.
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joe40001
10/26/19 1:43:15 AM
#302:


Tyranthraxus posted...
There's no real harm in going on puberty blockers to give kids more time to make a decision. The results of transgendered adults who had properly supportive parents at a young age are pretty amazing not just in looks but also mental wellbeing.


I can't imagine puberty blockers has 0 effect on the development of a body long term
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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/26/19 1:49:52 AM
#303:


Wasnt there a video just released of the kid being asked why do you think you are a girl? And he responds cause mommy tells me I am
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RyuVegas
10/26/19 5:42:46 AM
#304:


Captain_Qwark posted...
I feel like I'm in a fucking simulated world where the creators are like "what's the dumbest fucking insane shit we can get people to rally behind"

Holy shit you just quoted Bridget Phetasy from Joe Rogan directly. I was literally just watching this episode and cant believe someone else was watching too.

I dont like the tribalism that has developed in this country. Its regressing(but I dont mean this R-word, I mean the actual offensive term, you fuckers) real human evolutionary progress all for the sake of being on the right side of history or being on the winning team or whatever cockamamie you want to call it.

Its bullshit and were letting our countries ideals erode because of the tribalism going on.
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The_Scarecrow
10/26/19 7:02:21 AM
#305:


Hm, dont some of you people get tired of throwing around the term transphobic? It doesnt help your argument at all by resorting to petty jabs. Also, stop using so many logical fallacies. Ive been counting so many ITT that it is starting to become ridiculous. Im not going to call anyone out but certain users entire arguments are based off of either one or multiple logical fallacies.

Oh, and generalizing by saying really dumb statements like Cis people dont understand blah blah blah makes you just as bad as the transphobic people youre claiming to be fighting against. I personally dont think the father or many of the users here are transphobic. They just want what is best for the child. You can disagree with that without resorting to what a teenager would do if theyre losing an argument. Just say I disagree and state your explanation. Its not rocket science.

Were all adults here. Theres no need to act like children. If you feel like someone is being disrespectful, then try being the better person rather than bringing yourself to their level. I am addressing both sides of the argument. However, some users are going about it a little worse than others.

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